bandtrace, very cool. I was wondering if there were any interesting projects with MB and neo4j. I guess I've got my answer.
2014-02-15 04624, 2014
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nikki hates twitter and their inability to do anything about all the spam
2014-02-15 04654, 2014
bandtrace
Thanks @CallerNo6!
2014-02-15 04609, 2014
bandtrace
I especially like neo4j for the ability to query the graph very quickly. We have a concept called "connected artists" that is extremely easy to query for.
2014-02-15 04619, 2014
bandtrace
This is what the connected artist query looks like:
so, all bands that dave grohl is a member of is the first part of the query. the second part is to find all members of bands that dave grohl is a member of
2014-02-15 04618, 2014
nikki
huh cool
2014-02-15 04620, 2014
CallerNo6
So of course, I go right to Pigface
2014-02-15 04627, 2014
bandtrace
therefore - dave grohl is a "connected artist" with Kurt Cobain since they were both members of the band Nirvana
2014-02-15 04615, 2014
CallerNo6 wonders if there's a trade-off. That is, for a browse-only site, are there also things that are more difficult to do in neo4j than they would be in postgres?
2014-02-15 04646, 2014
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bandtrace
Yes, a few things - there is no replication support
2014-02-15 04624, 2014
bandtrace
No foreign key constraints
2014-02-15 04649, 2014
bandtrace
But, constraints on a node level so that you can verify that you relate to an existing node
2014-02-15 04634, 2014
bandtrace
Less support for indexes
2014-02-15 04604, 2014
bandtrace
But, one index per "type" (and each "node" can be of many types)
2014-02-15 04628, 2014
bandtrace
The big plus is the query language called Cypher. And that domain modelling is extremely easy.
2014-02-15 04629, 2014
CallerNo6
Cool. That'll give me something to think about for a while.
2014-02-15 04600, 2014
bandtrace
Oh, and one more thing - since Neo4j is a NoSQL database it is schema less so it is extremely flexible and easy to work with.
2014-02-15 04635, 2014
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reosarevok
SultS: I have the EMBL with me today - any idea what to check to see if those orchestras are the same?
2014-02-15 04631, 2014
reosarevok
For example, could you tell me which players in the orchestra you had matched the ones in the orchestra website? :)
2014-02-15 04644, 2014
SultS
lemme check :)
2014-02-15 04601, 2014
SultS
reosarevok: comparing with http://tko.ee/orkester/, only Harry Traksmann, Martti Mägi and Leho Karin match
2014-02-15 04637, 2014
reosarevok
Hmm
2014-02-15 04647, 2014
reosarevok
This says Leho Karin has played in TKO from 93
2014-02-15 04615, 2014
reosarevok
Same for Mägi
2014-02-15 04639, 2014
reosarevok
It'd be surprising if they played two different orchestras of so similar a name at the same time :)
2014-02-15 04636, 2014
SultS
but any guesses, why would it be named differently on my release?
2014-02-15 04602, 2014
reosarevok
Well, dunno
2014-02-15 04609, 2014
reosarevok
It is ran by the Tallinna Filharmoonia
2014-02-15 04619, 2014
reosarevok
Maybe they thought it was a more clear name in English?
2014-02-15 04624, 2014
reosarevok
"Pildil esineb ses kirikus Tallinna Filharmoonia kammerorkester - seesama, millele kultuuriminister Rein Lang keeldus raha andmast"
I see that the wiki has Annual reports for previous years but not for 2013, is it being written?
2014-02-15 04606, 2014
nikki
yes, we're usually not very fast at doing them :/
2014-02-15 04605, 2014
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nikki
navap: weren't you working on that?
2014-02-15 04658, 2014
dufferzafar
hey nikki, another question: am I free to code the site's (picard) back-end in php?
2014-02-15 04657, 2014
nikki
it's not up to me, I suspect python would be preferred though
2014-02-15 04614, 2014
nikki wonders if ruaok is actually around
2014-02-15 04642, 2014
bitmap
well, my impression is that we have more devs in the community partial to/familiar with python than php, so that would at least ensure we have plenty of maintainers post-gsoc :)
2014-02-15 04620, 2014
dufferzafar
yeah, that makes sense..
2014-02-15 04657, 2014
dufferzafar
I can use ptyhon web frameworks django/flask ?
2014-02-15 04658, 2014
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nikki
I imagine flask would be perfectly acceptable, I know there are a couple of side projects using that. no idea about django
2014-02-15 04647, 2014
dufferzafar
then flask it is...
2014-02-15 04637, 2014
derwin
yeah flask is what other folks in the "ecosystem" are using hehe
" (It's not surprising that people get their information about FRBR from the diagrams, rather than the text. There are three very simple diagrams in the document, and 142 pages of text. Yet even if a picture is worth a thousand words, those three are not equal to the text.)"
2014-02-15 04623, 2014
ianmcorvidae
reosarevok: I linked that last night :P
2014-02-15 04632, 2014
reosarevok
heh
2014-02-15 04640, 2014
CallerNo6
valentines day and people are thinking of me!
2014-02-15 04600, 2014
CallerNo6
valentines day-ish, anyway
2014-02-15 04602, 2014
reosarevok
Sorry, I was fighting my lappy to install xubuntu yesterday :p
2014-02-15 04618, 2014
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CallerNo6 sheepishly admits to not having read the full 142 page doc
2014-02-15 04637, 2014
reosarevok
Neither have I
2014-02-15 04640, 2014
CallerNo6
I hope her "very long and very detailed analysis" isn't even longer.
2014-02-15 04625, 2014
CallerNo6
Alternately, I hope it has more than three pictures.
