if we remove disc IDs, but maintain a mapping of them to TOCs, what are we removing then?
2013-09-25 26824, 2013
nikki
all the hassle of maintaining medium-disc id mappings
2013-09-25 26837, 2013
JonnyJD
a TOC is attached to a release. A disc ID is only an identifier for the TOC
2013-09-25 26804, 2013
nikki
yes, and I'm saying we can break that connection and just have the table containing the tocs without it being linked to mediums
2013-09-25 26808, 2013
JonnyJD
so you would remove the TOC from the releases?
2013-09-25 26846, 2013
JonnyJD
what purpose do the TOCs have then, when they are not attached to anything. How would you search for releases "by disc"?
2013-09-25 26839, 2013
nikki
if we were to replace lookup by disc id with lookup based on track times (which was one of the suggestions), then it breaks for anyone who looks up using only the disc id, since we don't have the toc to get the track times. if we have a list of discid/tocs, we can convert the disc id back to the toc without the program having to be changed
2013-09-25 26859, 2013
JonnyJD
nikki: lookup by track times = lookup by TOC
2013-09-25 26809, 2013
nikki
no
2013-09-25 26815, 2013
nikki
a release can have track times and no toc
2013-09-25 26817, 2013
JonnyJD
Otherwise we would have to create a new release (with different track times) for every pressing
2013-09-25 26825, 2013
nikki
and that's not how the fuzzy lookup works
2013-09-25 26845, 2013
JonnyJD
yes, but the fuzzy lookup isn't really that good
2013-09-25 26803, 2013
JonnyJD
what we would need to replace lookup by disc ID is a non-fuzzy lookup by TOC
2013-09-25 26844, 2013
JonnyJD
with disc IDs we have multiple results. With fuzzy lookup we have even more.
2013-09-25 26825, 2013
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2013-09-25 26814, 2013
nikki
ocharles: editing the values is an auto-edit, which it shouldn't be unless the user is an auto-editor
2013-09-25 26817, 2013
nikki
ocharles: removing stuff is also an auto-edit
2013-09-25 26817, 2013
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2013-09-25 26800, 2013
nikki
ocharles: also have you added stats for it at all?
2013-09-25 26851, 2013
ocharles
no, no stats
2013-09-25 26801, 2013
ocharles
I feel that could also come later
2013-09-25 26816, 2013
nikki
it's harder to backfill stats though :/
2013-09-25 26819, 2013
ocharles
it is
2013-09-25 26824, 2013
ocharles
if you'd like stats with this, then I can do that
2013-09-25 26827, 2013
ocharles
it just risks delaying this
2013-09-25 26833, 2013
ocharles
i agree, it does seem worth delaying it for that though
2013-09-25 26805, 2013
nikki
it'd be nice to at least try and get it done
2013-09-25 26810, 2013
nikki
could also see what ian says when he reappears
2013-09-25 26819, 2013
nikki
afaik he's still in the air somewhere though
2013-09-25 26826, 2013
Mineo
ianmcorvidae, nikki: remember telling me that openstreetmap has more data for some parts of germany than the whole continent of africa? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/… really makes me think there're some mad people responsible for that
2013-09-25 26857, 2013
nikki
hehe
2013-09-25 26806, 2013
nikki
I like how well defined the coastlines are
2013-09-25 26822, 2013
nikki
(well, most of them)
2013-09-25 26858, 2013
Mineo
well, what's better than a romantic walk on a beach?
2013-09-25 26801, 2013
Mineo
with a gps tracker.
2013-09-25 26850, 2013
nikki
haha
2013-09-25 26814, 2013
nikki
I suppose that only works if both people are geeky enough or the gps tracker is a secret :P
2013-09-25 26803, 2013
nikki
easier to do these days I suppose, with phones having gps and stuff
nikki: I checked the code an the fuzzy lookup of the FreeDB gateway does work without TOCs, but the "primary" track times. It does include completely unrelated releases in the results, though.
2013-09-25 26828, 2013
nikki
maybe I should make it worse and contribute my stash of tracks :P
ruaok pops some hippo shaving contexts off his stack
2013-09-25 26805, 2013
kepstin-work finds it amusing how he gets redirected to https://www.spotify.com/int/why-not-available/ on Spotify, which has the title "Why is Spotify not available in my country?", but then doesn't bother to answer that question.
2013-09-25 26802, 2013
ruaok
warp: so those receipts are already paid and just for my record, right?
