#musicbrainz-devel

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      • ruaok
        how did the savages in the south treat you?
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      • alastairp
        I’ve come to this weird realisation that I understand catalan better than andalusian spanish
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      • ruaok
        I think I am the other way around. Odd.
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      • ruaok
        But I haven't been down there recently, so I can't say that about my spanish knowledge today.
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      • alastairp
        anyway, it’s nice to be home
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      • alastairp
        Mineo: Freso: around?
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      • alastairp
        I’m thinking more about artist string->many ids in messybrainz, and how we could do it
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      • alastairp
        currently for recordings we have a concept of a cluster (many messybrainz submissions), and each cluster can be assigned 1 recording mbid
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      • darwin
        wtf is messybrainz?
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      • alastairp
        it would be easy to extend this to allow many ids to be assigned to an artist cluster, though we may loose ordering (do we need a sequence?)
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      • alastairp
        darwin: it’s a supporting component of listenbrainz - basically a string -> id mapper, which can then be mapped to real mbids
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      • ruaok
        darwin: :)
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      • alastairp
        since people may not have mbid tags in files (or services may not support it - spotify, etc)
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      • darwin
        gotcha.
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      • darwin
        yeah, basically that kind of service is frequently needed
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      • alastairp
        no
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      • darwin
        ugh, I can't find it right now
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      • darwin
        but yes, it's a thing that cross-links various libraries
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      • darwin
        thetvdb, tvrage etc
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      • darwin
        err, various meta info sites
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      • alastairp
        can’t be good if it’s so hard to find ;)
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      • darwin
        hard to google for.
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      • ruaok prods bitmap to update his trello board
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      • Freso
        alastairp: I am now.
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      • bitmap
        sorry, was slacking
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      • Freso reads
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      • Freso
        Oh. I should update mine as well, I guess. Maybe.
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      • Freso looks
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      • alastairp
        meeting time? I might bow out - I need to eat dinner. last week LB & MsB, this week more of the same
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      • alastairp
        Freso: perhaps we could talk after meeting/dinner
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      • Freso
        (y)
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      • alastairp
        if you have any thoughts
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      • ruaok
        alastairp: I'll report fo ryou.
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      • alastairp
        thanks
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      • ruaok
        right then, time to get a move on. we have a lot of things to cover today.
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      • ruaok
        welcome everyone!
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      • bitmap
        hello
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      • ruaok
        I'll go first with alastairp's report.
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      • ruaok
        he's been slacking.
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      • ruaok
        fin.
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      • ruaok
        just kidding. :)
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      • ruaok
        alastairp and I have been working on messybrainz and listenbrainz, trying to get it working and reasonable stable for some sort of launch on thursday.
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      • ruaok
        alastairp and I are giving the closing session presentation, talking about listenbrainz and a wee bit about messybrainz.
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      • Freso
        \o/
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      • ruaok
        I've conscripted Gentlecat a little this week to help on the listenbrainz front as well, but he can tell you about that.
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      • ruaok hogs the mic and continues about his week
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      • bitmap wants to write something to import itunes playcounts already
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      • ruaok
        between listenbrainz work, some sysadmin stuff, I've been doing a lot trying to whip ourselves into shape.
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      • ruaok
        I met up with Freso at Christianaia for an afternoon last week.
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      • ruaok
        that was fun -- good to catch up in a great environment.
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      • Freso
        ruaok: Are you calling yourselves fat?
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      • ruaok
        sadly, yea. All that beer in belgium. :(
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      • ruaok
        Freso made me realize that I need more help and that I have too many tasks on my plate.
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      • Freso
        I really miss the weather from that day. It's only been going down hill every single day since.
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      • ruaok
        and that I need to stop what I am doing and focus on getting help both on the sysadmin front and on the biz dev front.
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      • ruaok
        and on his prodding I realized that some things had recently changed that allowed some new doors to open.
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      • Freso
        :)
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      • ruaok is being intentionally vague.
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      • ruaok
        but, the most immediate exciting thing at hand is that zas is looking for a part time sysadmin position.
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      • Freso
        \o/
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      • ruaok
        and I've asked around what people think of him who have worked with him and the feedback was good.
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      • ruaok
        we've basically settled the rough details on how we wish to proceed and I now need to get board approval to hire him.
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      • ruaok is really stoked about this.
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      • bitmap
        awesome
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      • ruaok
        next, a friend of mine here in barcelona... some of you have met this person might become available soon.
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      • reosarevok
        Sysadmin? Yay!
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      • ruaok
        this person would make a really great addition to the team to help me deal with new customers and bringing more money into the organization.
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      • LordSputnik
        zas: are you the guy who had the camera at last year's summit?
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      • reosarevok
        LordSputnik: yup
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      • ruaok
        dealing with customers off the new metabrainz site is considerably more work than I have time for, so getting help on this front is really needed.
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      • zas
        you mean the guy nikki hates ? yes ;)
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      • ruaok
        eh
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      • ruaok
        :)
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      • ruaok
        this is again something I need board approval for, so right now I am tracking down all the financial details of the past year and expected expenses for the next year.
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      • ruaok
        to build a case that the board can swallow and that will not get us into trouble.
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      • ruaok
        hopefully I will have more to report on all that next week.
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      • Freso crosses fingers
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      • ruaok
        Freso and I spoke about SSO stuff, but we can cover that later.
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      • ruaok
        all of my other topics/question are for other topics.
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      • LordSputnik
        ruaok: I would say invite them to lunch, but knowing where you like to eat nowadays, I don't think that'd leave the MeB finances in a position to hire more people :D
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      • ruaok
        but, now over to bitmap.
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      • ruaok
        bitmap: thank you thank you thank you for shutting modbot up!
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      • bitmap
        :)
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      • ruaok
        I know that was a huge effort and I'm really happy. thank you!
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      • ruaok
        how was your week?
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      • zas
        LordSputnik: a bunch of ants and you're done with ruaok ;)
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      • ruaok
        lol, LordSputnik. I actually paid for that lunch myself. :)
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      • bitmap
        my week involved a lot of travel planning, so it was less productive than I would've liked
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      • ruaok
        that sucks soo much time!
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      • bitmap
        but, I'm glad to have everything finally settled for the mb/gsoc summits
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      • bitmap
        I did a server release on tuesday, a day late 'cause I wanted to investigate caa uploading issues people were having
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      • bitmap
        only ~25% of uploads were going through, or something, and it wasn't a problem on the IA's side
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      • bitmap
        it seems that the upgrade to perl 5.18 affected the signature calculation, since hash keys are returned in a random order
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      • bitmap
        and we had code that expected them not to be, for some reason :)
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      • bitmap
        so that took all day to debug, but got fixed
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      • ruaok
        whops.
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      • reosarevok
        :)
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      • zas
        bitmap: thanks, it was a damn annoying one.
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      • ruaok
        I see that you spent very little time on the google stuff.
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      • ruaok
        I'd really like to move that to the top of the priority list.
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      • bitmap
        yeah, that got pushed back for the last couple weeks, but I've started on it again yesterday
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      • ruaok
        I'm now planning on earmarking that contract money to hire this other person, so we really need to get it finished.
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      • bitmap
        ok, I'll make that a top priority
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      • ruaok
        ok good. :)
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      • ruaok
        I think we'll all feel much better then that is finally done. :)
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      • ruaok
        anything else?
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      • bitmap
        anyway, when I was done planning travel stuff, I worked on MBS-8534 and a few smaller things, that's about it
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      • mb-chat-logger
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      • bitmap
        fin
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      • ruaok
        thanks!
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      • ruaok
        who is next?
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      • ruaok
        Gentlecat, Leftmost, reosarevok?
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      • ruaok
        LordSputnik?
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      • Freso
        I'll go.
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      • ruaok
        go
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      • Freso
        So, some weirdo came to Copenhagen and I met up with them at Freetown Christiania and talked about stuff. This was good and I felt it was rather productive, and I think that they did too.
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      • Freso
        Other than that, last week was mostly community service stuff + finishing off a Cousera music theory course as well as some outstanding things I needed to get done for my dance classes, both of which I've been slacking on the previous weeks.
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      • ruaok
        weridos \ø/
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      • Freso
        Soo... no blog post this past week, so that is very much in the plans for this week. Hopefully tomorrow!
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      • Freso
        And I think fin.
      • 2015-09-14 25729, 2015

      • Freso
        Oh.
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      • Freso
        I also started correspondence with Coursera, which I'll come back to later in the meeting.
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      • Freso
        fin.
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      • ruaok
        Discourse?
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      • ruaok
        or Coursera?
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      • ruaok
        reosarevok, prod.
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      • ruaok
        Gentlecat?
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      • reosarevok
        ouch!
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      • Gentlecat
        yes
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      • Freso
        Discourse, yes. :p
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      • ruaok
        reosarevok, go. then Gentlecat
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      • Freso
        Something with course.
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      • reosarevok
        So, I'm moving house this week on top of school, so it's been busy. That said, I still did manage to finally put out a blog post with all the changes from the last couple months
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      • reosarevok
        After Freso prodded me about that one
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      • reosarevok
        (thanks Freso)
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      • ruaok
        moving house again?
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      • Freso
        Oh, yeah, I did ^ too. :p
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      • ruaok
        is that how you keep fit?
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah. Still in Tartu though, no big change
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      • reosarevok
        haha
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      • reosarevok
        No, that's running and biking
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      • Freso
        You're moving the house on top of your school?