#musicbrainz-devel

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      • Freso
        Most children have multiple parents...

        • 2015-03-10 06950, 2015

      • alastairp
        but that's stored in musicbrainz as multiple relationships

        • 2015-03-10 06955, 2015

      • Freso
        Sure.

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      • alastairp
        ok, that's all

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      • reosarevok
        alastairp: he's asking whether a class where a teacher had more than one student should count

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      • reosarevok
        Or it should be just for one-to-one lessons

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      • Freso
        ^

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      • alastairp
        right - so, taking a 1 day lesson (for simplicity), if there were 3 relationships between a teacher and different students, you don't really know if they happened at the same time, or just during the same day

        • 2015-03-10 06914, 2015

      • Freso
        Sure.

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      • alastairp
        my intuition is that to do something for a duration that makes sense to codify as a relationship, it will probably always be 1-1

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      • Freso
        If they happened at the same time, it should possibly be recorded as an Event though.

        • 2015-03-10 06923, 2015

      • Freso
        Sure, it will. But I'm not talking about codifying.

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      • Freso
        I'm talking about STYLE guidelining.

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      • alastairp
        and while there is a possibility of a 1-n masterclass for 1 day or 1 week, the chances of it happening is very low

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      • Freso
        Really? I've been to a couple.

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      • alastairp
        ok. I don't know much about the policies of STYLE for things that could happen but are unlikely

        • 2015-03-10 06929, 2015

      • alastairp
        right, but as I said for a relationship that makes sense to codify

        • 2015-03-10 06929, 2015

      • Freso
        And I've been to plenty of non-masterclass workshops with 10+ people to one teacher.

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      • alastairp
        to actually say that relationship happened

        • 2015-03-10 06943, 2015

      • alastairp
        I mean, this is not a calendar

        • 2015-03-10 06956, 2015

      • alastairp
        this is a formal relationship between a teacher and student

        • 2015-03-10 06909, 2015

      • alastairp
        I'm not saying that these workshops don't happen

        • 2015-03-10 06931, 2015

      • alastairp
        I'm saying that the chances of them being valuable enough to represent as a teacher relationship is tiny

        • 2015-03-10 06936, 2015

      • Freso
        Sure. And if you're at a workshop, there's still a formal relationship between the students and the teacher, it's just for a shorter duration.

        • 2015-03-10 06920, 2015

      • Freso
        FWIW, most "creative people" I know (mostly dancers and musicians) usually list "People I've received lessons from" on their CVs. They add everything there. A one hour workshop? Sure, add it!

        • 2015-03-10 06953, 2015

      • Freso
        Also, it is not a calendar, but keeping track of when someone studied under someone etc. can be used to figure out changes in style etc. "Guitarist X did these crazy things when he was in his mid-20's, but then suddenly changed style around their 29th birthday."

        • 2015-03-10 06913, 2015

      • Freso
        Those changes can happen just as well from short, one-off workshops, as they can from long-term 1-1 engagements.

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      • Freso
        Crud. I need to run.

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      • acampbell
        Hi guys -- wonder if anyone's available to help me out with a problem installing MusicBrainz server on CentOS 6

        • 2015-03-10 06903, 2015

      • acampbell
        I seem to be missing some Perl dependencies

        • 2015-03-10 06952, 2015

      • acampbell
        I get this error when I try and start the server

        • 2015-03-10 06953, 2015

      • acampbell
        http://pastebin.com/MKt7H4ep

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      • acampbell
        I got it now.

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      • acampbell
        How do I make the MusicBrainz server stop running in "development" mode?

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      • acampbell
        disregard - once again, solved it :P

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      • acampbell
        Running into some different problems now trying to get it to run under apache

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      • acampbell
        Alright, I seem to have everything running now, just apache is taking 12 seconds to respond with the page. Any ideas?

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      • chirlu`
        MBJenkins is missing …

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      • KRSCuan
        bitmap: Those hover bubbles for external links look quite ugly and inconsistent with the rest. I take it this is only halfway down the road?

        • 2015-03-10 06933, 2015

      • KRSCuan
        The URL also extends outside of the bubble for some long ones.

        • 2015-03-10 06919, 2015

      • KRSCuan
        http://i.imgur.com/Nxcj4vd.png

        • 2015-03-10 06952, 2015

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      • Gentlecat
        alastairp: https://i.imgur.com/3W3w5SX.png is this fixed by https://github.com/metabrainz/acousticbrainz-serv…

        • 2015-03-10 06956, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        I just added a release and submitting tracks from it

        • 2015-03-10 06938, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        though they have these tags. that's from someone else then

        • 2015-03-10 06945, 2015

      • reosarevok
        KRSCuan: you might want to add a ticket for the too-big-URLs thing

        • 2015-03-10 06919, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        and that border looks fine in chrome

        • 2015-03-10 06923, 2015

      • reosarevok
        It's halfway down the road I imagine in that we want to get rid of all those bubbles which mean the forms proper take only less than half the screen space, but it's happening bit by bit

        • 2015-03-10 06952, 2015

      • reosarevok
        But I'd imagine any improvements to the already-changed bits should just be sent in as tickets

        • 2015-03-10 06900, 2015

      • reosarevok
        (of course I'm not bitmap :p)

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      • nikki
        alastairp: it would be a good idea to report that anchor in doc urls thing

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      • alastairp
        Gentlecat: caused by

        • 2015-03-10 06953, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        right :)

        • 2015-03-10 06900, 2015

      • alastairp
        that is, if a file has no tag you get 500

        • 2015-03-10 06939, 2015

      • alastairp
        I decided that having 0-4 files showing when it says “5” is better than showin an error page :)

        • 2015-03-10 06900, 2015

      • alastairp
        I guess we should either select for non-null in the sql, or select more than 5 and chop it down in python

        • 2015-03-10 06901, 2015

      • alastairp
        nikki: ok

        • 2015-03-10 06902, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        of course

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      • alastairp
        except Xavier came into my office and said “I’m trying to show someone ab and the website is broken"

        • 2015-03-10 06932, 2015

      • alastairp
        so I had to do a bit of a quick fix ;)

        • 2015-03-10 06943, 2015

      • Gentlecat
        heh

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      • VJ
        hi guys

        • 2015-03-10 06929, 2015

      • VJ
        i am trying to load the musicbrainz data locally

        • 2015-03-10 06934, 2015

      • VJ
        but getting following error

        • 2015-03-10 06958, 2015

      • VJ
        Can't locate MooseX/Singleton.pm in @INC (@INC contains:

        • 2015-03-10 06922, 2015

      • VJ
        anyone had this issue?

        • 2015-03-10 06924, 2015

      • nikki
        iirc there's something in INSTALL about that

        • 2015-03-10 06917, 2015

      • nikki
        but maybe I'm thinking of something else, not sure

        • 2015-03-10 06928, 2015

      • VJ
        hmm..

        • 2015-03-10 06944, 2015

      • VJ
        i just followed the documentation

        • 2015-03-10 06920, 2015

      • VJ
        if i am trying to run script as root, getting other exception

        • 2015-03-10 06930, 2015

      • VJ
        DBI connect('dbname=template1','postgres',...) failed: FATAL: Peer authentication failed for user "postgres"

        • 2015-03-10 06906, 2015

      • VJ
        any idea where i can get the baseline schema for musicbrainz db

        • 2015-03-10 06949, 2015

      • VJ
        if i use mbslave its complaining about the missing columns

        • 2015-03-10 06902, 2015

      • VJ
        since i have the old baseline schema

        • 2015-03-10 06921, 2015

      • derwin
        why not use a VM?

        • 2015-03-10 06923, 2015

      • VJ
        in the mbslave project

        • 2015-03-10 06928, 2015

      • VJ
        VM?

        • 2015-03-10 06938, 2015

      • derwin
        everyone who comes in here trying to do the manual way seems to have endless problems

        • 2015-03-10 06943, 2015

      • VJ
        Virtual Machine

        • 2015-03-10 06901, 2015

      • VJ
        yea thats right.. :)

        • 2015-03-10 06944, 2015

      • nikki
        we get plenty of people with problems with the vm too, because it hasn't been updated for ages

        • 2015-03-10 06901, 2015

      • ujjwal
        VJ: regarding FATAL: Peer authentication failed for user "postgres" error, you need to update your pg_hba.conf file

        • 2015-03-10 06922, 2015

      • VJ
        yea its updated

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      • VJ
        local all all trust

        • 2015-03-10 06912, 2015

      • nikki
        did you restart postgres?

        • 2015-03-10 06943, 2015

      • VJ
        yea did that too

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      • VJ
        now am trying using mbslave

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      • VJ
        getting this error

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      • VJ
        ./mbslave-import.py /tmp/dumps/mbdump-cdstubs.tar.bz2

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      • VJ
        psycopg2.DataError: extra data after last expected column CONTEXT: COPY artist, line 1: "805192 8972b1c1-6482-4750-b51f-596d2edea8b1 WIK▲N WIK▲N \N \N \N \N \N \N \N \N \N 0 2011-05-17..."

        • 2015-03-10 06943, 2015

      • VJ
        am sure this is because the table altered and some column missing/added

        • 2015-03-10 06900, 2015

      • VJ
        but dont know where i can get the schema structure latest

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      • reosarevok
        alastairp: there you go

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      • alastairp
        \o/

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      • alastairp
        thanks!

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      • alastairp
        has rafael emailed you?

        • 2015-03-10 06917, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Not recently, that I've seen

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      • alastairp
        right. I’m trying to remember what he had a question about. I didn’t know how to answer it, at least

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      • alastairp
        it was to do with chinese people

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      • alastairp
        if you have a name in chinese, and a sortname in pinyin with a comma

        • 2015-03-10 06915, 2015

      • alastairp
        should you have an alias which is the pinyin without the comma (and names reversed)?

        • 2015-03-10 06937, 2015

      • alastairp
        and what should you set the locale to? because it’s not “english” - some of these artists have an english name which is different

        • 2015-03-10 06952, 2015

      • alastairp
        and it’s not chinese

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      • reosarevok
        nikki ^

        • 2015-03-10 06947, 2015

      • reosarevok
        That's more your thing

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      • Freso
        alastairp: There's always the option of not setting the locale.

        • 2015-03-10 06950, 2015

      • alastairp
        yeah, I saw that

        • 2015-03-10 06924, 2015

      • alastairp
        one thing I’d like to be able to do though is import it into our app, and having an indicator/attribute would be nice to select the correct alias :)