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      • reosarevok
        ruaok?
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      • reosarevok
        Any idea?
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      • keim_
        so anyone know a good cronjob for starting the musicbrainz mirror?
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      • keim_
        keep getting carton: not found when i try to set it up in a cron
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      • ianmcorvidae
        demosdemon: were you planning to pick back up http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-2614 at some point?
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      • luks
        any strong objections to removing puid support from picard 1.2? https://github.com/musicbrainz/picard/commit/9d13…
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      • nikki
        doooo it! :D
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      • Mineo
        luks: aren't you supposed to be hiking?:P
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      • luks
        I got bored, but it was too cold :)
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      • Mineo
        ah
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      • Leftmost
        I sometimes forget it still has PUID support.
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      • luks
        should be much easier to create the mac/win installers now
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      • _5moufl
        11°52'48" nikki> doooo it! :D
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      • nikki
        _5moufl: ?
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      • _5moufl
        >> any strong objections to removing puid support from picard 1.2? https://github.com/musicbrainz/picard/commit/9d13… <<
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      • nikki
        er, yes, I do know what I was responding to...
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      • _5moufl
        I was just +1 :/
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      • nikki
        I see...
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      • Freso
        nikki: I'm being slowly killed by that tab bug right now. D:
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      • nikki can imagine :/
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      • Freso
        Entering a 22 track mixtape release, with ~90% of the artists not existing in the database - most of the tracks are Unknown-to-MB-artist #1 & #2.
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      • Freso
        >_<
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      • reosarevok
        :(
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      • Freso
        The release editor sucks. -.-
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      • Freso
        *release addition editor
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      • reosarevok
        Sometimes, it really does, yeah
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      • reosarevok
        But well, it does its job most of the time
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      • Freso
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      • Freso
        As I see it right now, I either accept that release added with a lot of VA's and then fix it afterwards, or I start all over.
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      • Freso
        Neither of which seem very appealing. :/
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      • reosarevok
        Or you add the artists and enter them?
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      • reosarevok
        (I have never seen it complain if I actually give it all the artists from the tracklist tab...)
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      • Freso
        That's basically option 1 though.
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      • reosarevok
        Well, since you'd have to fix all the artists anyway otherwise...
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      • reosarevok
        (to add type / gender / country info)
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      • Freso
        Eh. I don't know gender or country for most anyway. Yet.
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      • reosarevok
        I only add artists via add missing entities when I know absolutely nothing about them
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      • Freso
        I haven't actually listened to it yet, as I didn't want to rip it before it was in MB.
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      • reosarevok
        Since "absolutely nothing" is all the "Add missing entities" step lets me enter about them :(
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      • Freso
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      • Freso
        I'll go about adding the proper artists later.
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      • bitmap
        ocharles, warp, ianmcorvidae: IMO the relationship editor isn't ready for release tomorrow, and nikki agrees too, so we should push it until the next one
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      • ocharles
        ok, i'll revert it tomorrow
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      • bitmap
        the bugs are small, which is good, but they're also annoying/problematic and need to be fixed :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        ocharles: when you do, please also check edit search to see if my fixes to that need reverting (since those had to do with the jquery update that came with the rel editor)
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      • ocharles
        I think they should be ok, but will do
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      • plaintext
        hi ianmcorvidae
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      • alastairp_
        reosarevok: I see MTG people at the end of the week, so I'll ask them then to make sure they're on the list
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      • reosarevok
        alastairp, cool :)
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      • ruaok
        alastairp: tell xavier hi from me. and alba too if she is around.
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      • Freso
        Magic: The Gathering people?
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      • reosarevok
        I sure hope not!
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      • reosarevok
        I no longer have a deck!
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      • warp never had a deck.
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      • warp
        (I think I did play it once :)
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      • reosarevok
        Search being sloooow here
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      • reosarevok
        502...
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      • reosarevok
        warp or ruaok, can you check if something looks wrong?
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      • reosarevok
        Hmm, back to working more or less OK
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      • reosarevok
        wonder why it does that :/
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      • warp
        both dora and roobarb respond instantly now.
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      • warp didn't touch anything.
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      • ijabz
        ruaok not seen anyone complaining about search, did the jetty upgrade fix it ?
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      • alastairp
        ruaok: I will
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      • alastairp
        I don't know exactly who will be at the conference
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      • ruaok
        ijabz: no. :(
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      • ijabz
        oh, disappointing, status update ?
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      • ruaok
        ijabz: I think there are some queries that are fouling things up. thats the only think I can imagine is going wrong.
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      • ruaok
        the problem still happens, but instead of one core being 100% is most of the cores taking 100%.
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      • ruaok
        it doesn't respond to SIGTERM
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      • ruaok
        :-(
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      • ruaok
        which means we're not one one step closer to fxing this. :(
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      • ruaok
        can you please:
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      • ijabz
        But if you do jetty equivalent of ./shutdown.sh ,doesn't not shut it down
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      • ruaok
        1. when the server starts, open /tmp/queries.log
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      • ruaok
        2. when you receive a request, write the current PID and the query to the logfile, ended in a new line
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      • ruaok
        3. flush the output to disk.
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      • ruaok
        this way we can look at the processes that are stuck and see what query they are running.
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      • ruaok
        ok, gotta go to lunch. back in a bit.
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      • ijabz
        hmm, i can do that but it not clear why we can't get a stack dump, your saying shutdown.sh has no effect so you have to do kill -9, and that doesn't cause it to do a dump ?
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      • ijabz
        sometimes you actually need to be in the office with someone so you can chat properly
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      • ijabz
        i.e what happens if you do ./jetty.sh stop
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      • kepstin
        http://git.gnome.org/browse/rhythmbox/commit/?id=… - interesting. Rhythmbox dev got annoyed enough with libmusicbrainz that they ended up writing their own webservice access code.
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      • ocharles
        and of course, not one bug report
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      • ocharles
        unless this is cd stuff?
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      • kepstin
        this is for cd lookup, they only wanted artist names and track titles.
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      • kepstin
        instead of dealing with the separate object model from the library, they're loading info from the xml directly into their own data model.
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      • Freso
        nikki et al: What was the reason for not enabling all languages on beta?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        some semblance of completeness?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        other than translations beta is for things that are going to go into the release in the next week
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      • nikki
        partly because some of them are barely even started and just clutter up the menu, probably partly because some people insisted on having them committed to master and we don't want loads of barely complete stuff
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      • Freso
        So how/where does one see translations live to make sure they're used correctly when they're added?
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      • ianmcorvidae
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      • ianmcorvidae
        which also updates automatically
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      • ianmcorvidae
        (the translations, not the underlying code, but)
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      • Freso
        Nice. :)
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      • nikki
        yeah, that updates every hour from transifex, unlike beta which updates whenever ian does it, I imagine :P
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      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah
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      • ianmcorvidae
        which unfortunately at present can't be during freeze, though I'm hoping to convince the devs that's silly tomorrow
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      • Freso
        Re: Rhythmbox; it does look like their change brought a net decrease in code amount: "1733 insertions, 3180 deletions"
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      • ianmcorvidae
        (given translations depend on code and all)