#musicbrainz-devel

man, I need to write straight C code more often

I keep meaning to, yeah

it's rather fun

I was thinking of trying to write a C version of /ws/2 just for fun :P

(I may have an insane definition of "fun" though)

like that?

hah

oh, not quite

(it's only a start tho; just the core object outline and the ratelimiter)

I meant writing the server-side stuff

ah :)

as in the actual webservice, not bindings to it :)

writing http applications in C is really rare to see.

yeah

ocharles did a bit of prototyping of a haskell version

kepstin-laptop: I've been writing a bit of C code recently

I'd only be doing it in C because I want a project in C, not because it's the best choice :P

and if you're restrained about it, it can be quite beautiful and fun

certainly a lot cleaner than MyClass::MyClass::MyAss::FuckThis

writing stuff using gnome libraries takes some of the simplicity away, tho :/

(aka C++)

the only problem with doing webservice stuff in C is that you have to deal with xml; and xml makes *anything* ugly and not fun.

srsly.

at the MHD barcelona I apologized profusely for not having json support.

yeah :/

I'm glad we're going to fix that soon

yeah

of course, we'll still get to support XML for quite a while

so, is it going to be an actual new ws design, or just porting the existing ws to a new format?

first porting the existing WS

there may be a new WS too, but I think the JSON is happening to /ws/2

anyways, I now also have a musicbrainz server vm on my laptop, which should hopefully allow me to develop the webservice library and riker player on the bus without an internet connection :)

yay :)

When was this change made? http://musicbrainz.org/robots.txt

(to disalow: *)

that has to be a bug.

can you please open a ticket?

MBH?

no MBS

mark it as important, please.

navap, ruaok: I bet the symlink got set incorrectly or something, maybe fabric screwed it up?

ah, is it a symlink now? I know that was discussed, but didn't know it was turned into reality

afaik it was

I could be wrong though, naturally :)

yeah, there's robots.txt.production and robots.txt.staging in root/

there should be a symlink root/robots.txt pointing to .production, below that in the nginx config has 'try_files $uri $uri.staging' so it defaults to the staging one

hello!

warp (and ocharles if you're around): for new development branches, I've been basing them on beta, since in terms of merging it looks basically like master used to, but I realize that might be wrong -- should I be using master as my base for development?

(where possible -- i18n stuff I'll probably have to use beta)

(or the split-domains branch, but)

ianmcorvidae: master is probably better.

yeah; I fixed them

ianmcorvidae: beta is reset to master after each release

yeah; I realized that by the beta flowchart, it's not beta that gets merged into master before release, it's the individual branches

i.e., the individual branches should be based on a common parent of beta and master, i.e. master

if you need some feature only available in beta, you should branch off of that specific feature.

yeah; I'll use split-domains as my base for any i18n stuff then

I guess if I need more than one thing in beta choose one, merge the other?

yes

cool

So thanks to djce I should now be able to connect to the Splunk server from rika. My question: should I do the development on rika now?

I can see a musicbrainz-server folder in my home dir, so I suppose it's sort of a private copy of the server, right?

plaintext: rika runs the sandbox stuff. many users have a <username>.mbsandbox.org which runs on rika.

plaintext: ianmcorvidae can help you set that up if that's what you need.

yeah ruaok told me to pester him about it :) so

ianmcorvidae: ping :)

re: browser requirements, don't all current engines support cors?

good mornin!

ianmcorvidae: you should be using master as your base and merging whatever you need into it

ianmcorvidae: but I don't think this branching model makes any sense either

ocharles: Did I see you run some kind of irc 'proxy' that stays logged in always, and lets you connect to it from anywhere?

adhawkins: correct

I run znc on ocharles.org.uk

Ok, that was going to be my next question.

Is it easy to set up?

when I connect to IRC, I get the last 1000 lines I haven't seen sent to me as well

yea, straight forward enough

Cool, might have a ply. Cheers.

s/ply/play

ocharles: pushed mbs-939

adhawkins: do you want an invite to irccloud.com? it's the same thing, but web-based

alastairp: Might be worth a look. Got ZNC up and running, but might be worth exploring alternatives.

Works quite well, just hook mIRC up to it like any other server

warp: if only Microsoft did the same, huh :p

alastairp: And irccloud will be a pay service too it appears...at least 5 euros a month...

yeah, but not yet

reosarevok: haha

still in beta

alastairp: If you can send an invite then, I'll give it a go.

I assume you use it?

oh

That reminds me I'm supposed to write a couple minipatches

irc cloud is good

ocharles: last day for patches is next Monday?

Or a bit before?

no, before

monday is first day of freeze

i mean you can still submit patches and they can go on test

but just not beta or production

Yeah, yeah

Mostly wondering where exactly the break was

So since someone needs to give them a ship it before they can be put in beta and last day for beta is Sunday I guess that makes it Saturday or so

well in practice it's more like friday

Unless someone else is doing stuff over the weekend

Hmm, ok

There's a ticket asking for Google+ in the sidebar and I've asked style for opinions but I want to know how long I should keep it open - I guess I'll write it on Friday morning if nobody opposes and leave it there for the next release if someone does

G+? really?

Really

all the akb48 members have G+ accounts, for example