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      • navap
        How do I get more information showing up in the server console log? I want prints and warns showing up
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      • navap
        I tried enabling CATALYST_DEBUG but that just shows that annoying front end sidebar
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        Looks like I can resort to using dies :/
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      • TheoDickson
        Hi all. I was here last week asking about setting up a local copy of the server as VM, you were all so helpful and I managed to do that as well as point the python API towards it. Now I can start gathering data for my project without the rate limit so thanks very much! however my scripts need to work off of a comprehensive list of all the recording IDs in the database, and I'm struggling to figure out how I might obtain this. All the method
      • 2014-03-31 09016, 2014

      • TheoDickson
        I'm sure there is a much more efficient way to obtain this than using the API, but I don't really know how to operate inside the VM terminal.
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      • ruaok
        TheoDickson: do you speal SQL?
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      • TheoDickson
        ruaok: that is indeed the problem, I do not.
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      • ruaok
        that seems a bit of a blocker for this project, no?
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      • ruaok
        do you know how to use SSH?
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      • TheoDickson
        Well I'm eager to learn whatever is necessary, I didn't even know any python three weeks ago when i started but now I have loads of scripts written to do all sort of stuff, which I've tested on smaller lists of IDs. so I only really need enough SQL to just get the list of IDs. and yes yes sort of.
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      • ruaok
        select gid from recording;
      • 2014-03-31 09050, 2014

      • ruaok
        :)
      • 2014-03-31 09013, 2014

      • ruaok
        but just the recording IDs without any other information isn't likely going to yield anything useful.
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      • ruaok
        hey, this is relevant to your current interests: http://xkcd.com/1349/
      • 2014-03-31 09045, 2014

      • TheoDickson
        Once I have a list of IDs I can do all sorts of stuff via the python API. I understand that it will probably take much longer to execute that if I learnt to directly extract data from the database using SQL but I have plenty of time. I may end up just trying to learn SQL anyway though!
      • 2014-03-31 09031, 2014

      • ruaok
        if you ask for the list of ids, you'll have 15M of them. most of them irrelephant to what you're doing.
      • 2014-03-31 09044, 2014

      • TheoDickson
        haha that is my life right now
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      • TheoDickson
        I know... i have a python script that takes a list of IDs, grabs the artist list for each, does nothing if that list is of length 1 and otherwise appends a dict entry to a 'collaborations list' that looks like {songid: [artistlist]}
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      • TheoDickson
        so then I would have a comprehensive list of all the collaborations.
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      • olaf_
        where is the list of forbidden chars in filenames? the '?' shouldnt be there, picard 1.3dev get it wrong. 1.2 or whatever was ok. http://musicbrainz.org/release/a9f43acb-3c16-4b45…
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      • olaf_
        picard 1.2 as in ' .flac file was tagged/written in May 2012'
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      • reosarevok looks confused
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      • reosarevok
        Isn't PICARD-576 already perfectly doable with taggerscript?
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      • Mineo
        it would be if there was a way to access the track number of each medium, which I don't think there is
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      • Mineo
        but then again, the proper way to fix it is to not buy shitty devices :P
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      • Mineo
        it's not like multi-disc releases and id3 were just invented last year
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      • chirlu`
        Oy, but it’s a Walkman®!
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      • olaf_
        would ogg and flac players have the same bug? or just mp3 players? my walkman also doesnt like fullsize images as cover art, see 579
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      • olaf_
        at least that part has a (partly working) UI to work around it. But again, why default to fullsize if 500px would work as well for "everyone"? No idea where fullsize actually makes a difference. And how large "all the other covers pics" are.
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      • warp
        olaf_: presumably in the kind of media playback devices hooked up to living room HD TVs.
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      • olaf_
        warp: sure. not sure what the quick dimension check is, but "find -name "cover*" -type f -print0 | sort -z | xargs -0 display" shows various sizes, from maybe 400x400 up to 2000x2000 or whatever. So I think those players have to scale up anyway.
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      • warp
        olaf_: There are only three sizes available at the cover art archive, max 250px, max 500px, and original.
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      • olaf_
        in the end the user tagging the MP3s for that sort of Walkman has to tweak UI settings anyway (if they get implemented), so he can very well select different size from pulldown menu, and tracknumber workaround checkbox.
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      • warp
        olaf_: it might be a good option to take the original and resize to max 1200 (to match iTunes), but that means picard needs to start resizing images -- which is slightly more work than just embedding whatever was downloaded.
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      • olaf_
        would be nice to know how many devices are affected by that tracknumber sorting bug. All of Sony, or just the ones produced on Monday.
      • 2014-03-31 09031, 2014

      • olaf_
        regarding the '?' in filenames, looks like I forgot to set windows compatibility. Or its a new option, after 1.2, and it does not default to ON. which would be a bug. In the end files go to FAT32.
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      • Mineo
        fwiw, the default file size has been changed between 1.2 and now
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      • ruaok
        uh oh. barrynorton is here.
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      • barrynorton
        hey :)
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      • ruaok
        welcome.
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      • ruaok
        ruaok has changed the topic to: Ice Ice Baby week | Agenda: Heckle Barry (ruaok), DRs
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      • barrynorton
        I've a question about URL-encoding of tags, which is a bit of a blocker for me - would be good to know who to quiz about that
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      • ruaok
        oh, right. sorry, that's been sitting in my personal email box for eons.
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      • ruaok
        BANG!
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      • ruaok
        ruaok has changed the topic to: Ice Ice Baby week | Agenda: URL encoding tags (barrynorton), DRs
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      • ruaok
        right. anyone present?
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      • bitmap is here
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      • ruaok
        now that we're all on the same page again?
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      • ruaok pokes Freso
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      • Freso
        Wha'?
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      • chirlu` just came in.
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      • Freso
        Oh, crap. There went my cover. :(
      • 2014-03-31 09016, 2014

      • ruaok
        poke poke poke poke
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      • Freso
        D:
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      • warp has one eye in this channel.
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      • Freso
        And the other on the sky?
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      • ruaok wonders where the other eye is
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      • warp
        ruaok: working
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      • ruaok
        good good.
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      • ruaok
        well, no ianmcorvidae. or nikki.
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      • ruaok
        lets answer barrynorton's question.
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      • ruaok
        barrynorton: explain it to us please?
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      • barrynorton
        so mostly tags seem to tag URL-encoded on the end of mb.org/tag...
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      • chirlu`
        chirlu` has changed the topic to: Ice Ice Baby week | Agenda: URL encoding tags (barrynorton), place duplicate check (chirlu), DRs
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      • Freso
        Uh. Perhaps first...
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      • barrynorton
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      • Freso
        What are his questions?
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      • barrynorton
        so is there a spec of what the encoding actually is
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      • barrynorton
        sorry, 'seem to tag' -> 'seem to be'
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      • ruaok
        bitmap: know where to look up the answer to that one?
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      • bitmap
        hm, I don't know offhand, but I'm looking at our code
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      • barrynorton
        thanks, I struggled to find it
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      • ruaok
        while bitmaps digs, do we have any general discussion?
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      • chirlu`
        chirlu` has changed the topic to: Ice Ice Baby week | Agenda: gerneral discussion, URL encoding tags (barrynorton), place duplicate check (chirlu), DRs
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      • chirlu`
        chirlu` has changed the topic to: Ice Ice Baby week | Agenda: general discussion, URL encoding tags (barrynorton), place duplicate check (chirlu), DRs
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      • chirlu`
        Appüarently not. :)
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      • reosarevok
        Not much, really
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      • ruaok
        I'm still perplexed.
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      • ruaok
        last year the meetings were stacked. no chance to finish all the topics in an hour.
      • 2014-03-31 09008, 2014

      • ruaok
        and now?
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      • ruaok
        crickets
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      • chirlu`
        We could continue the party colour discussion. ;-)
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      • ruaok makes the crickets noise
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      • reosarevok
        haha
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      • reosarevok
        Well, stuff seems to be progressing mostly fine, and there's not much to argue about
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      • ruaok
        I dunno if I should be worried or happy.
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      • Freso
        Uh oh!
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      • ruaok
        ocharles: you're here to save us!
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      • Freso
        ocharles: Save the meeting!
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      • Freso
        Haha.
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      • barrynorton
        so is it a good time to ask what's happening with the resolving to RDF(a/JSON-LD) discussion?
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      • ocharles
        Ha, what am I saving? :)
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      • ocharles
        And I thought it was about time I popped my head in!
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      • Freso
        ocharles: We don't have anything to discuss! The meeting's practically already over. :p
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      • ruaok
        we have nothing to talk about.
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      • ocharles
        I don't believe it.
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      • reosarevok
        barrynorton: RDFa was removed
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      • ruaok
        barrynorton: I gave a quick summary in my recap to mb-devel
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      • ocharles
        So, you finished MusicBrainz?
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      • Freso
        Yes.
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      • ocharles
        Gratz!
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      • reosarevok
        barrynorton: Google want JSON-LD, hopefully in its own block and not making a mess in the middle of the page :p
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      • reosarevok
        If they pay for it, we'll probably add it I guess