#musicbrainz-devel

does wolfram alpha use musicbrainz data?

"powered by exclusive, proprietary sources of "curated data""

yep

see sources at the bottom.

they are properly crediting us, but I think there ought to be some support

interesting.

presumably they're just using the CC0 data dumps

they also don't have *all* of the data included

that doesn't change the fact that they ought to open their wallets and support us.

very limited coverage, in fact. It's almost as if they're manually importing data by having people read the musicbrainz site...

no.

there is a fellow from wolfram who was asking about your upcoming schema change

http://products.wolframalpha.com/partnerships/ seems to be the place to start if you want to get your data into musicbrainz, but no idea where you'd go if your data is already there :)

into wolfram*

well, I have the email address of one of their people. I'll start there.

man svn seems so strange and foreign to me now

when are we going to move the rest of our svn stuff? :P

I'm ready for that to happen.

but its kinda up to the people who do the maintaining of that cod

So, nobody, in most cases :p

looks like wolfram is getting album art from wikipedia, we should try to interest them in using the cover art archive ;)

(and ijabz in a few :) )

hi ijabz!

I'm trying to compile the new search stuff, but its failing on tests.

I updated mmd-schema and did mvn clean ; mvn package ; mvn install

hangon

then in search server I did the same and the tests are failing.

did you do mvm install on mmd-schema ?

yes

I'll do it again, just in case.

did you do mvm clean on search-server before mvn package ?

wait, operator error. one sec.

now doing clean ; package on the search server.

also, I just got done installing a tiny 5 port gig switch.

and its only for search index traffic.

so, we should be able to push search indexes much faster now.

great

is warp of ijabz responsible for that?

nikki, its kind of entered a black hole

murdos has written the updater code, warp deals with deploying it

I don't actuyally know anything about the updater

but I ma going to try and set it up on my home server now that I have one

warp: prod

build successful. :)

moin

moin

ruaok: did you get my email re: the music biz conference thing?

I did.

do you need an immediate answer?

well, they pestered me again about it, but other than that I don't think it matters

(it just means the info goes up later)

ruaok: so nothing for me to respond to for an hour or so I guess whilst the indexes build ?

ok, I can answer in a few.

ijabz: appears so, yes.

well, unless you want to talk about moving out of svn :p

reosarevok: sure we can talk, why has that just come up ?

Well, they were talking about moving the rest of svn

(they being nikki_ and ruaok)

Actually I would like mmd-schema to be moved to git, I asked ocharles about this some time ago

Thats the only part of search that coredevs contribute to would allow me to see how git/bitbucket works with my workflow

Then the inevitable move for search-server would be simpler, how thats sound ?

sounds like a great first step.

perhaps you could prod someone to do it

I want to do that, but everyone has heaps of stuff to do with the schema change

Who was it who did the last svn-to-git thing?

IIRC it wasn't a core dev

Unless it was luks maybe?

leftmost might be interested in doing that.

Yeah, although he does have a ticket

no massive rush, just pencil it in for after schema chnages

might be safer to do it that way actually, as schema changes will rehires changes to mmd-schema

I did the last one AFAIK

for adhawkins

see the description on https://github.com/ianmcorvidae/libmusicbrainz

(for what I did)

more normal setups shouldn't be as complex

recording index at 8%

ianmcorvidae: want me to write you a bio?

ruaok: hah

well, sure

what uni did you attend again?

Amherst?

k

BS in CS?

just to really drive home the hippie part of "metadata hippie" I guess

lol

BA in something approximating CS because hampshire doesn't have majors

k

In his formative hippie years Ian McEwen attended Hampshire College?. after graduation he doubled down on his committment to being a hippie and dedicated himself to the mission of improving music metadata via metadata hippie incantations.

feh. where did that ? come from?

ruaok: "But he still showers reasonably often"

once a month, even if its not necessary.

yay, already a response from wolfram. they want to feed data back to us. :-D

ianmcorvidae: my attempt at a bio sent. I may have not actually used the term hippie.

I'm still surprised how much people like the term "metadata hippie"

I don't like it because I want to think we won't get boring and watered down after a decade or so :p

silly reosarevok, ekte hippier dør ikke

de bare tar en trip

HSOWA: at a couple of conferences I called us metadata hippies. musicbrainz in general.

hmm. probably that doesn't work as good in english

Anyone able to answer a question for me?

like hippies our ideals are somewhat unclear to the mainstream

HSOWA: I think it means people who tend to have long or unusual hair, dress funny, and have an interest in sharing music metadata freely with others/

ruaok: sounds awesome to me :D

S1RC: only if you ask the question!

my mother was a genuine hippie so yea

HSOWA: :)

kepstin-work: :D

maybe i can get weird hair soon

I set up a mirror server for my Headphones to check, but it still gives me a blacklisted error on api requests. Can I fix that in the server somewhere?

S1RC: that probably just means that you haven't reconfigured your headphones to point at the mirror server; it's still trying to access our main server.

S1RC: or that you haven't installed the search server locally.

if you haven't searches are still being carried out by our servers, which are rate limited.

It's definitely on custom, pointed at the ip:port of the VM.

does headphones use search queries?

not sure.

geordi oauth login: <3