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      • mb-chat-logger
        New post: blog: Code of Conduct overhaul <http://blog.musicbrainz.org/2015/02/19/code-of-conduct-overhaul/>
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      • ruaok
        comment on the blog post:
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      • ruaok
        > For me, the actual CoC is OK. AFAIK and as you write "[it] describes how members of the MusicBrainz community SHOULD interact", a CoC is not mandatory to use...
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      • ruaok
        Uhm, no. A CoC means you *must* act that way.
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      • alastairp
        ruaok: rpi2 is getting more and more out of stock. Now 8 april. I'm going to get one now
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      • ruaok
        get 2 please.
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      • ruaok
        yeah, I noticed the same
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      • alastairp
        ruaok: ordered
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      • ruaok
        \ø/
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      • ruaok
        reosarevok_: +1 to your blog post comment.
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      • ruaok
        alastairp: was this the box you were so disappointed with? https://gramofon.com/index.html
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      • alastairp
        ruaok: yes
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      • ruaok
        remind me what you issues were?
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      • alastairp
        no shell, serial, just broke one day and had to get it replaced, wifi drops all connections and forces reauth every 20 minutes or so if you use it as an AP
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      • ruaok
        I really need a solution like this.
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      • alastairp
        I suspect if you /just/ used it to play music, and didn't care about everything else it'd be more or less fine
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      • ruaok
        yeah, that is all I really care about.
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      • alastairp
        note that you can use https://www.mopidy.com/ + pi + your spotify account (or music files on disk)
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      • ruaok
        but the "just broke" is kind a deal breaker.
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      • alastairp
        the only thing that the gramofon gives you is the "spotify connect"
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      • alastairp
        where you can send music/control it from tablet or laptop
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      • ruaok
        which is key, really.
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      • alastairp
        well, mopidy has a web interface, for example
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      • alastairp
        (yes, that'll start music in our lab if you touch stuff :-P)
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      • ruaok grin evilly.
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      • alastairp
        so, I believe it's the cheapest spotify connect device that doesn't have built-in speakers
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      • ruaok
        this might be a perfect application for one of my A+s.
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      • alastairp
        but if you're a nerd, you could probably spin your own
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      • alastairp
        I guess you know about the caveats of 3.5mm audio out on the pis?
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      • ruaok
        do you have a spotify account connected to this instance?
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      • alastairp
        no
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      • alastairp
        but from reading the instructions it seems quite simple
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      • alastairp
        it'll pull in your playlists and turn them into playlists there
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      • ruaok
        I'll try it tonight.
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      • ruaok
        thanks for the link.
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      • alastairp
        and it'll also act as an mpd server (as much as mpd sucks)
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      • alastairp
        let me know how it turns out
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      • alastairp
        I might put it on my pi too, less trouble than the gramofon
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      • alastairp
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      • ruaok
        I might be inclined to do that, but only if I end up hating the UI on the mopidy.
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      • ruaok
        free and open is better than fragile and 50€
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      • alastairp
        oh, I hated the ui on mopidy after about 30 seconds
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      • ruaok
        I'm already not feeling it. :(
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      • ruaok
        thus spotify connect being nice.
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      • alastairp
        yeah, spotify connect is quite nice
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      • ruaok
        really, I'd rather not interface with said device in the first place. just spotify
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      • ruaok
        I will probably give http://www.woutervanwijk.nl/pimusicbox/ a shot.
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      • Freso
        ruaok alastairp: FWIW, there are several different web interfaces for mopidy, not withstanding MPD (web) interfaces. mopidy can also communicate using MPRIS, so MPRIS interfaces will also work. And if you don't like those, 1) they're happy to accept patches :), and 2) mopidy is completely open and you can hack together your own interface.
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      • Freso
        They'd be happy to help with any of those in #mopidy ;)
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      • ruaok
        I just want spotify connect, thats all.
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      • Freso
        (Also, the mopidy devs are MusicBrainz fans, for what *that's* worth. :))
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      • ruaok
        awww
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      • alastairp
        well, I've used 2 interfaces so far, and they both suck. and I don't want to get dragged down the rabbit hole of making my own
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      • alastairp
        I know what that's like
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      • Freso
        True.
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      • alastairp
        all mpd interfaces suck. it's a law of nature
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      • alastairp
        mpris looks interesting. I'm cautiously optimistic, but can't say I have high hopes
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      • Freso
        Anyway, if you have something specific you think don't work with them, at least please file an issue with them so they can improve. :)
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      • alastairp
        nah, I'm good. I'll just keep complaining
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      • Freso
        adamcik: You should tell off alastairp for complaining and not filing tickets. :p
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      • adamcik
        s/adamcik/someone-else/ ? :-)
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      • Freso
        I don't think any of the other mopidy guys are in here? :)
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      • ruaok
        bbiab, os upgrade.
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      • Gentlecat
        ruaok: we need a separate auth implementation for new metabrainz stuff, right?
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      • ruaok
        as opposed to oauth via mb?
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      • Gentlecat
        no musicbrainz oauth
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      • Gentlecat
        yes
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      • ruaok
        we
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      • ruaok
        we'd have to duplicate shit lile passwd recovery and such.
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      • ruaok
        *like
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      • Gentlecat
        yeah, that's why I'm asking
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      • ruaok
        for now, lets go with another oauth implementation.
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      • Gentlecat
        ok
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      • Gentlecat
        are orgs meant to be able to log in as well?
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      • Gentlecat
        or you just give them their access token?
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      • ruaok
        I think they should be able to come back to get the access token without needing help from me.
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      • ruaok
        so, yes, log in is best.
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      • Gentlecat
        and is this new system supposed to replace sign up form for commercial supporters that we implemented before?
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      • Gentlecat
        basically something like "if you want to use our special stuff and be in the list of supporters, sign up"
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      • ruaok
        yea, think so.
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      • alastairp
        ruaok: not sure if it interests you, my friend is doing a discount of some of his electronics stock: https://www.tindie.com/products/arachnidlabs/mini…
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      • ruaok
        local friend?
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      • alastairp
        london
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      • ruaok
        ok, as long as it is the EU.
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      • alastairp
        heh
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      • ruaok
        20EUR shipping is pricey too.
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      • ruaok
        well if not, this thing in actuality will be 120€.
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      • ruaok
        which is not a good idea.
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      • ruaok
        deal
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      • ruaok
        idea either
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      • ruaok
        thanks for the heads up. lemme ponder.
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      • alastairp
        np
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      • alastairp
        (until tomorrow ;)
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      • alastairp
        oh, that’s not listed there - but the 50% off is only until tomorrow
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      • alastairp
        I’m pretty seriously considering the 4 pack kit
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      • ruaok
        only green leds?
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