#musicbrainz-devel

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      • warp
        right.
      • 2009-12-04 33805, 2009

      • aCiD2
        whether that's an argument not to test it actually, I'm not so sure now, heh
      • 2009-12-04 33826, 2009

      • warp
        well, i'm testing $edit->display_data, as it it used in the templates.
      • 2009-12-04 33848, 2009

      • aCiD2
        ok, that makes sense
      • 2009-12-04 33817, 2009

      • warp
        and I really don't know what the best place for the tests would be :)
      • 2009-12-04 33801, 2009

      • warp
        aCiD2: i'll keep doing it in t/edit_artist_edit.t for now. and you can comment on it when it's in review, or we just clean it up and move stuff around later.
      • 2009-12-04 33813, 2009

      • aCiD2
        i'm for the latter
      • 2009-12-04 33824, 2009

      • aCiD2
        we probably need to just get our heads down and finish some stuff now
      • 2009-12-04 33830, 2009

      • warp nods.
      • 2009-12-04 33831, 2009

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      • aCiD2
        warp: in vimperator, how do I edit the current url?
      • 2009-12-04 33801, 2009

      • aCiD2
        currently I just yank it first, the paste it in
      • 2009-12-04 33804, 2009

      • warp
        aCiD2: O or T
      • 2009-12-04 33826, 2009

      • aCiD2
        thanks!
      • 2009-12-04 33841, 2009

      • aCiD2
        quick question, say I'm merging 2 release edits, what names should be displayed when I view the edit?
      • 2009-12-04 33849, 2009

      • aCiD2
        The name of the release groups at the time of merge, or their current name?
      • 2009-12-04 33803, 2009

      • warp
        merging edits? o_O
      • 2009-12-04 33830, 2009

      • aCiD2
        so
      • 2009-12-04 33832, 2009

      • aCiD2
        sorry*
      • 2009-12-04 33834, 2009

      • aCiD2
        merging release groups :P
      • 2009-12-04 33856, 2009

      • warp
        I know the current server shows the current state of a release when viewing an Add Release edit. this sometimes is confusing, but it is also useful.
      • 2009-12-04 33826, 2009

      • aCiD2
        for stuff like add release we show the actually add release data, and when deleting we store the name of it when it was deleted...
      • 2009-12-04 33830, 2009

      • warp
        (i assume your question is a similar situation)
      • 2009-12-04 33833, 2009

      • aCiD2
        but storing the name every where is going to be tricky
      • 2009-12-04 33854, 2009

      • warp nods.
      • 2009-12-04 33820, 2009

      • warp
        aCiD2: do whatever is easiest to implement
      • 2009-12-04 33832, 2009

      • warp
        aCiD2: we can change it later if people complain :)
      • 2009-12-04 33814, 2009

      • aCiD2
        easy for now then :)
      • 2009-12-04 33824, 2009

      • warp
        aCiD2: hm, can we shut up catalyst (i.e. disable all that debug output) in the unittests?
      • 2009-12-04 33842, 2009

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      • aCiD2
        I run my unit tests with CATALYST_DEBUG=0 prove ...
      • 2009-12-04 33850, 2009

      • aCiD2
        cause sometimes it's nice to turn that off and get to the debug output, seems best of both worlds
      • 2009-12-04 33816, 2009

      • warp
        ah, that's probably what I need, yeah.
      • 2009-12-04 33844, 2009

      • warp
        submitted to review, time to relax for a bit.
      • 2009-12-04 33828, 2009

      • aCiD2
        :)
      • 2009-12-04 33828, 2009

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      • aCiD2
        warp++!
      • 2009-12-04 33846, 2009

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      • nikki
        hey ruaok
      • 2009-12-04 33815, 2009

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      • pronik
        ruaok: welcome back!
      • 2009-12-04 33829, 2009

      • pronik
      • 2009-12-04 33801, 2009

      • pronik
        aCiD2: would you care to commit my i18n patch, since you've marked it as shippable? I still don't have commit rights...
      • 2009-12-04 33814, 2009

      • nikki
        haha
      • 2009-12-04 33827, 2009

      • nikki
        pronik: did you update the translations thingy on launchpad?
      • 2009-12-04 33843, 2009

      • pronik
        yes, iirc ;)
      • 2009-12-04 33849, 2009

      • nikki goes to look
      • 2009-12-04 33854, 2009

      • ruaok weaves back
      • 2009-12-04 33802, 2009

      • ruaok
        lol @ image
      • 2009-12-04 33806, 2009

      • pronik
        finally home, ay?
      • 2009-12-04 33807, 2009

      • ruaok
        was that siemens?
      • 2009-12-04 33809, 2009

      • ruaok
        yep.
      • 2009-12-04 33854, 2009

      • nikki wonders why they're called sides instead of sites
      • 2009-12-04 33856, 2009

      • ruaok
        and I got 10 hours of sleep, but no luggage.
      • 2009-12-04 33823, 2009

      • pronik
        nikki: because it's corporate, stupid
      • 2009-12-04 33827, 2009

      • pronik
        s/,// ;)
      • 2009-12-04 33802, 2009

      • pronik
        ruaok: whole luggage is gone? With all the jelly bears?
      • 2009-12-04 33808, 2009

      • ruaok
        yep.
      • 2009-12-04 33811, 2009

      • nikki
        :S
      • 2009-12-04 33815, 2009

      • ruaok
        should arrive today, methinks.
      • 2009-12-04 33821, 2009

      • ruaok
        makes breakfast hard tho. :)
      • 2009-12-04 33823, 2009

      • pronik
        Airlines are even more careless with user data that some IT companies...
      • 2009-12-04 33847, 2009

      • pronik
        user data == luggage
      • 2009-12-04 33819, 2009

      • ruaok nods
      • 2009-12-04 33830, 2009

      • ruaok
        but people care a lot more about physical things.
      • 2009-12-04 33833, 2009

      • pronik
        still, I haven't heard of bigger court action when luggage was gone
      • 2009-12-04 33830, 2009

      • aCiD2
        hi ruaok !
      • 2009-12-04 33834, 2009

      • aCiD2
        pronik: sure thing
      • 2009-12-04 33806, 2009

      • pronik
        thanks
      • 2009-12-04 33828, 2009

      • pronik
        gonna reuse bits of that at work :) And probably fix it to be CPANified soon
      • 2009-12-04 33825, 2009

      • pronik
        but before you commit, do a "make; make install" in po/ directory just in case :)
      • 2009-12-04 33851, 2009

      • aCiD2
        ok
      • 2009-12-04 33853, 2009

      • ruaok
        who hoo! cory just donated $1000. :)
      • 2009-12-04 33816, 2009

      • pronik
        who's cory?
      • 2009-12-04 33836, 2009

      • ruaok
        doctorow. of boingboing.net
      • 2009-12-04 33845, 2009

      • pronik
        oh, cool
      • 2009-12-04 33849, 2009

      • aCiD2
        very nice :)
      • 2009-12-04 33854, 2009

      • ruaok
        he is one of our directors.
      • 2009-12-04 33856, 2009

      • pronik
        haven't thought it'd be *that* Cory...
      • 2009-12-04 33856, 2009

      • aCiD2
        ruaok: when you have some free time I have something to briefly show you
      • 2009-12-04 33857, 2009

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      • pronik
        oh, never ever looked into board configuration :)
      • 2009-12-04 33843, 2009

      • ruaok
        pronik: did you look at google public dns?
      • 2009-12-04 33859, 2009

      • pronik
        using it already at home
      • 2009-12-04 33804, 2009

      • ruaok
        me too. ;)
      • 2009-12-04 33810, 2009

      • pronik
        at last, one IP I can actually memorize
      • 2009-12-04 33823, 2009

      • ruaok
        exactly what I thought.
      • 2009-12-04 33835, 2009

      • ruaok
        that's like an xmas gift from google.
      • 2009-12-04 33855, 2009

      • ruaok
        and that 10 hours before I am headed to the google xmas party. :-D
      • 2009-12-04 33856, 2009

      • pronik
        bye-bye to opendns from me ;)
      • 2009-12-04 33811, 2009

      • aCiD2
        what'sit got over opendns?
      • 2009-12-04 33814, 2009

      • ruaok
        I think that will be for a lot of people. which sucks, because opendns is good people.
      • 2009-12-04 33834, 2009

      • pronik
        memorizable IP and no unneeded extra features
      • 2009-12-04 33838, 2009

      • ruaok
        aCiD2: I'm sure that ip address exists in multiple places around the world. :)
      • 2009-12-04 33856, 2009

      • aCiD2
        the former is really not a selling point for me, it's not like I enter a dns server every day :P
      • 2009-12-04 33825, 2009

      • pronik
        Yeah, but more often than not, I needed to enter some proper DNS to actually be able to do something fast
      • 2009-12-04 33829, 2009

      • pronik
        like at MB summit
      • 2009-12-04 33840, 2009

      • aCiD2
        right
      • 2009-12-04 33849, 2009

      • pronik
        and I could only remember the last two octets of OpenDNS's IP
      • 2009-12-04 33819, 2009

      • pronik
        having to go to the website each time sucks, especially if you don't have a dns at all
      • 2009-12-04 33827, 2009

      • aCiD2
        ruaok: http://musicbrainz.onjira.com/browse/MBS-21 was what I wanted to show you anyway, (musicbrainz:musicbrainz) to login
      • 2009-12-04 33856, 2009

      • pronik
        aCiD2: trac replacement?
      • 2009-12-04 33821, 2009

      • aCiD2
        well, i'm not proposing replacing trac, but ruaok was saying that trac doesn't do the job well enough for project management
      • 2009-12-04 33834, 2009

      • aCiD2
        I find jira more powerful than trac with it's linking abilities and stuff
      • 2009-12-04 33855, 2009

      • pronik
        from what I gathered from other projects using jira is that it's a giant mess too
      • 2009-12-04 33807, 2009

      • pronik
        probably looking better at first sight
      • 2009-12-04 33824, 2009

      • aCiD2
        i know boo use it to great success
      • 2009-12-04 33802, 2009

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      • pronik
        depends on what ruaok actually needs
      • 2009-12-04 33821, 2009

      • ruaok
        we need project management software.
      • 2009-12-04 33822, 2009

      • nikki__ weeps
      • 2009-12-04 33830, 2009

      • ruaok
        in addition to a bug tracker.
      • 2009-12-04 33806, 2009

      • aCiD2
        wtf, someone bought me cd while I was checking out
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      • pronik
        "we need a SQL database" (c) pointy-haired boss ;)
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      • aCiD2
        that's a first
      • 2009-12-04 33814, 2009

      • aCiD2
        my*
      • 2009-12-04 33828, 2009

      • ruaok gives pronik the evil eye
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      • pronik
        no, seriously, what features do you need?
      • 2009-12-04 33812, 2009

      • ruaok
        task dependencies. critical path. milestones.
      • 2009-12-04 33830, 2009

      • pronik
        critical path == bugs with higher priority?
      • 2009-12-04 33836, 2009

      • aCiD2
        jira gives you 2 of them, trac gives you 1... I don't know anything that gives critical paths, but I imagine Jira can generate them
      • 2009-12-04 33848, 2009

      • pronik
        trac also has ticket deps
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      • pronik
        but it all sounds like bugzilla to me
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      • ruaok
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      • aCiD2
        yea, I haven't seen how well trac handles it
      • 2009-12-04 33838, 2009

      • ruaok
        pronik: no, but tracking software has a different goal from project management software.
      • 2009-12-04 33848, 2009

      • ruaok
        s/but/bug/
      • 2009-12-04 33818, 2009

      • pronik
        fogbugz? Even more proprietary than jira, I know, but it could be a proper fit
      • 2009-12-04 33820, 2009

      • ruaok goes to hunt down some food.
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      • ruaok
        stop thinking in terms of bug tracking.
      • 2009-12-04 33847, 2009

      • ruaok
        start thinking in terms of project management.
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      • aCiD2
        i haven't done critical paths for a few years now, heh
      • 2009-12-04 33845, 2009

      • pronik
        ruaok: it combines the two, but I'll shut up now, since I've gotta get home now and I also not a project manager to argue about this stuff :)
      • 2009-12-04 33848, 2009

      • ruaok
        its not something you "do". its a feature that comes out of tracking tasks in such a tool.
      • 2009-12-04 33811, 2009

      • ruaok
        Ill take a look then, thanks.
      • 2009-12-04 33803, 2009

      • ruaok
        food!
      • 2009-12-04 33859, 2009

      • warp
        aCiD2: "(so no whitespace after the call)". sorry, old gnu-style habit. i'll try not to do that in the context of musicbrainz.
      • 2009-12-04 33831, 2009

      • aCiD2
        ah ok :)
      • 2009-12-04 33841, 2009

      • aCiD2
        it's only really minor, it would be nice if we had a perltidy configuration to use
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      • NXISGOD
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      • NXISGOD
        slightly newer DMG for picard
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      • NXISGOD
        (since yesterday...)
      • 2009-12-04 33820, 2009

      • NXISGOD
        tested for snow leopard and works perfectly... although you cannot scan DRMed files.
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