#musicbrainz-devel

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      • alastairp
        hmm. subscribing to artists via api
      • 2015-03-19 07833, 2015

      • alastairp
        that sounds nice. a pity you can't do it
      • 2015-03-19 07819, 2015

      • alastairp
        the subscribe url takes a rowid :(
      • 2015-03-19 07826, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Well, I imagine it'll be semi-doable once this collections for everyone thing is out
      • 2015-03-19 07840, 2015

      • reosarevok
        (but in a less ideal way)
      • 2015-03-19 07851, 2015

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      • reosarevok
        Hmm. That's the only thing stopping it? I wonder how hard it'd be to change :p
      • 2015-03-19 07806, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Maybe the guy can patch it himself
      • 2015-03-19 07809, 2015

      • alastairp
        yeah
      • 2015-03-19 07821, 2015

      • alastairp
        well, if it took an mbid, you could just curl the requests
      • 2015-03-19 07839, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Yeah, that's what I meant
      • 2015-03-19 07807, 2015

      • reosarevok
        (I mean, "you could just send them all in a row" but I suspect that means the same thing :p)
      • 2015-03-19 07829, 2015

      • alastairp
        yeah
      • 2015-03-19 07829, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Are you answering the mail? :)
      • 2015-03-19 07835, 2015

      • alastairp
        yeah, I'll do it
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      • alastairp
        though I'm not sure we can say much more than "if you can find the rowids you can send http requests"
      • 2015-03-19 07819, 2015

      • alastairp
        as you said, it should just be a very small change to make the site support mbids, right?
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      • reosarevok
        I'd hope so, but I don't know what the change would be :)
      • 2015-03-19 07853, 2015

      • reosarevok
        bitmap might know better when he's around
      • 2015-03-19 07857, 2015

      • reosarevok
        (or ian if he's still around)
      • 2015-03-19 07819, 2015

      • reosarevok
        I mean, we must have a way to resolve mbids to rowids :p
      • 2015-03-19 07826, 2015

      • chirlu`
        Retrieve the page and take it from the subscribe (or add-to-merge) URL?
      • 2015-03-19 07813, 2015

      • alastairp
        lol
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      • alastairp
        I'll recommend it
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      • reosarevok
        As a hack I guess it'd work
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      • reosarevok
        But we probably should try to support MBIDs in more places anyway :p
      • 2015-03-19 07809, 2015

      • chirlu`
        Well, certainly.
      • 2015-03-19 07833, 2015

      • alastairp
        i'll open a ticket for it too
      • 2015-03-19 07838, 2015

      • alastairp
        does it make sense for a wish-list ticket to be to subscribe via the api?
      • 2015-03-19 07807, 2015

      • chirlu`
        Not really, because subscriptions are going away and collections already have this, IIRC.
      • 2015-03-19 07851, 2015

      • alastairp
        ahhh, right
      • 2015-03-19 07859, 2015

      • chirlu`
        There is MBS-7732 BTW, I could generalize it to not be about forms exclusively.
      • 2015-03-19 07800, 2015

      • mb-chat-logger
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      • chirlu`
        But also about UI links.
      • 2015-03-19 07840, 2015

      • alastairp
        nah, I think it's reasonable to do it on a case-by-case basis
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      • alastairp
        otherwise that ticket would be huge
      • 2015-03-19 07807, 2015

      • alastairp
        ok, I didn't know about the disappearance of subscriptions. what's the timeline on that?
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      • alastairp checks that it's not in this schemachange
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      • reosarevok
        Well, the idea is to eventually merge them with collections
      • 2015-03-19 07841, 2015

      • reosarevok
        So, this schema change allows collections of any entity type
      • 2015-03-19 07845, 2015

      • chirlu`
        It is in this schema change, more or less.
      • 2015-03-19 07853, 2015

      • alastairp
        oh. right
      • 2015-03-19 07813, 2015

      • reosarevok
        The collection subscription stuff needs improving for that to be a good enough substitute - dunno how much of that is already on JesseW's patch if anything
      • 2015-03-19 07825, 2015

      • alastairp
        right
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      • alastairp
        but does that ticket also implicitly (or explicitly) say that we're going to move subscriptions to a collection and tick the subscribe box on them and move notifications to collections instead?
      • 2015-03-19 07814, 2015

      • chirlu`
        The ticket for that is MBS-8282.
      • 2015-03-19 07814, 2015

      • mb-chat-logger
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      • alastairp
        ah!!
      • 2015-03-19 07824, 2015

      • chirlu`
        But the necessary schema changes for this are MBS-8004 and MBS-8287.
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      • mb-chat-logger
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      • mb-chat-logger
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      • chirlu`
        With that, we can enable it without further schema changes, and drop the then-unused old subscription tables when convenient.
      • 2015-03-19 07833, 2015

      • alastairp
        right
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      • JesseW
        thanks for sticking MBS-8004 in. Sorry I didn't realize it needed the fix-version attached.
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      • mb-chat-logger
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      • chirlu`
        Yeah, we need it, too.
      • 2015-03-19 07823, 2015

      • JesseW
        Yeah, I should have ping'ed about it on Tuesday once I read the meeting transcript and noticed it wasn't in there.
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      • JesseW
        Also, is there a wiki page for "Schema change process", and is the Fix-Version and 60-day limit listed there?
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      • chirlu`
        I don’t think so.
      • 2015-03-19 07812, 2015

      • chirlu`
        The fix version was mentioned in the meeting from two weeks ago or so, but it was probably just one line.
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      • chirlu`
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      • chirlu`
        <ruaok> everyone move your tickets into that before the next meeting.
      • 2015-03-19 07858, 2015

      • chirlu`
        JesseW: The PR is now contaminated with some unrelated changes from the beta branch.
      • 2015-03-19 07822, 2015

      • JesseW
        argh -- *that* mention! I thought it referred to the schema-change BRANCH (which my PR was already targeted at) not the JIRA fix-version. :-(
      • 2015-03-19 07850, 2015

      • JesseW
        chirlu`: hm -- let me fix that
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      • chirlu`
        And the %ENTITIES changes, while related, should be in the UI branch.
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      • jj_
        hi all
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      • JesseW
        ok, I see what you mean. cool, will have a fix ASAP
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      • jj_
        I have a problem importing the OVA file for VMWARE, I am using ESXI 5.1.0, It starts to import and after 3% is shows something like ''Failed to deploy OVF package: The request was aborted: The request was canceled" in log files I see: "Could not find file : /vmfs/volumes/4c5952d1-253861ea-6a27-f4ce467e6e14/dbmb2.interianie/dbmb2.interianie-aux.xml.tmp."
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      • reosarevok
        chirlu`: bitmap's release info in inline search reminds me - did you have something to show more info for artists in there?
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      • reosarevok would love to see dates/area info :)
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      • chirlu`
        Yes, but it’s far from a finished product.
      • 2015-03-19 07842, 2015

      • chirlu`
        Mostly, I want to show the same data for all entity types, as far as possible.
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      • reosarevok
        Hmm. Unsure what that means :)
      • 2015-03-19 07812, 2015

      • reosarevok
        (different types have different kinds of data after all)
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      • chirlu`
        Name (Disamb.) (Prim.Alias) // Type by ArtistCredit, DateRange, Area // ExtraInformation
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      • chirlu`
        Obviously, non-applicable items will be left out.
      • 2015-03-19 07806, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Oh, ok
      • 2015-03-19 07843, 2015

      • chirlu`
        Some individual differences are necessary, e.g. for most entity types, DateRange will be years only. But not for events.
      • 2015-03-19 07857, 2015

      • chirlu`
        So, e.g.: John Doe (percussionist) // Person, 1909-1999, United Kingdom
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      • reosarevok
        hmm
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      • Freso
        Why not use full known date range for all applicable entities?
      • 2015-03-19 07836, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Would you show specific area, or go up to the country somehow?
      • 2015-03-19 07851, 2015

      • chirlu`
        a) screen estate, b) won’t be needed for identifying the right one
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      • reosarevok
        Freso: I expect it'd take a lot of space for little benefit in most cases (dunno about releases though :) )
      • 2015-03-19 07825, 2015

      • chirlu`
        The specific area with containing areas.
      • 2015-03-19 07838, 2015

      • chirlu`
        Yeah, releases are special, too.
      • 2015-03-19 07814, 2015

      • reosarevok
        Hmm. Would that fit?
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      • reosarevok
        (if it does though, that sounds nice :) )
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      • chirlu`
        Line breaks are possible, we have them already, so if the string is that long …
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