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      • kepstin-laptop
        anyways, I was curious: if I have a replicated database, is there anything special I have to do for schema updates, or is that pulled automatically as part of the replication updates?

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      • ianmcorvidae
        I think replication packets do it for you, although I'm not sure

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      • adhawkins
        Anyone here have the NGS virtual machine running under virtualbox?

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      • adhawkins
        Triyng to find out why it won't run for me, I suspect it's because it's a 64 bit OS

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      • olaf_
        teuf: something is wrong with file numbering

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      • ruaok
        adhawkins: its 32bit. I just checked.

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      • teuf
        olaf_: how so?

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      • ruaok
        it was created on 4.1.0

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      • olaf_
        teuf: http://pastebin.com/dpfs3h4A

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      • olaf_
        both cd #1 and #2 have their tracks numbered 01 - xxx

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      • olaf_
        shouldnt that be 01-01 and 02-01 or similar? picard at least shows it that way

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      • olaf_
        also, the old version had DISCNUMBER=0. with original rhythmbox

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      • teuf can't make sense of that description

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      • Mineo
        adhawkins: a wild guess: did you forget to modprobe virtualbox' kernel modules?

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      • olaf_
        teuf: should rhythmbox name the files for the first track on a multicd album 1-01 , 2-01, 3-01 and so on?

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      • teuf
        "I have this Judas Priest album composed of 2 discs, when I rip it, I get 01 - 01 xxxxx.ogg for a file from the 1st disc, and its tags are ... I get 01 - 01 yyyy.ogg for a file from the 2nd disc, and its tags are .... I'd expect the files to be named X and Y, and the tags to be W and Z"

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      • teuf
        olaf_: the other way round no ? 02 - 01 foo.ogg for disc 2, track 1

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      • teuf
        and 01 - 02 bar.ogg for disc 1, track 2

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      • teuf
        depends on what you set in your preferences

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      • olaf_
        teuf: I just get 01 - name-from-cd1 and 01 - name-from-cd2

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      • teuf
        ah, this is probably a side-effect of these changes

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      • teuf
        the musicbrainz-side changes

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      • teuf
        since until know multidisc albums were named AlbumName (Disc N), the tracks from different discs were automatically separated

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      • teuf
        so no need for the disc number in the naming scheme

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      • teuf
        you can change it in dconf-editor

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      • olaf_
        have to run

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      • adhawkins
        ruaok, well, I can create my own vm

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      • adhawkins
        If I boot from a 32 bit debian disk it runs Ok

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      • adhawkins
        If I try to boot it from a 64 bit debian disk it just hangs after the boot menu

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      • adhawkins
        mineo: I have all the modules loaded, I can boot other VMs

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      • adhawkins
        Ok, if I want to install NGS from scratch, what distro would you guys suggest as a starting point

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      • adhawkins
        I'm a Debian man myself

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      • ruaok
        debian works fine.

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      • ruaok
        k, bed time.

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      • ruaok
        nn

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      • adhawkins
        nn ruaok

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      • warp
        buenos dias!

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      • adhawkins
        My god, how long does cpanm . take?

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      • warp
        what does that do?

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      • adhawkins
        It's one of the steps in installing the server

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      • adhawkins
        Installing a load of perl stuff

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      • ocharles
        yes, we have a lot of dependencies :)

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      • adhawkins
        So I see...

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      • warp
        cpanm . takes the deps from the Makefile.PL in the current directory or something?

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      • adhawkins
        Just one thing, what exactly does 'Make sure the proper environment variables for local::lib are set (PERL5LIB, PERL_MM_OPT, MODULEBUILDRC, and PATH)' mean?

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      • warp
        Having the following line in your ~/.bashrc should be enough for that:

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      • warp
        eval $(perl -I$HOME/perl5/lib/perl5 -Mlocal::lib)

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      • adhawkins
        Can't locate local/lib.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/mbserver/perl5/lib/perl5/i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi /home/mbserver/perl5/lib/perl5 /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .).

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      • adhawkins
        Ah, doesn't look like I've installed it yet.

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      • ocharles
        warp: yea

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      • adhawkins
        Would it matter if I did the cpanm . before installing that?

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      • warp
        hm, perhaps we should add some local::lib instructions or atleast a pointer in our INSTALL file.

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      • adhawkins
        Doh.

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      • adhawkins
        It is mentioned in the wiki, but I only installed the perl modules the INSTALL file specifically says

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      • warp
        adhawkins: local::lib is used to install cpan packages in your home directory

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      • adhawkins
        So where were they going before I had it installed?

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      • warp
        adhawkins: which is one way to make sure cpan doesn't mess up any perl packages installed by your distribution.

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      • adhawkins
        I'm running as a normal user I've created for the server

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      • warp
        I would expect the default path to be /usr/local/ for perl stuff installed by cpan.

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      • adhawkins
        So would cpan be able to put stuff there as a normal user?

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      • adhawkins
        I'd expect not

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      • warp
        normally, no. (I sometimes make /usr/local writable for "warp" :)

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      • adhawkins
        Oh well, we'll see what happens.

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      • adhawkins
        I can always start again if necessary.

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      • adhawkins
        I've got a snapshot of before I started this.

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      • warp
        ah, good.

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      • adhawkins
        Anyone else found virtualbox a bit flaky? Keeps marking the VMs as 'unaccessible'

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      • adhawkins
        Doing it all headless under linux, using vboxmanage primarily

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      • luks
        I should take the time and try to write an external version of the MB webservice

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      • warp
        I haven't had trouble with virtualbox. but I just use it to run windows vm's on a debian machine.

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      • ocharles
        what's an external version?

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      • luks
        not in mb_server

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      • adhawkins
        I did see a lot of failures going past, could these have just been install failures cos /usr/local/wasn't writable?

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      • ocharles
        possibly, yea

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      • adhawkins
        Oh well, off and running again now

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      • adhawkins
        How much disc space does a server use roughly? Including a database obviously.

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      • ocharles
        Having 50GB aside is a good idea

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      • adhawkins
        Erk!

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      • ocharles
        I think the full db is 40

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      • adhawkins
        Is all of that required?

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      • ocharles
        no

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      • adhawkins
        What I want is a local server I can run XML requests against

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      • ocharles
        then you don't really need any data

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      • adhawkins
        Trying not to be antisocial by scanning my music collection against the real server every night

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      • ocharles
        we have webservice.sql which loads it up with our test data

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      • ocharles
        oh

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      • ocharles
        then you'll need all the data

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      • adhawkins
        Oh ok.

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      • ocharles
        except edits

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      • ocharles
        which is quite a saving actually, that's the biggest dump

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      • ocharles
        hrm

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      • adhawkins
        Can a slave be set up to not populate edits?

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      • ocharles
        you wouldn't need cdstubs either

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      • ocharles
        you probably only need the core data

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      • ocharles
        well you can't make edits on a slave

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      • adhawkins
        I don't want to

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      • adhawkins
        So it just won't download any of that when it replicates?

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      • ocharles
        it's not replicated

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      • ocharles
        so you'll be fine

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      • adhawkins
        Apologies then, wrong terminology

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      • adhawkins
        I want to be able to replicate with the main server

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      • adhawkins
        # DB_STAGING_SERVER to 0.

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      • adhawkins
        What I want is a relatively up to date copy of the main database locally

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      • ocharles
        WHAT

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      • ocharles
        WHATWHATWHAT

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      • ocharles
        This sucks :(

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      • adhawkins
        So ocharles, is it SLAVE that I want?

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      • ocharles
        yep

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      • adhawkins
        Ok.

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      • adhawkins
        And what data will that fetch in the replication packets?

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      • adhawkins
        Edits too?

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      • adhawkins
        Or just the 'core' data?

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      • ocharles
        no, edits do not get replicated

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      • adhawkins
        Cool

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      • adhawkins
        That fits with the previous server, it didn't need anywhere near 50 gig

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      • adhawkins
        Any way to tell how far through the cpanm process it is?

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      • ocharles
        not that I know of

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      • adhawkins
        Yay :)

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      • adhawkins
        Currently processing Heap-0.80

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      • adhawkins
        File-NFSLock-1.21

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      • adhawkins
        (this could get dull very quickly!)

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      • adhawkins
        Oooh, it's finished with an error

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      • adhawkins
        Re-running to see what happens

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      • adhawkins
        - XML::LibXML ...missing. (would need 1.60)

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      • adhawkins
        Shouldn't it go get that and install it?

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      • adhawkins
        Or is it because libxml isn't installed?

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      • pecastro
        adhawkins: most likely.

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      • adhawkins
        libxml2 was but libxml2-dev wasn't.

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      • adhawkins
        Installing that and will re-run

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      • adhawkins
        Still failed. It's trying to install XML-Parser-2.41

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      • adhawkins
        Expat.xs:12:19: error: expat.h: No such file or directory

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      • adhawkins
        Any idea where that comes from?

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      • adhawkins
        libexpat1-dev?

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      • adhawkins
        Looks better