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      • ruaok
        well, in that vein SBP is nice.
      • I can leave the house with 50 minutes before my international departure and be totally fine.
      • "international
      • "
      • ianmcorvidae
        heh
      • SBP is small enough you don't get much choice of airline though
      • which is what makes the BDL/TUS size better
      • lots of airlines, but you can still show up 45 minutes before your flight and be fine
      • reosarevok
        Choice of airline?
      • I thought the US had like 4 big airlines and all of them sucked anyway
      • ruaok
        southwest and virgin america dont suck.
      • my GF likes alaska.
      • the rest? fuck'em.
      • ianmcorvidae
        reosarevok: SBP gets two airlines, US and United :P
      • virgin america I wish TUS got, but we do get southwest
      • it's nice to have AA and delta as options for when I can't take southwest and want choices beyond the other sucky ones
      • reosarevok
        You could also move to Europe ;)
      • reosarevok subtly makes your mind want to do it
      • Ok, I've never been too good at being subtle
      • ianmcorvidae
        :P
      • ruaok
        no patience, reosarevok.
      • reosarevok
        ruaok: it was for ianmcorvidae
      • You're doing it anyway :p
      • ruaok
        oh. ok.
      • ruaok is on it
      • reosarevok
        But that means we need ianmcorvidae to move for the full core team to be in EU
      • Well, and navap I guess?
      • ruaok
        ianmcorvidae: I'd fly delta before AA.
      • AA has fucked me too many times
      • ianmcorvidae
        I avoid everyone but southwest if I can
      • reosarevok
        ruaok: Yeah, with all that wanting you to stop drinking
      • Oh, wait, wrong AA
      • ruaok
        ianmcorvidae: I avoid US based airlines if possible.
      • like my trip to BCN.
      • bought on United.
      • flown by skywest, swiss and Lufthansa.
      • ianmcorvidae
        if I can't get them my ordering is probably US Airways on top (because my dad gets lots of frequent flyer miles from them, so, cheap), then the other three
      • ruaok
        no single united operated flight. WIN!
      • reosarevok
        heh
      • ianmcorvidae
        haha
      • nikki
        ianmcorvidae: yes, as reosarevok said, move to europe! come to germany! >:D
      • nikki uses this as an opportunity to remind you :P
      • ruaok
        nikki: the other day someone asked me why I am not moving back to germany...
      • reosarevok
        Estonia is cheaper ;) Well, *East* Germany might not be much more expensive
      • ruaok
        guess what my response was.
      • reosarevok
        But Bonn is in the wrong half!
      • nikki doesn't know
      • ruaok
        gema
      • reosarevok
        lol
      • nikki
        oh, right :P
      • reosarevok
        Good point
      • ruaok
        gez a closed second
      • reosarevok
        See, ianmcorvidae? Estonia
      • ruaok
        -d
      • reosarevok
        First in the world on internet freedom!
      • nikki
        I guess gema is the second thing I don't like
      • reosarevok
        (according to someone I don't know)
      • ruaok
        nikki: what is first?
      • reosarevok
        Her smoking neighbors?
      • nikki
        the bizarre traffic light crossing system
      • reosarevok
        Oh
      • ianmcorvidae: Also snowy and cold! No more desert!
      • ruaok
        nikki: what's so bizzare about it?
      • nikki
        I swear I nearly get run over every time I cross the road :/
      • reosarevok
        (if you don't like cold, forget that bit)
      • nikki
        I'm used to the uk, where when there's a green man, there's no moving vehicles
      • reosarevok
        (still no more desert though)
      • nikki
        unlike here where green man means there's still moving vehicles
      • ruaok
        same here to
      • turn on red is allowed.
      • reosarevok
        Well, green man = if there are vehicles, they have to stop anyway if someone's crossing, right?
      • nikki
        it's like the bad parts of zebra crossings combined with the bad parts of pelican crossings
      • ruaok
        suppsed to an do are different
      • nikki
        they often speed up if they think someone's about to cross, to avoid having to wait
      • which scares the shit out of me :P
      • reosarevok
        heh
      • Yeah, they did it sometimes in Spain
      • jdamcd
        I almost died about a dozen times in San Francisco because I never learned that cars could turn at red lights
      • reosarevok
        If you actually *do* cross, they either avoid you or stop though
      • jdamcd
        how does that make any sense?
      • reosarevok
        If only to avoid fucking up their car / insurance marks
      • ruaok
        jdamcd: it makes sense from a driver
      • s perspective.
      • ianmcorvidae has gotten very good at glaring at drivers
      • ianmcorvidae
        it's fun to shame them into stopping
      • reosarevok
        I guess the problem is designing cities from a driver's perspective :)
      • ruaok
        jdamcd: then again, how does cars always having right of way of pedestrians in the UK make sense? ;-)
      • ianmcorvidae
        however, yes, right-turn-on-red is great as a driver and terrible as a pedestrian
      • hawke_
        jdamcd: how does that not make sense? They’re not crossing traffic, just merging.
      • ruaok
        ianmcorvidae: glaring is a great tool
      • reosarevok
        hawke_: pedestrian traffic is traffic!
      • ianmcorvidae
        hawke_: pedestrians
      • reosarevok
        (the most important bit of it)
      • hawke_
        reosarevok, ianmcorvidae: We’re talking about the US here.
      • ianmcorvidae guesses hawke doesn't go out walking much
      • ianmcorvidae
        hawke_: yes, I also live here
      • and fuck drivers
      • hawke_
        I do, actually — bicycling more than walking
      • reosarevok
        Again, it comes down to "designing your cities for cars is stupid"
      • hawke_
        I just don’t walk in front of someone who’s turning right.
      • reosarevok: Well, yeah.
      • ianmcorvidae
        if you're hurtling yourself faster than any unassisted human can in an air-conditioned metal box you can fucking stop when I'm out walking
      • and I think the law should support that viewpoint as well
      • ruaok owns six bikes and is sad to have to divest 4 of them
      • reosarevok
        ruaok: why? because you can't take them to EU?
      • ruaok
        yea.
      • reosarevok
        Keep them until the next gsoc summit
      • ruaok
        I can't justify them all.
      • hawke_
        Anyone want to try to find out what http://musicbrainz.org/release/e9a9d1c7-e4c0-46... is?
      • reosarevok
        Give 2 to each of the MB mentors :p
      • ruaok
        but I am consdering one going to london.
      • hawke_
        whoops, wrong channel.
      • nikki
        ruaok: oh, the thing that bothers me the most about the crossings is when the moving traffic is coming from behind (which is the case for one of the crossings near here). I don't have eyes in the back of my head, so it all looks clear and then there's suddenly a car coming towards me D:
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      • ruaok
        fuss. another reason to not use crossings. :)
      • nikki
        I'm getting better at avoiding the ones I don't like
      • reosarevok
        From behind?
      • Oh, includes a turn I guess?
      • nikki
        yes
      • reosarevok
        Yeah, not a lot of those here thankfully
      • but those are annoying
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      • ruaok
        now that I am thinking of it, I'm not wholly sure what type of intersection you mean, nikki
      • google maps?
      • reosarevok
        ruaok: well, if they can freely turn right, any car can take a turn from behind you and appear by you a couple metres away
      • (since the crossings tend to be very close to the corners)
      • jdamcd
        Android app 1.3 roll out has happened (at least where I am) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=o... If anybody tries it and makes it crash ping me details plz
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      • ruaok
        update downloading!
      • hawke_
        download updating!
      • ruaok
        jdamcd: with the wikipedia stuff added, its more useful than the MB site itself. :)
      • ianmcorvidae
        hah
      • reosarevok
        Now, if it displayed artists for VA releases... ;)
      • jdamcd
        haha