#musicbrainz-devel

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      • JonnyJD
        reosarevok: add a wiki page (project by language) and then make a blog post about it?
      • 2013-03-13 07218, 2013

      • reosarevok
        heh
      • 2013-03-13 07223, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Python: "fix headphones"
      • 2013-03-13 07229, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        heh
      • 2013-03-13 07209, 2013

      • Freso
        I think it would be interesting to have all MB related/using projects listed somewhere.
      • 2013-03-13 07221, 2013

      • Freso
        Incl. stuff like XBMC and morituri.
      • 2013-03-13 07225, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I like all this enthusiastic volunteering!
      • 2013-03-13 07244, 2013

      • warp
        lol reosarevok
      • 2013-03-13 07249, 2013

      • Freso
        reosarevok: I just wrote a good starting-point for Python related stuff. ;)
      • 2013-03-13 07216, 2013

      • reosarevok
        We should make it as a Twine game :p
      • 2013-03-13 07230, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (choose-your-own-adventure stuff: "You arrive at the Hall of MB-Related Development. Here you see many doors, which one you choose?"
      • 2013-03-13 07258, 2013

      • reosarevok
        - "The green one which says Python!" "The heavy one which says Java!"
      • 2013-03-13 07205, 2013

      • reosarevok
        ... ok, ok, maybe not)
      • 2013-03-13 07238, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        Freso: Just put a link here when you put a page in the wiki, I'll see what I can add later.
      • 2013-03-13 07254, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        I am going to bed early today, not feeling well or something.
      • 2013-03-13 07243, 2013

      • Freso
        JonnyJD: Still around though?
      • 2013-03-13 07257, 2013

      • Freso
        JonnyJD: We should merge our PKGBUILD repositories and just both have push rights to it. :p
      • 2013-03-13 07208, 2013

      • Freso goes to fix one of JonnyJD's PKGBUILDs
      • 2013-03-13 07222, 2013

      • ruaok
        warp: I didn't see your response.
      • 2013-03-13 07238, 2013

      • Freso
        Do Picard plugins need to be executable?
      • 2013-03-13 07208, 2013

      • warp
        ruaok: I'm still writing it.
      • 2013-03-13 07217, 2013

      • ruaok
        ah
      • 2013-03-13 07210, 2013

      • warp
        meh. bitbucket is being slow / nonresponsive from here but isup.me says it's up.
      • 2013-03-13 07224, 2013

      • warp pokes his internet connection
      • 2013-03-13 07249, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        Freso: no they don't. The permissions are fine. Using cp is only a problem when there is a weird umask.
      • 2013-03-13 07251, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        But since one of the big TUs asks me to change the PKGBUILD and they won't accept my merge request -> I'll have to use install.
      • 2013-03-13 07205, 2013

      • Freso
        JonnyJD: Don't worry.
      • 2013-03-13 07215, 2013

      • Freso
        JonnyJD: I'm rewriting with install for you right now.
      • 2013-03-13 07227, 2013

      • Freso
        :)
      • 2013-03-13 07238, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        That's what I thought.
      • 2013-03-13 07203, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        Can you use install without specifying the source AND destination name?
      • 2013-03-13 07217, 2013

      • Freso
        Yes and no.
      • 2013-03-13 07226, 2013

      • Freso
        I'll push the change now.
      • 2013-03-13 07236, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        you can, but then you can't create the directory then?
      • 2013-03-13 07229, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        I was thinking about install vs. cp some time ago and there was some quirk with install. (And I also don't have a clue why everybody hates mkdir)
      • 2013-03-13 07207, 2013

      • Freso
        It's the exact same amount of calls as before.
      • 2013-03-13 07229, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        ah, there is a "-t" switch
      • 2013-03-13 07257, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        I still have no clue why mkdir is bad, but I'll merge it. Thanks.
      • 2013-03-13 07202, 2013

      • Freso
        I'm using `install` in all my packages already.
      • 2013-03-13 07219, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        There is this about install vs. cp: http://en.chys.info/2009/05/install-vs-cp-and-mma…
      • 2013-03-13 07205, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        but I don't see how that effects non-binary non-library files.
      • 2013-03-13 07213, 2013

      • Freso
        Also, it shouldn't affect the pseudo-sandboxed package()-ing.
      • 2013-03-13 07236, 2013

      • Freso
        Since no other programs should be messing with $pkgdir.
      • 2013-03-13 07238, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        Yes, that too.
      • 2013-03-13 07256, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        The only idea I had about it was when the packager has a weird umask set
      • 2013-03-13 07200, 2013

      • Freso
        So the issue should only be when going from $pkgdir to the actual filesystem proper.
      • 2013-03-13 07248, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        as for the push rights: pull requests work fine (especially when using the "hub" command) and we have to "burp" the package ourselves anyways (as package owner)
      • 2013-03-13 07223, 2013

      • Freso
        JonnyJD: I was thinking more instead of us having the other's PKGBUILD repos cloned in addition to our own. :p
      • 2013-03-13 07245, 2013

      • Freso
        JonnyJD: Oh, you should probably test the package before you burp it.
      • 2013-03-13 07253, 2013

      • Freso
        I don't have Picard installed on this machine.
      • 2013-03-13 07200, 2013

      • Freso
        So I didn't actually test it yet.
      • 2013-03-13 07202, 2013

      • Freso
        >_>
      • 2013-03-13 07218, 2013

      • Freso
        I don't know what could go wrong, but...
      • 2013-03-13 07225, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        that's why I took so long ;-)
      • 2013-03-13 07235, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        of course I tested building and startet picard
      • 2013-03-13 07237, 2013

      • Freso
        :D
      • 2013-03-13 07243, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        *started
      • 2013-03-13 07201, 2013

      • Freso
        I was particularly uncertain about the -T flag. Don't think I've ever used that before.
      • 2013-03-13 07203, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        I think the -T flag doesn't make any difference in this case
      • 2013-03-13 07220, 2013

      • Freso
        Probably not. :D
      • 2013-03-13 07241, 2013

      • Freso
        I think it's maybe for copying directories? Maybe.
      • 2013-03-13 07207, 2013

      • Freso
      • 2013-03-13 07209, 2013

      • Freso
        >_>
      • 2013-03-13 07212, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        Well, it would make sure there is not already a directory named "destination"
      • 2013-03-13 07253, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        Freso: You are now a collab on my PKGBUILD repo
      • 2013-03-13 07258, 2013

      • Freso
        :p
      • 2013-03-13 07220, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        Yes, you have opened "most" of the pull requests :-P
      • 2013-03-13 07232, 2013

      • Freso proceeds to git push -f an empty repository
      • 2013-03-13 07236, 2013

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      • 2013-03-13 07243, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        I didn't make the repo public the last 5 years or so..
      • 2013-03-13 07202, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        well, I could just rebase that ;-)
      • 2013-03-13 07212, 2013

      • Freso
        Psh.
      • 2013-03-13 07202, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        and I DO have a mirror of the repo. of course. (and a backup of that mirror that won't accept rebases and stuff)
      • 2013-03-13 07226, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        (apart from the simple fact that everybody has a local clone anyways)
      • 2013-03-13 07249, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        But I would be happy if you don't break stuff anyways :-)
      • 2013-03-13 07231, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        For when github is down: http://git.kraehen.org/
      • 2013-03-13 07247, 2013

      • Freso
        When GH's down, I still have the local copy. :)
      • 2013-03-13 07257, 2013

      • Freso
        (Man, I love DVCS's!)
      • 2013-03-13 07210, 2013

      • Freso
        ...
      • 2013-03-13 07215, 2013

      • Freso
        And it's almost midnight.
      • 2013-03-13 07218, 2013

      • Freso
        G'night!
      • 2013-03-13 07228, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        Yes, but you can't just tell people to clone your local copy
      • 2013-03-13 07231, 2013

      • JonnyJD
        and he is gone..
      • 2013-03-13 07207, 2013

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      • ruaok
        ianmcorvidae: ping
      • 2013-03-13 07238, 2013

      • ruaok chats with a developer from Asturias.
      • 2013-03-13 07250, 2013

      • ruaok
        thats your old neighborhood, right reosarevok ?
      • 2013-03-13 07218, 2013

      • reosarevok
        It is
      • 2013-03-13 07225, 2013

      • reosarevok
        What do they want?
      • 2013-03-13 07231, 2013

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      • 2013-03-13 07258, 2013

      • ruaok
        to pay us for commercial access to the WS. :)
      • 2013-03-13 07208, 2013

      • reosarevok
        huh
      • 2013-03-13 07211, 2013

      • ruaok
        and I'll pick his brain about how do be a freelancer in Spain.
      • 2013-03-13 07215, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Interesting
      • 2013-03-13 07228, 2013

      • ruaok
        I just learned that Hacienda refers to the tax authority. :)
      • 2013-03-13 07256, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        pong, though I may be heading back out shortly
      • 2013-03-13 07242, 2013

      • ruaok
        reosarevok: I never head about the 280E minimum. I can get private health insurance for less than that.
      • 2013-03-13 07253, 2013

      • ruaok
        about 170€
      • 2013-03-13 07203, 2013

      • reosarevok
        ruaok: that's not only healthcare, it includes also retirement pension shit
      • 2013-03-13 07204, 2013

      • ruaok
        ianmcorvidae: did you make any changes to when backups run?
      • 2013-03-13 07214, 2013

      • ruaok
        I just went to change backup disks and the disk was busy.
      • 2013-03-13 07218, 2013

      • reosarevok
        ruaok: and is mandatory IIRC
      • 2013-03-13 07228, 2013

      • ruaok
        reosarevok: ah, ok.
      • 2013-03-13 07229, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        ruaok: I didn't as far as I know
      • 2013-03-13 07241, 2013

      • ruaok
        weird. I wonder if its a time change thing.
      • 2013-03-13 07254, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        ruaok: I did add teto to the list, and I don't really understand that system well
      • 2013-03-13 07209, 2013

      • ruaok
        reosarevok: well, I *think* spanish taxes == US taxes & stoopid health insurance premiums.
      • 2013-03-13 07212, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae
        if you do you might check and see that everything looks correct re: the setup
      • 2013-03-13 07215, 2013

      • reosarevok
        ruaok: that's the minimum, mind - in theory if you earn more, you can select a higher tier and get a bigger pension when you retire. But I suspect pretty much everything else would be a better idea.
      • 2013-03-13 07237, 2013

      • reosarevok
        ruaok: especially since I don't even expect there'll be any money left to pay pensions when you eventually retire, even if you're still in ES :D
      • 2013-03-13 07237, 2013

      • ianmcorvidae heads back out at present
      • 2013-03-13 07247, 2013

      • ruaok
        ianmcorvidae: lets look at this tomorrow.
      • 2013-03-13 07200, 2013

      • ruaok
        reosarevok: I think that is the same all over the world.
      • 2013-03-13 07213, 2013

      • ruaok
        as it stands I am not counting on any of the social security I paid living here.
      • 2013-03-13 07216, 2013

      • ruaok
        and that has been quite a bit.
      • 2013-03-13 07220, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Mind, private retirement plans in Spain are similarly bad
      • 2013-03-13 07232, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I honestly don't know if there's any good option
      • 2013-03-13 07246, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Apart from dying before you're 67 and avoiding all the mess
      • 2013-03-13 07247, 2013

      • ruaok
        I don't expect anyone to look after me when I am old.
      • 2013-03-13 07215, 2013

      • ruaok
        given how much I've been poisoined here in this country, I'd be suprised if I live beyond that. :0
      • 2013-03-13 07226, 2013

      • reosarevok
        been poisoned he says
      • 2013-03-13 07232, 2013

      • reosarevok
        All due to others
      • 2013-03-13 07242, 2013

      • ruaok
        lol
      • 2013-03-13 07254, 2013

      • ruaok
        that is the least of my worries. that is a concious decisions.
      • 2013-03-13 07256, 2013

      • ruaok
        -s
      • 2013-03-13 07218, 2013

      • ruaok
        the gargbage sold here as "food" is em, industrial by-products for the most part.
      • 2013-03-13 07241, 2013

      • reosarevok
        heh
      • 2013-03-13 07259, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Yeah, well, I don't have any idea what the meat in the meaty stuff I eat actually is
      • 2013-03-13 07212, 2013

      • ruaok
        horsemeat. :)
      • 2013-03-13 07214, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Well, I trust the market stalls to sell pork when they say it is pork
      • 2013-03-13 07232, 2013

      • reosarevok
        But yeah, the stuff in meatballs and the like, god knows
      • 2013-03-13 07240, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Horsemeat? dude, horses are kinda expensive
      • 2013-03-13 07245, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Compared to rats and the like, at least :p
      • 2013-03-13 07254, 2013

      • ruaok
        lol.
      • 2013-03-13 07245, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Anyway, I don't particularly care about *what animal* the meat comes from, as much as how much shit that animal has been fed :p
      • 2013-03-13 07202, 2013

      • ruaok
        lol, srsly.
      • 2013-03-13 07246, 2013

      • reosarevok
        I'm not going to feel sadder if it turns out to be a cat, as long as it is a cat that hasn't been eating heavy metals :p
      • 2013-03-13 07258, 2013

      • reosarevok
        (I guess that's trickier for religious people or whatever)
      • 2013-03-13 07233, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Oooh, you're almost funded :)
      • 2013-03-13 07239, 2013

      • ruaok
        yeah.
      • 2013-03-13 07247, 2013

      • ruaok
        we expect to cross the threshold this evening.
      • 2013-03-13 07247, 2013

      • reosarevok
        Nice
      • 2013-03-13 07241, 2013

      • ruaok
        wall street journal asia filmed an interview yesterday.
      • 2013-03-13 07252, 2013

      • ruaok
        we hope that will come out before it closes. might be a nice boost.
      • 2013-03-13 07239, 2013

      • ruaok
        ok, going to let someone test drive my car. might be sold soon.
      • 2013-03-13 07246, 2013

      • ruaok
        feeling very real all of the sudden.