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CatCat
ircloud is pretty sexy
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ruaok
ianmcorvidae: your luggage was found. again.
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ruaok
they will deliver it between 3 and 6.
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ianmcorvidae
okay
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CatCat
that's good atleast
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ianmcorvidae
do we know it's a different bag than the last one?
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CatCat
oh they fake found it?
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ruaok
esta españa. no sé. :)
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CatCat
before
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ianmcorvidae
ah :)
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ianmcorvidae
CatCat: yeah, the bag that came yesterday that wasn't mine :)
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CatCat
heh
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CatCat
btw. ircloud I just read up about wtf it actually IS?
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CatCat
it
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CatCat
is
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CatCat
AWESOME
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nikki_
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nikki_
hasn't been touched for a while, like :P
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ruaok
ianmcorvidae: jerry got home to his hotel an hour ago. :)
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ianmcorvidae
hah
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uk
Oh, those Scandinavians ...
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reosarevok
lol
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noobie
hm picard is not writing the TLEN id3 tag?
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luks
what would it contain?
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noobie
the length
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luks
(no, it does not)
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luks
which length?
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noobie
it seems
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noobie
it's probably 2.4 only
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noobie
of the track
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luks
still not answering my question :)
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luks
of the file? of the track in MB? of the recording in MB?
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luks
anything else than the length of the file would be wrong
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luks
but saving the length of the file to tag seems useless
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luks
especially since mutagen can't read the length correctly for vbr files
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noobie
milliseconds, represented as a numeric string.
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noobie
not that i think it's necessary to write the TLEN tag,i just wondered...
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luks
picard does not know the length of the audio file
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luks
it knows a number it thinks is a good estimate of the length
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luks
but it doesn't bother making sure it has the correct length
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noobie
oh,alright
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luks
with some formats it knows the exact length, because they have it in the header
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luks
but mp3 is not such format, you need to decode the audio to get the length
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luks
which is why things like the Xing header or TLEN exist
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luks
but picard is not the best place to write such tags
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noobie
not unless it calculates the length
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noobie
it's not really important to have that tag
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noobie
so it's quite resonable picard does not touch it
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luks
there are many tools to write xing/info headers to mp3 files
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luks
they are more useful than the tlen tag
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nikki_
luks: we're talking about genres, if you have any comments :P
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luks
I'd just have people look at how soundunwound handled genres, which I think was the best implementation, but the site no longer exists :)
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nikki_
yeah :/
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nikki_
maybe you can describe it?
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ianmcorvidae
amazed 'fixme' isn't a top tag :P
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nikki_
hm, or maybe there's an archived version of the site
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luks
this regarding assigning genres to entities, they had three categories: "Mainly", "Quite" and "Hints of"
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luks
each could contain multiple genres
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nikki_
were the genres from a fixed list or just freeform?
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luks
fixed list
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luks
I wanted to have something like soundunwound but with connections between the genres
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luks
maybe even the same three categories for sub-genres
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nikki_
where would you get the list from?
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luks
no idea, discogs and wikipedia would be probably the starting point
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luks
I wanted most genres to have a wikipedia page
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CatCat
personally what we need to do is *define* what we mean with genre x, before wecan say "hat things are genre x"
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luks
that's why we would link to wikipedia
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luks
we don't need to reinvent everything
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CatCat
yes
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uk
Would be attach genres to artists, release( group)s, recordings, works?
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ianmcorvidae
unclear just yet; luks, your thoughts?
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luks
I was originally thinking only of recordings
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luks
and aggregate for the other entities
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CatCat
yes
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luks
but that's probably not going to work, because people are lazy
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CatCat
but mb editors are not lazy
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luks
well, *I* do not see myself adding genre to every single recording I have in my collection
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luks
unless it's automated somehow
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luks
the advantage of having genres on artists is that they can represent something different than the aggregate genres from recordings
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luks
for example, it can be the "current" genre
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luks
if the artist switched styles over time
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CatCat
yes
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CatCat
or have a time line with attached genres (and other stuff)
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uk
Like, country ...
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CatCat
what
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CatCat
eeeeever
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luks
Review Board has some very aggresive keyboard shortcuts
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luks
can't even type in the text fields
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luks
e.g. pressing 'a' takes me to the diff, even if I'm editing a text
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