#musicbrainz-devel

there's some stuff in miscellaneous that might matter? dunno about the isrcsubmit stuff

sysadmin/irclogger I need to finish mb-chat-logger to deprecate

I think sysadmin/mrtg and sysadmin/packages are deprecated

pymb2 might not be anywhere else

reosarevok: can do (or at least, I can submit the appropriate request). What specifically are we trying to achieve, to rename "bugs" as "trac" ?

Not necessarily rename for now

But make both go to trac

then maybe get rid of "bugs" one day?

also get rid of "trac" on that day.

:p

either way, it's a DNS change and an nginx change, possibly a change on wiley too....

I think the notion is make it easier to find for as long as we continue to have it

with a nice helping of "let's get our shit away from SVN so we can just kill it" :P

How do you think that people find it? Why does adding a new DNS name make it easier to find?

because 'bugs' and 'tickets' are very similar terms, so people tend to remember "old = trac, new = jira"

but it's harder to keep track of trac = bugs, jira = tickets

in IRC we also tend to refer to trac as trac, not as 'bugs', because it makes for much less awkward sentences and tends to be clearer for people who don't know the details of our DNS

and people are more likely to know that we use trac for svn viewing

rather than specifically knowing that you can view svn on bugs.mb

(which is totally not intuitive :P)

yeah

and anecdotally, when people ask "where's that nice SVN browser thingy" it's usually "hm, I remember the trac SVN browser, but trac.musicbrainz.org didn't work, where was that again?"

hm. printer/scanner device refuses to scan when there are ink cartridges present.

even needs the colour cartridge present, glad I didn't throw that out yet, even though it's empty.

ianmcorvidae: I would be happy for you to migrate mmdschema to git, giving me a chance to get comfortable with git before search server is moved to git

we're almost done moving to github I think. let's get that finished first.

nikki: That's exactly the process I went through earlier.

"SVN browser is part of trac. Let's try trac.mb.org. Oh...it doesnt't work, I'll pester those nice people on IRC" :)

Hi..after the upgrade..noticed mb server slow response..which seems to be ws/2/artist/artist from debug output... https://gist.github.com/3911695

is any index missing?

luks: I did at least manage to successfully upgrade my non-8.4 db with mbslave :)

hi..i've also tried switching to old version of mb server against new upgraded db..and that version response seems fine..so definitely feel like it's the new code..here's the query i'm testing ../ws/2/artist/79239441-bfd5-4981-a70c-55c3f15c1287

looks like i got disconnected..

Howdy! I'm currently trying to install and run a musicbrainz mirror, and got stuck on some errors trying to start the server:

Watching ./lib app.psgi for file updates.

Error while loading app.psgi: Can't locate HTML/FormHandler/Moose.pm in @INC (@INC contains: lib local/lib/perl5/i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi local/lib/perl5 . /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/lib/perl/5.10) at lib/MusicBrainz/Server/Form/Confirm.pm line 2.

BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at lib/MusicBrainz/Server/Form/Confirm.pm line 2.

Compilation failed in require at lib/MusicBrainz/Server/Controller/Label.pm line 24.

Compilation failed in require at local/lib/perl5/Catalyst/Utils.pm line 306.

Compilation failed in require at app.psgi line 21.

BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at app.psgi line 21.

Anyone have any idea?

looks like carton install probably didn't install everything

is there a way to check what failed to install?

! Bailing out the installation for Email-Valid-0.190. Retry with --prompt or --force.

! Bailing out the installation for HTML-FormHandler-0.40013. Retry with --prompt or --force.

i got those two

hi anyone can help on this?

oh i think i know issue..my nginx is not setup ..nm..

ianmcorvidae: FWIW, I think everything SVN should just be migrated to Git if it's not too much a hassle. It can be deprecated from there, but it will allow us to still access the source of all-that-is-and-has-been-MB in a uniform way.

What is required to get permissions on Wiki?

About the errors i posted, is it okey to just run "carton install --deployment" again?

or do i need to do anything else?

hmm..nginx doesn't seem to be the issue..

Freso: permissions for what?

TMiland: you could try just carton install

thank you nikki! :)

sorry i'm still looking for help on latency issue..is Rob going to be available sometime today?

nikki: Moving pages.

(I hope you read the chat logs. :))

brrr. chllly this morning. only 19C at 9:30am

well, it's not actually that much cooler atm; 16°C. But it's usually down around 10-12 in the mornings now; sometimes lower.

Yeah, 19°C would be nice.

I'm mostly kidding. yesterday at this time is was 25C and the rest of the day ended up being above 30C

got any hot ones in there?

sourcing fresh hot peppers is always hard

U mean chilli peppers, we have a chilli plant that did quite well, but don't think it last much longer

hot ones. pain inducing hot. :)

well hot enough for me, but not upto scooby doo levels

ruaok: I mostly grow Fresno, reasonably hot. Sorry, they won't be ready by the 22nd.

bummer.

how does that relate to a Serrano, which is my typical go to pepper?

It's poppin'.

They're sweet, not quite as hot as serrano.

... but at least as hot as a decent jalapeno (as opposed to those weak supermarket ones)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaTtO9GlX5I <- Fresno

>_>

its really nice to wake up and not have everything burning.

I might have time to get the brakes on my car fixed, so I dont end up killing the core MB team. :)

Hm? You don't think that'd be productive?

Freso: I can move stuff if you want

nikki: Yeah, and reo can too. :)

warp: do you have a driver's license?

nikki: In this particular case, I'd like to have moved user:FrederikSOlesen/* to user:Freso/* (I'll do a manual splice of the two root pages eventually and make FSO #redirect to Freso).

ruaok: yes.

ruaok: I drove the last stretch last year

stefans_: are you coming to the summit? I need to pester adrian about last.fm's summit participation.

oh right. :)

that might come in handy to shuttle us back and forth from the wild palms.

ok

I was planning on taking my bike, but with 4 people in the car on the way back, that becomes a major hassle.

hm skates.

Jetpack

4 wheels in a square or wheels in a line?

ruaok i'd love to come but will be on holiday. however, i suggested to ocharles that i skype into the conference if anyone is interested in hearing about what last.fm has been up to

stefans_: bummer. I'd hate to intrude on your holidays though. maybe you can just impart that knowlege on ocharles?

(unless you really want to skype in)

warp: yes, inline skates.

i'll share knowledge with ocharles. pretty excited about a skype in tho

ok, lets do both.

will you be in the same time-zone as us?

i think i'll be +7 or +8 :)

ah, quite a ways away.

yeah, but it should be doable

we better pick a time that works for all of us.

cool

noted.

derwin and I are going to camp outside IA like in a samsung commercial