#musicbrainz-devel

Freso: true!

reosarevok: Think of all the important e-mails you're missing out on in that time!!

vodafone I wasn't able to figure out

Freso: I *guess* you could miss a couple goals, if you were following a football match!

Really? *that* sounds a bit too much :p

Summits tend to equal everyone behind a laptop :p

reosarevok: Well, I could bring one... but I wouldn't be able to use it for anything with the screen being broken.

i don't think Freso will be impacted by not having a laptop

it's all about the talking, really

ocharles: I'm probably only bringing the eeepc.

oliver.g.charles: Make all relationship edits bidirectional

(which is to weak to run musicbrainz and doesn't do wifi well)

bidirectional relationship edits \o/

and it wasn't too hard to implement \o/

warp: yep, I can't see you needing more than that

so that's a 7 inch tablet, right?

Well, dunno, there was talk of doing some hacking

Hacking on tablets and eees sounds... bad

warp: Yes

reosarevok: oh the eeepc is fine for hacking on anything _except_ musicbrainz-server

navap: I only recently realized that the N in Nexus N stands for the size of the device.

:)

warp: hack on musicbrainz-data! :)

ocharles :)

warp: Although that doesn't apply to the nexus one ;)

heh, yeah, was going to say

navap: i'm sure that one was really tiny!

Oh, and regading wifi at the apartment... remember what happened last year when the wifi didn't work?

I think we had over 10 people all sharing one cell connection :)

Or maybe it was two cellphones

is there a wired connection available? or just wireless?

kepstin-laptop: usually it's just wireless.

kepstin-laptop: oh, I was going to check if we should meet up,.. but you moved to friday now :)

navap: so it's just us for the whole day until everyone else arrives in the evening.

Yup

Si senor*

hah, how much spanish do you know?

See above :)

lol

:)

morning!

hola ruaok

que tal?

ruaok: book arrived btw

warp: when I was in school, my teachers assured me that no one used the "que tal" question.

perhaps not in mexico, but everywhere else they sure do. :)

nikki: awesome.

for me?

ruaok: it's pretty common in ecuador.

nikki: your mouse + .ec centavo coins.

warp: I heard it a bunch of tims in .co

I also still have some .co money, if you want that nikki

ooooh yes!

ruaok: "como esta" is more common though.

warp: yeah - forgot to check my arrival date, and just wrote down the departure date :)

warp: yep. and a simple hola

ruaok: haha, united had similar issues with their in-flight entertainment. had to be rebooted twice during my flight to schiphol.

So I've decided I won't bring my laptop and will just use my nexus 7 when needed

Which means all I have is one duffel bag, makes things a lot easier

the hostel looks pretty interesting too.

I've never been to a high tech hostel. :)

Terms:

Pets. No Pets.

heh

that was the one I was originally looking at before we changed the date

(since if it'd been next week, the wednesday flight would have been a lot cheaper than the thursday one)

ruaok: It really does look interesting.

I'll have to keep it in mind if I ever set up hitchhiking down there or otherwise travel to BCN for some other occassion. :)

arg, my stupid university wireless is failing again.

I can use IRC, but can't reliably send emails or browse the web? it's really weird :(

What is the quickest way to get from a recording to it's release group? Currently I go recording->track->tracklist->medium->release->release_group but that seems pretty inefficient...

bookie i think that is what you have to do

hmm, well that's unfortunate. thanks

I guess my real issue is that I can't determine directly from a recording what type it is I have to go to recording group type to find out if it was an interview for example

release group type*

which means I have to do 8 joins :/

the release group type doesn't really tell you that either.

Bookle: remember, a recording can be on multiple releases!

so it could be on both an album and a single, for example

and you can obviously have track/recording which is an interview on a release with many songs (i.e. not interviews)

+a

the release group type is meant to describe the release as a whole

warp: yes, that's the problem - there is nothing that accuraterly describes an individual recording's type

Bookle: and what is wrong with 8 joins?

ocharles: amount of time it takes to execute

Bookle: i don't believe that

prove it.

what do you mean?

I don't believe that 8 joins are inherently slow

or more, that there is any reason to be alarmed at 8 joins

kepstin-laptop: well to start with , identify a recording as an interview :)

Bookle: I actually wanted them for karaoke recordings, but yeah :)

live would also be good

ocharles: give me a sec and I'll try to pastebin mething... maybe I'm going wrong elsewhere

hmm. anyways, should I be bringing a sleeping bag or something with me to the summit?

kepstin-laptop: I think a few people will have to bring their sleeping bag, but there hasn't been any coordination as to who is bringing a sleeping bag and who isn't.

it also isn't clear to me how many people need to bring a sleeping bag :)

ocharles: http://pastebin.com/9xsNw1Bv

Bookle: ok, that looks fine to me

should get all recordings that are linked to a release group with a type of live, interview, or recording

Bookle: some recordings aren't linked to any release groups at all :)

kepstin-laptop: those also lack the information that bookle needs

but I've had that running for 10 hours or so and no result

then you should run explain on it and see what the plan is

kepstin-laptop: yup that's fine

but note that is going to take a bit of time because you're going to get potentially millions of results (and you haven't made it distinct on recording.id or anything)

kepstin-laptop: I think, if you have room for a sleeping bag, bring it.

yeah I realized the bit about distinct later, maybe that's the issue

It's better to have one too many, than one too few.

the distinct will only be slower, probably (because distinct usually means sort & filter all results)

but run an explain and see what the plan is

ok

ruaok: Where are you seated Zürich-BCN?

I want to make sure I'm not too close to you.

Nevermind. Seems like there was only one good available seat.

exit row, window.

<- 21A

I forget exactly where

sounds dangerously close to me

Damn.

Looks like my CPH-ZRH will be rather empty, while ZRH-BCN is rather crowded.

So hopefully people won't notice.

ruaok: ah yikes. that is another good reason not to bring any expensive electronics.

ruaok: https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicBrainz_Summit... - Sunday?

well, this is more about not carrying them around needlessly.

Freso: read more, ask less.

ruaok: sure. but I'm going to be walking around barcelona for quite a bit on thursday and monday