#musicbrainz-devel

reosarevok: add a wiki page (project by language) and then make a blog post about it?

heh

Python: "fix headphones"

heh

I think it would be interesting to have all MB related/using projects listed somewhere.

Incl. stuff like XBMC and morituri.

I like all this enthusiastic volunteering!

lol reosarevok

We should make it as a Twine game :p

(choose-your-own-adventure stuff: "You arrive at the Hall of MB-Related Development. Here you see many doors, which one you choose?"

- "The green one which says Python!" "The heavy one which says Java!"

... ok, ok, maybe not)

Freso: Just put a link here when you put a page in the wiki, I'll see what I can add later.

I am going to bed early today, not feeling well or something.

JonnyJD: Still around though?

JonnyJD: We should merge our PKGBUILD repositories and just both have push rights to it. :p

warp: I didn't see your response.

Do Picard plugins need to be executable?

ruaok: I'm still writing it.

ah

meh. bitbucket is being slow / nonresponsive from here but isup.me says it's up.

Freso: no they don't. The permissions are fine. Using cp is only a problem when there is a weird umask.

But since one of the big TUs asks me to change the PKGBUILD and they won't accept my merge request -> I'll have to use install.

JonnyJD: Don't worry.

JonnyJD: I'm rewriting with install for you right now.

:)

That's what I thought.

Can you use install without specifying the source AND destination name?

Yes and no.

I'll push the change now.

you can, but then you can't create the directory then?

I was thinking about install vs. cp some time ago and there was some quirk with install. (And I also don't have a clue why everybody hates mkdir)

It's the exact same amount of calls as before.

ah, there is a "-t" switch

I still have no clue why mkdir is bad, but I'll merge it. Thanks.

I'm using `install` in all my packages already.

There is this about install vs. cp: http://en.chys.info/2009/05/install-vs-cp-and-m...

but I don't see how that effects non-binary non-library files.

Also, it shouldn't affect the pseudo-sandboxed package()-ing.

Since no other programs should be messing with $pkgdir.

Yes, that too.

The only idea I had about it was when the packager has a weird umask set

So the issue should only be when going from $pkgdir to the actual filesystem proper.

as for the push rights: pull requests work fine (especially when using the "hub" command) and we have to "burp" the package ourselves anyways (as package owner)

JonnyJD: I was thinking more instead of us having the other's PKGBUILD repos cloned in addition to our own. :p

JonnyJD: Oh, you should probably test the package before you burp it.

I don't have Picard installed on this machine.

So I didn't actually test it yet.

>_>

I don't know what could go wrong, but...

that's why I took so long ;-)

of course I tested building and startet picard

:D

*started

I was particularly uncertain about the -T flag. Don't think I've ever used that before.

I think the -T flag doesn't make any difference in this case

Probably not. :D

I think it's maybe for copying directories? Maybe.

>_>

Well, it would make sure there is not already a directory named "destination"

Freso: You are now a collab on my PKGBUILD repo

:p

Yes, you have opened "most" of the pull requests :-P

I didn't make the repo public the last 5 years or so..

well, I could just rebase that ;-)

Psh.

and I DO have a mirror of the repo. of course. (and a backup of that mirror that won't accept rebases and stuff)

(apart from the simple fact that everybody has a local clone anyways)

But I would be happy if you don't break stuff anyways :-)

For when github is down: http://git.kraehen.org/

When GH's down, I still have the local copy. :)

(Man, I love DVCS's!)

...

And it's almost midnight.

G'night!

Yes, but you can't just tell people to clone your local copy

and he is gone..

ianmcorvidae: ping

thats your old neighborhood, right reosarevok ?

It is

What do they want?

to pay us for commercial access to the WS. :)

huh

and I'll pick his brain about how do be a freelancer in Spain.

Interesting

I just learned that Hacienda refers to the tax authority. :)

pong, though I may be heading back out shortly

reosarevok: I never head about the 280E minimum. I can get private health insurance for less than that.

about 170€

ruaok: that's not only healthcare, it includes also retirement pension shit

ianmcorvidae: did you make any changes to when backups run?

I just went to change backup disks and the disk was busy.

ruaok: and is mandatory IIRC

reosarevok: ah, ok.

ruaok: I didn't as far as I know

weird. I wonder if its a time change thing.

ruaok: I did add teto to the list, and I don't really understand that system well

reosarevok: well, I *think* spanish taxes == US taxes & stoopid health insurance premiums.

if you do you might check and see that everything looks correct re: the setup

ruaok: that's the minimum, mind - in theory if you earn more, you can select a higher tier and get a bigger pension when you retire. But I suspect pretty much everything else would be a better idea.

ruaok: especially since I don't even expect there'll be any money left to pay pensions when you eventually retire, even if you're still in ES :D

ianmcorvidae: lets look at this tomorrow.

reosarevok: I think that is the same all over the world.

as it stands I am not counting on any of the social security I paid living here.

and that has been quite a bit.

Mind, private retirement plans in Spain are similarly bad

I honestly don't know if there's any good option

Apart from dying before you're 67 and avoiding all the mess

I don't expect anyone to look after me when I am old.

given how much I've been poisoined here in this country, I'd be suprised if I live beyond that. :0

been poisoned he says

All due to others

lol

that is the least of my worries. that is a concious decisions.

-s

the gargbage sold here as "food" is em, industrial by-products for the most part.

heh

Yeah, well, I don't have any idea what the meat in the meaty stuff I eat actually is

horsemeat. :)

Well, I trust the market stalls to sell pork when they say it is pork

But yeah, the stuff in meatballs and the like, god knows

Horsemeat? dude, horses are kinda expensive

Compared to rats and the like, at least :p

lol.

Anyway, I don't particularly care about *what animal* the meat comes from, as much as how much shit that animal has been fed :p

lol, srsly.

I'm not going to feel sadder if it turns out to be a cat, as long as it is a cat that hasn't been eating heavy metals :p

(I guess that's trickier for religious people or whatever)

Oooh, you're almost funded :)

yeah.

we expect to cross the threshold this evening.

Nice

wall street journal asia filmed an interview yesterday.

we hope that will come out before it closes. might be a nice boost.

ok, going to let someone test drive my car. might be sold soon.

feeling very real all of the sudden.