#musicbrainz-devel

warp: re 'only' 30 minutes - that build on master didn't have html5 tests enabled

i just want to get a release out

ocharles: ah, ok

warp: also, just to fill you in on the relationship stuff (and give myself a paper trail :P) - you have to relate between trees because: if there is a relationship AB between A and B, then presumably A should link to the latest version of B (the latest name etc) and vica versa

but if you change A -> A', then you would also need to change the relationship AB to A'B, which would have to be done by changing B too.

So basically, for every entity with relationships, any edit now also changes all the end points (if you link between trees)

if however you have 2 relationships, A|B| and |A|B (where |x| means just the MBID of |x|) then you don't have these problems

and |A||B| ? :)

ianmcorvidae, ocharles: I've patched edit 19433467, so modbot should be happy again for a little bit.

warp: |A||B| doesn't have the information to say who owns the relationship

(there would be no way to delete the relationship in a specific version)

ocharles: yes, that would be the point of doing it that way. so the relationship is versioned seperately from the artists it relates.

ocharles: I can think of various reasons why that wouldn't work very well, but I'm curious if you gave it any thought.

Can take my labtop to Spain and back no problem, then next day starts fucking up

you having problems as well freso

ijabz: I've had problems since Thursday :)

On mine neither trackpad nor mouse work properly, using a mac without a keyboard is really difficult

whats your issue ?

Of course i meant using with only a keyboard

I think the issue is that my partition numbers have gotten rearranged.

So it can't find /dev/sda5, which is the Linux install's root partition.

Plus, it can't boot from USB and apparently refuses to boot from CD/DVD too.

Which makes it hard to get stuff fixed. :)

don't all linux distros use uuids for mounts now?

And it seems to lose connection with keyboard between boot loader and system startup.

luks: They can.

morning

ocharles: arrived at the office?

freso: aha! so my hypothesis was correct

warp: yea

ocharles: I've no idea. I still haven't been able to access the file system to try and fiddle with the identifiers.

warp: oh, yes, relationships have been considered for separate versioning. I don't think it would (or could) work very well

ocharles: I'm currently downloading a FUSE and ext2/3 driver (which will hopefully allow mounting ext4 too, as the ext4 driver for Mac/FUSE apparently isn't working too well).

ocharles: If that won't work, I'll do as ianmcorvidae suggested and install virtalbox and try via that.

ocharles: ok, good :)

isn't that what I suggested on friday? :)

warp: we should release, anyway

ocharles, the British Cassandra :p

?

ocharles: yes.

reosarevok: yes, I won't be able to do that

:(

Is there anyone in last.fm we could ask for it?

ocharles: alright, I'm on lenny, ready for releasing.

reosarevok: I don't know, need to release now

sure

warp: k, go ahead

I took astro out.

ocharles: Heh. It might've been you. :)

warp astro done

ocharles: astro back, pingu out.

hmm, we'll need to sort the new DBDefs out at some point too..

ah, right.

you don't want to do that now?

i didn't on astro

lets just do the update, and then I'll look into it

ok, np

pingu done

well, it should probably be now, otherwise we'll get to restart all those servers

ianmcorvidae: which is fine.

any release page with an ASIN linked crashes without fixing DBDefs

that's less fine

oh? that's not good :)

yes, because the relevant function takes an argument, and we're changing DBDefs::BLAH to DBDefs->BLAH, and understandably it can't do much with HASH(0xWHATEVER)

well, i'll go in and try and fix the DBDefs now

just sticking a 'shift' at the start of the two relevant functions fixes it, or adding 'use DBDefs::Default;' and commenting out the two

ocharles: still on pingu, right?

pingu is 'done', but I guess I should fix the DBDefs first

(AWS_ASSOCIATE_ID and COVER_ART_ARCHIVE_UPLOAD_PREFIXER are the two)

ocharles: I'm going to wait with bringing anything up/down until you say so :)

meh, I can't edit that file via tramp

warp: done with astro

pingu

cool

ocharles: pingu back, and I've taken astro out again.

warp: astro restarted

ok, asterix is out

warp: ok, all done there too

great, all back.

things are looking good just clicking around a bit.

ocharles: ok, I'm going to run off to babysit the neighbours' kids for 15 minutes or so. if something did break, call/text me. I should be back soonish.

ocharles has changed the topic to: tropical week! | http://musicbrainz.org/#devel | Meeting: reviews, test/build times (ocharles)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6nKwFMjtfs \o/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTD_OoayhuQ \o/

Meh. The FUSE thing is working very smoothly. I think I'll just go straight to the virtualbox to try and sort things.

If nothing else, that'll at least actually give me a Linux environment...

reosarevok: That's not very tropical though...

Well, depends on how cold the place the space invaders come is, it might feel tropical to them!

But ok, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEpSFOibJho \o/

Welcome home!

Er, back.

warp: we need to restart servers; I've fixed all the DBDefs though

otra vez?

hm?

:)

yes

because you two only got one of the two things that needed fixing :) so cover art uploads are broken

ah

trying to upload to HASH(0xBLAH).s3.archive.org doesn't do so well

alright, let me know if you need me to drive proxies again, etc..

fix is just commenting out the line and using the default from DBDefs::Default, of course, but the servers need restarting

once ocharles is back I'll get him to do the actual restarts

ok

warp: ok, ready

ocharles: yay!

ocharles: shall I take out servers again?

yea

alright

astro is out

ianmcorvidae: https://www.facebook.com/events/378324358915885/

cool, I can even see it with my non-account

warp: done

for anyone in London, if you'd like to join this tech talk (free drinks too!) tomorrow evening, the RSVP email it on the FB page.

ocharles: astro back, pingu out.

ruaok: I've retweeted that from MHD etc

But I'll try to remember to post it myself in the evening too

reosarevok: ah, great.

MTF and MHD tweeted about it this morning, yeah

warp: ok, done

ocharles: pingu back, asterix out

I've been meaning to ask this for ages. On my server, when I visit the web page I get a sidebar down the right hand side with loads of (I assume) developer related stuff.

I can dismiss it, but is there any way to stop it coming up forever?

something in DBDefs with CATALYST in the name iirc

warp: ok, done