#musicbrainz-devel

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      • nikki
        ruaok: found a forum post complaining about dbpoweramp - http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?id=... seems like the problem there is that it fetches the release after looking up the disc (and the release has too many tracks)
      • ruaok
        nikki: ok.
      • question is: now what?
      • nikki
        I don't know :/ I can't see how we could solve that without inventing mbids when doing a disc lookup to be used when doing a cd lookup
      • (fwiw max has the same problem but I'll live :P)
      • ruaok
        I think we may want to make the cd lookup totally braindead and backwards compatible.
      • its clear that that authors of these apps are not going to step up and do anything about it.
      • not sure how we would do that multi disc releases backwards compatible though.
      • nikki
        hmm...
      • if the cd lookup generates an mbid (the sort we used when creating release groups initially) using the release mbid + medium number and stores it in a table somewhere... then the application does a lookup with the new mbid... and somehow figures out that it has to return medium n from release somembid... would something like that work?
      • nikki has no idea if it would or how much work it would be if it would
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      • hey navap
      • navap
        Hey
      • nikki
        I meant that /ws/1 somehow figures out that the release lookup for newmbid is actually for medium n of release somembid
      • (at least I assume the applications are doing a cd lookup to get a list of releases, then release lookups to get the tracks)
      • navap just came back from an Air Cadet parade with a bajillion pictures to sort through
      • ruaok
        I would have to look at the process again to see how to possibly fix it.
      • navap wonders what people use for online photo management besides flickr or picasa
      • nikki has no idea
      • nikki
        that would require having photos to manage ;)
      • navap
        None? Really?
      • nikki
        I have some, but I don't need to manage them. they're old, crap and boring
      • and mostly of cats.
      • ruaok
        lightroom.
      • the only adobe product that doesnt suck ass
      • navap
        A few years back my grandmother scanned in a few hundred hard copy photos of her and her kids' childhood
      • I've tried picasa and flickr, they're cool products (picasa more so than flickr), but I always feel really restricted on what I can do with them
      • I've tried lightroom, and yeah, amazing product. But it doesn't have an online sharing component
      • ruaok
        yeah, those are two different products
      • you use lightroom to process and magage your pictures.
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      • then you upload for the social aspects
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      • warp
        late!
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      • pecastro
        warp: commit 973ad70f ? I think you might have forgotten to add Cache::Memcached to the Makfile.PL ?
      • warp
        or I should've used Cache::Memcached::Fast in the code, as we are including that.
      • hrm.
      • I'll add "Cache::Memcached" to the makefile for now, I am not sure what effect changing to Cache::Memcached::Fast will have.
      • pecastro: thanks for pointing that out.
      • pecastro
        np.
      • I bumped into it whilst running tests against master ...
      • warp
        ok, pushed.
      • pecastro: it was probably manually installed already on our testing machine.
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      • ocharles
        warp: ping
      • reosarevok
        ocharles: is it known that relating to recordings doesn't unselect the entity?
      • ocharles
        well they are separate features
      • if you're talking about "relate to..."
      • reosarevok
        (meaning, I still have the same artist selected for relationships)
      • No, I mean I select an entity
      • pecastro
        Guys, do you have any deployment instructions/recipe somewhere?
      • reosarevok
        I use it to relate to recordings on a release
      • And after it it is still selected
      • (I still get the "Relate X to recordings" option)
      • I need to go back to the entity to unselect it
      • ocharles
        oh, no, not known
      • reosarevok
        Ok
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      • ocharles: is there nothing between Hot fixes and NGS + 1?
      • ocharles
        no
      • reosarevok
        For "look at it soon but not that urgent as other stuff"?
      • Aww
      • Ok
      • Added it as hot fixes, feel free to move it if you think it should be +1
      • ocharles
        that's NGS+1 :)
      • that's not not for hotfixes
      • not*
      • heh
      • that is really not a critical bug, I think that can go in NGS+1
      • warp
        ocharles: ack
      • ocharles
        warp: http://codereview.musicbrainz.org/r/1227/ needs feedback from you :)
      • warp
        .. "or if he did intend it to match exact tracklists"
      • ocharles: I think all tracklist matching is your work, not mine.
      • ocharles
        not the usage of it in the release editor
      • your recording association work uses Tracklist->find
      • warp
        ah, right
      • that could benefit from looser matching
      • ocharles
        ok. the find algorithm as it was before took tracklists which had the mentioned set of tracks, but it didn't mind if there were other tracks
      • I.e., you try and find a tracklist with 5 tracks, you might get a tracklist back with 2 bonus tracks appended
      • warp
        for recording associations that makes sense.
      • ocharles
        ok
      • warp
        it's only a suggestion, and the set of tracks taken from a tracklist is probably better than searching for recordings without such an album/tracklist context.
      • ocharles nods
      • so, I assume this means that patch is not correct? (and I don't need to review this version)
      • ocharles
        right, I need to update it to leave sub find alone
      • warp
        I'll have a look at code review in a few hours (end of my working day) so those patches can make today's release.
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      • reosarevok
        ocharles: It was more because I expected it to be a quick fix you could do while resting from a harder thing
      • Not because of it being truly urgent
      • ocharles
        hahaha, what is this resting thing you talk of
      • :P
      • reosarevok
        Oh, com on, I know you sleep sometimes
      • reosarevok thinks you should do easy fixes instead and relax while feeling useful 8-)
      • Ok, I'll move it to +1
      • warp
        man, all these bugs are difficult to reproduce.
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      • Yurim
        Hi, I hope this is the correct channel for my question. I'm still wondering if the multiplication of the discids was the best way to transfer data to NGS. What do you guys think, should it remain that way?
      • luks
        I think the best way is to remove discids, but people didn't like that idea
      • Yurim
        remove them completely from the schema or just the existing data?
      • luks
        completely remove from the schema
      • we can do CD lookups without discids
      • Yurim
        by comparing track count and lengths? hm, we would loose the current accuracy
      • luks
        is the accuract important though?
      • Yurim
        good question, i don't have an idea how many matches that would produce.
      • another question: i used isrcsubmit.py to submit isrcs. This does no longer work. I did not find the documentation for that.
      • Mineo
        what's the error message?
      • ocharles
        I imagine this is related to the more up to date digest protocol
      • Yurim
        sorry, took a while.
      • "urlopen error qop 'auth,auth-int' is not supported"
      • luks
        is it using python-musicbrainz2 or urllib directly?
      • bitmap
        ocharles: I found a way to reproduce the MBS-2285 collections ISE on the test server too, and it gives a better stack trace there
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      • Yurim
        sorry, got disconnected.
      • isrcsubmit.py is using python-musicbrainz2
      • to be exact: musicbrainz2.webservice.Query.submitISRCs(...)
      • ocharles
        bitmap: ta!
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      • luks
        Yurim: then updating to the latest version should fix it
      • Yurim
        ok, so my ubuntu version is not sufficient.
      • ocharles
        bitmap: still can't reproduce...
      • Made a new account, created a collection, went to http://test.musicbrainz.org/release/3fefe054-23..., clicked 'add to my collection'
      • bitmap
        ocharles: hmm...want me to just pastebin the entire stack trace it gives me?
      • ocharles
        yes please
      • bitmap
        on the same release you just linked: http://pastebin.com/S6fPn09N
      • ocharles
        what browser are you using?
      • bitmap
        chromium 12.0.712.0 (78995)
      • ocharles
        the only reason I can think this would happen is if it can't redirect back to the page you were just on
      • can you change your password on test and let me try?
      • bitmap
        it's still mb
      • ocharles
        I can reproduce it if I copy the link and open a new tab though
      • guess that's bad enough
      • bitmap
        oh, it works in Firefox fwiw
      • ocharles
        for some reason the referer header isn't being sent in your chromium
      • are you browsing incognito?
      • bitmap
        so it's a browser bug?
      • no
      • ocharles
        well i dunno what it is :)