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ruaok
lol/groan
2011-01-31 03153, 2011
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warp
yikes
2011-01-31 03101, 2011
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ruaok
this is worse than the lizard people episode?
2011-01-31 03106, 2011
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ruaok
seems so.
2011-01-31 03112, 2011
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enjayhch
looking pretty good in many ways
2011-01-31 03116, 2011
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enjayhch
and no so good in other ways
2011-01-31 03127, 2011
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enjayhch
bit crypting
2011-01-31 03131, 2011
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ruaok
drastic budget cuts suck, no matter how you slicing.
2011-01-31 03133, 2011
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enjayhch
cryptic
2011-01-31 03136, 2011
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enjayhch
yup
2011-01-31 03150, 2011
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ruaok
well, there is one development that directly affects metabrainz.
2011-01-31 03107, 2011
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enjayhch
I am trying to put a proposal in to do some work on getting MusicBrainz on to our new platform
2011-01-31 03119, 2011
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enjayhch
which will be really good if the money is approved
2011-01-31 03131, 2011
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enjayhch
will hopefully be able to pass RPM packaging upstream
2011-01-31 03150, 2011
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pbryan
RPM == Redhat package?
2011-01-31 03155, 2011
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ruaok
yep
2011-01-31 03104, 2011
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ruaok
the BBC is a RHES shop
2011-01-31 03116, 2011
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enjayhch
and there will be a new version of the AV showcase soon that will add more MusicBrainz + EchoNext recommendations soon
2011-01-31 03117, 2011
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pbryan
Cool. So, MB software running right inside of BBC?
2011-01-31 03119, 2011
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ruaok
(or whatever the acromym is)
2011-01-31 03133, 2011
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ruaok
enjayhch: awesome.
2011-01-31 03143, 2011
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enjayhch
pbryan: yup, already got MusicBrainz non-NGS running right inside BBC
2011-01-31 03149, 2011
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pbryan
That's great to hear.
2011-01-31 03154, 2011
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pbryan
(or see...)
2011-01-31 03157, 2011
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ruaok
and has been for a while.
2011-01-31 03110, 2011
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enjayhch
but will hopefully have NGS on new platform if money is approved
2011-01-31 03129, 2011
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enjayhch hasn't done any coding this year
2011-01-31 03139, 2011
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ruaok
enjayhch: did you get word from any regarding your board membership?
2011-01-31 03143, 2011
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ruaok
*andy
2011-01-31 03154, 2011
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enjayhch
mostly been emailing, attending meetings and making diagrams
2011-01-31 03106, 2011
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enjayhch
ruaok: you should have had email from Andy about that?
2011-01-31 03119, 2011
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ruaok
I have one yes.
2011-01-31 03129, 2011
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enjayhch
ok, yes, he forwarded to me
2011-01-31 03130, 2011
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ruaok
but I'd rather you shared the news.
2011-01-31 03151, 2011
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enjayhch
ah, I see
2011-01-31 03156, 2011
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enjayhch
BBC Legal don't like the idea of me being on the board
2011-01-31 03104, 2011
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enjayhch
because of conflicts of interest
2011-01-31 03122, 2011
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enjayhch
because I potentially have the power to spend money with MusicBrainz
2011-01-31 03127, 2011
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enjayhch
I think it is crazy
2011-01-31 03130, 2011
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enjayhch
and rather gutted
2011-01-31 03136, 2011
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pbryan
I can see the argument though.
2011-01-31 03142, 2011
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enjayhch
but can kinda see their point
2011-01-31 03157, 2011
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ruaok
I'm rather unhappy by all this.
2011-01-31 03100, 2011
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warp
:/
2011-01-31 03106, 2011
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pbryan
Doesn't BBC already have board presence?
2011-01-31 03114, 2011
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enjayhch
the problem is that MusicBrainz is seen as both a 'charity' and a commercial supplier
2011-01-31 03116, 2011
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ruaok
that was never officially approved.
2011-01-31 03123, 2011
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pbryan
Ah.
2011-01-31 03135, 2011
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ruaok
and matt wood, just accepted the post without getting it cleared.
2011-01-31 03141, 2011
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pbryan
Heh.
2011-01-31 03142, 2011
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ruaok
so the board has had an empty spot for months now.
2011-01-31 03146, 2011
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warp
lol
2011-01-31 03156, 2011
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ruaok
and I had to push out a perfectly good member to make space on the board.
2011-01-31 03102, 2011
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enjayhch
ruaok: sorry for not letting you know sooner
2011-01-31 03104, 2011
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ruaok
and we've been grooming enjayhch to take this spot.
2011-01-31 03110, 2011
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ruaok
enjayhch: its not your fault.
2011-01-31 03113, 2011
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enjayhch
took a very long time to get a No :(
2011-01-31 03118, 2011
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ruaok
understood.
2011-01-31 03124, 2011
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ruaok
I dont think its quite fair to you.
2011-01-31 03134, 2011
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enjayhch
ironicly we now have a new Buisness Manager in my group
2011-01-31 03156, 2011
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enjayhch
going to talk to him about it but not optimisic
2011-01-31 03157, 2011
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ruaok
now I must mend the board and I face some tough decisions that I am not keen on.
2011-01-31 03109, 2011
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ruaok
yes, I think we should leave it be now.
2011-01-31 03116, 2011
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ruaok
we've spent enough time in limbo.
2011-01-31 03119, 2011
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enjayhch
yup
2011-01-31 03129, 2011
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ruaok
I would, howerver, love it if you could continue to be part of our weekly meetings.
2011-01-31 03138, 2011
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enjayhch
yes, I certainly will
2011-01-31 03139, 2011
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ruaok
even if a board position isn't in the cards for you.
2011-01-31 03143, 2011
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ruaok
excellent.
2011-01-31 03144, 2011
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enjayhch
(when I remember!)
2011-01-31 03146, 2011
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ruaok
:-)
2011-01-31 03153, 2011
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enjayhch
conflicts with dinner time!
2011-01-31 03159, 2011
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enjayhch
oh and one other bit of news
2011-01-31 03102, 2011
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ruaok
if you see andy, please tell him I am traveling atm and I will respond later this week.
2011-01-31 03113, 2011
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enjayhch
we started preparing for NGS
2011-01-31 03121, 2011
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ruaok
\ΓΈ/
2011-01-31 03135, 2011
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enjayhch
as our database is very coupled with the old schema at the moment
2011-01-31 03143, 2011
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enjayhch
we got a very good contractor in for a couple of weeks
2011-01-31 03102, 2011
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enjayhch
and he made some SQL views that map the new NSG schema
2011-01-31 03110, 2011
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enjayhch
into our old BBC schema
2011-01-31 03119, 2011
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enjayhch
it works (mostly)
2011-01-31 03123, 2011
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enjayhch
but seems to be slow
2011-01-31 03147, 2011
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enjayhch
really want to start again (!) and use MusicBrainz API v2 instead of directly accssing the database
2011-01-31 03148, 2011
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warp
hah, interesting approach.
2011-01-31 03102, 2011
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ruaok
+1
2011-01-31 03115, 2011
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enjayhch
will see if I can persuade someone to get people to spend time on it
2011-01-31 03125, 2011
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ruaok
enjayhch: if you need help on anything, you know where to find us.
2011-01-31 03127, 2011
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enjayhch
fingers crossed!
2011-01-31 03131, 2011
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enjayhch
ruaok: thanks!
2011-01-31 03137, 2011
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ruaok
ok, warp!
2011-01-31 03138, 2011
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ocharles
enjayhch: on this note
2011-01-31 03151, 2011
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ocharles
What does he mean by API? Does he the web service, or using our interface to the DB?
2011-01-31 03155, 2011
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warp
my week started quite well, but went straight to hell afterward
2011-01-31 03159, 2011
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enjayhch
ocharles: webservice v2
2011-01-31 03102, 2011
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ocharles
ah ok
2011-01-31 03143, 2011
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warp
I fixed MBS-403 in about a day, put that up on code review on wednesday I think...
2011-01-31 03117, 2011
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warp
then started working on MBS-805, but in the course of working on that hit upon a strange redirect bug.
2011-01-31 03148, 2011
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warp
I spent thursday morning trying to isolate it, even trying to find the particular commit with git bisect.
2011-01-31 03105, 2011
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warp
upgraded CPAN thursday afternoon (which didn't fix it)
2011-01-31 03117, 2011
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warp
then eventually started to work on something else.
2011-01-31 03139, 2011
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warp
I've talked to ocharles about it on friday, and he cannot reproduce it
2011-01-31 03155, 2011
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ruaok
on wednesday I can try and reproduce it on my boxen
2011-01-31 03117, 2011
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warp
he suggested trying with his acid2/test-routine branch, and indeed that branch exhibits the problem. master does not.
2011-01-31 03140, 2011
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ocharles
it's a shame you're lacking good internet, if I knew it was so blocking I would have put a few hours aside to work through it with you :(
2011-01-31 03157, 2011
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warp
ocharles: yeah, i know. that should be fixed Real Soon Now.
2011-01-31 03102, 2011
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ocharles
nice
2011-01-31 03114, 2011
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ocharles
and just to confirm, neither test nor my machine exhibit this problem, do they?
2011-01-31 03121, 2011
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ocharles
well, mine doesn't, I can tell you that :)
2011-01-31 03123, 2011
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warp
the flat should have internet very soon, and I'll swap back to my own house this month anyway.
2011-01-31 03155, 2011
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warp
ocharles: correct,
test.musicbrainz.org doesn't exhibit the problem even if I visit it from my development machine
2011-01-31 03158, 2011
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ruaok
that will be nice.
2011-01-31 03109, 2011
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warp
that development machine does have the problem when visiting localhost:3000 running next or acid2/test-routine.
2011-01-31 03128, 2011
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ocharles
I think single stepping with the perl debugger as I said earlier is your best option. let me know how that goes tomorrow?
2011-01-31 03137, 2011
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warp
ocharles: yeah, I will do that.
2011-01-31 03143, 2011
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ocharles
fingers crossed
2011-01-31 03113, 2011
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ruaok
anything else warp?
2011-01-31 03116, 2011
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warp
ruaok: I spent today working on all the guess case bugs reosarevok reported. started a little test suite for guess case.
2011-01-31 03123, 2011
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ruaok
very good.
2011-01-31 03127, 2011
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reosarevok
Oh, nice :D
2011-01-31 03129, 2011
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warp
I should put that on code review tomorrow.
2011-01-31 03139, 2011
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warp
there's a few more cases left, but almost done I think.
2011-01-31 03149, 2011
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warp
ruaok: that's it.
2011-01-31 03101, 2011
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ruaok
good luck on that pesky bug.
2011-01-31 03105, 2011
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ruaok
I can help out on wednesday.
2011-01-31 03109, 2011
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warp
thanks
2011-01-31 03118, 2011
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ruaok
as for me, the week wasn't very useful.
2011-01-31 03130, 2011
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warp
traveling :)
2011-01-31 03138, 2011
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ruaok
tuesday was the last and pretty slow day at midem. late that day we drove back to bologna.
2011-01-31 03151, 2011
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ruaok
then wednesday I wanted to check out Firenze and had a great day in milan.
2011-01-31 03103, 2011
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ruaok
dyslexia when trying to catch trains sucks ass, let me tell you.
2011-01-31 03128, 2011
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ruaok
thursday i flew to HAM and then friday i ran around.
2011-01-31 03131, 2011
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ruaok
mostly vacation stuffs.
2011-01-31 03145, 2011
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ruaok
on friday evening I had dinner with a friend of mine who is working for a new online record shop.
2011-01-31 03148, 2011
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ruaok
they use MB data.
2011-01-31 03155, 2011
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warp
yay!
2011-01-31 03106, 2011
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ruaok
its really a small world AND musicbrainz is becoming pervasive.
2011-01-31 03122, 2011
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warp
ruaok: url?
2011-01-31 03123, 2011
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ruaok
so many people using our data -- its really quite fun to discover it in so many nooks and crannys.
2011-01-31 03131, 2011
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ruaok
its not public yet.
2011-01-31 03137, 2011
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ruaok
once it is, I will make noise.
2011-01-31 03140, 2011
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warp
ok :)
2011-01-31 03104, 2011
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ruaok
tomorrow I fly home and am psyched to get back to work. I'm quite fired up and excited about work atm.
2011-01-31 03116, 2011
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ruaok
it helps to go to a conference and have people talk about MB.
2011-01-31 03124, 2011
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warp
haha
2011-01-31 03140, 2011
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ruaok
nikki, murdos, ijabz: anything new from your camps?
2011-01-31 03143, 2011
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ruaok
alastairp, pbryan ?
2011-01-31 03153, 2011
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ruaok
or reosarevok ?
2011-01-31 03100, 2011
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alastairp
no. I did some hacking a few weeks ago, but no problems there
2011-01-31 03104, 2011
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ijabz
Yeah, well I think i speeded up indexes builds
2011-01-31 03110, 2011
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alastairp
been reporting bugs sporadicly
