just commenting on how much voting activity there is around now :)
usually things get exactly three, or get fewer and expire at 2 weeks :P
reosarevok suspects one of the reasons he was made an autoeditor was to take his *huge* amount of unvoted edits out of the queue :p
haha
nikki
isn't that always the case?
(well, nearly)
ianmcorvidae
"you make too many edits, be an autoeditor"
lol
reosarevok
"you make too many edits in fields nobody votes on, be an autoeditor"
nikki
although obviously only if the person makes *good* edits
ianmcorvidae
well, yes
ocharles
ha, that didn't stop me!
:P
reosarevok
ocharles: Not making good edits? :p
ocharles
reosarevok: well, I was being a bit sarcy, but when I got made auto-editor I felt I didn't deserve it
but I asked to revert it and everyone said "NO. You'll put the edit queue back up"
:P
MBChatLogger: off
MBChatLogger
is not logging
is logging
reosarevok
ocharles: neither did I, but still, *nobody* was looking at 90% of my edits (most of the Spanish hip hop ones) at all, so it was like "well, the effect will be the same, just 2 weeks earlier"
ocharles
yep
ok, I'm sorted for tomorrow. I'm going to get away from a desk now and unwind
toodles!
ruaok
wait
lets talk about the coverart script, then you can go.
why can;t the coverart script add rows as needed?
if the row isn't there, add it.
seems like a very simple fix.
ianmcorvidae
bah, above 1k again
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ruaok
wow. 6k open edits. <3
nikki
ruaok: I said earlier that it's like going back in time :)
ianmcorvidae
we should figure out a way for voting to be more palatable so this happens more often :)
nikki
subscribing to releases ;)
ianmcorvidae
haha, potentially
ruaok
agreed. the new edit system will need to address getting people to vote more.
reosarevok
ruaok: add achievements :p
ianmcorvidae
possibly would work
ruaok
put it on the edit system overhaul wishlist.
reosarevok
Make avatars
murdos
being able to see all edits related to a release though its editing history is already a big improvement re voting
nikki
yeah
reosarevok
"If you vote on 300 edits you get a nice hat for your avatar"
ianmcorvidae
"after you get the avatar in the first place, by voting on 100"
ruaok
heh. adding game strategies to just about everything seems pretty hip these days.
ianmcorvidae
it seems to work :P
reosarevok
"gamification" and "monetization" are the two words I see everywhere
You could… sell skins for the site :p
"Donate to get a star by your name!"
nikki
make it so people can donate money for particular features :P
nikki would sooo donate for a single login
ianmcorvidae
a bounty system would be sort of cool
reosarevok
A single login?
How many do we have?
ianmcorvidae
across wiki/main site/forums/etc
nikki
instead of one for the site, one for the wiki, one for the forums, one for jira...
reosarevok
Oh, ok
nikki
one for trac, one for code review... one for uservoice...
nikki is surely missing something
reosarevok would be happy enough with "remember me" working in all of them so I didn't have to worry too much
it works for me :P
reosarevok
Even in test?
nikki
yes
reosarevok
It kept logging me out until a couple days ago, but maybe that's solved
nikki
I don't like having to tell people that yes, they need to register again for the forum, and again for the wiki though
reosarevok
"You need to register again for the forum… so why not come to the mailing list instead?"
ruaok
lol
but I agree with the single sign on. its needed.
reosarevok
Along with the murder with fire of half of our pages
nikki looks at http://test.musicbrainz.org/release/fd5da018-9897-47c1-b283-7ba44bdf1b79 and wonders if we should get rid of the various highlights on release pages and just have a highlighted bar saying "This release has open edits!" or something
ianmcorvidae
yeah
reosarevok
Well, wiki pages too
But I meant uservoice / trac / probably something else
ianmcorvidae has been seriously considering installing mediawiki on my VPS and trying to rebuild a useful wiki from the ground up :P
ruaok
ianmcorvidae: I think once we have NGS out we will all have more time to work on cleaning the wiki.
ianmcorvidae
yeah
ruaok
if we have a wiki cleanup day, we might be able to make LOT of changes.
ianmcorvidae
it's a post-NGS project one way or the other :)
ruaok
lol
if that is how people want to do it...
I'm ok with that.
nikki would rather use mb-style for style stuff
reosarevok
ianmcorvidae: that's what is being done in NGS, kind of. "these are the adapted rules. If you don't like them, change them"
nikki
once upon a time people used to actually edit the wiki :P
ianmcorvidae
reosarevok: yup :)
ocharles
ruaok: it's not the cover art scripts job to be adding rows. I think we either add a step to MBImport to do it, or sanitise it
reosarevok would to, except because any important change gets stalled lately
reosarevok
*would too, even
(rather use mb-style)
ruaok
ocharles: why can't it be the job?
makes full sense to me.
ianmcorvidae
it took me about a year of being part of musicbrainz to not be afraid of editing the thing for fear of the righteous hammer of mb-style coming down on my poor noggin
ocharles
ruaok: it's mixing responsibilities. now we have 2 places release_coverart rows come from, not one.
reosarevok
ianmcorvidae: yup, that's part of the problem
ruaok
fine. santize it.
ocharles
i can sanitize it, or generate the rows on import
ruaok
just sanitize
ocharles
ok
ruaok
should we try and look at the stuck process issue or are you totally done for the day?
ocharles
i'm done, brain can't even handle a book now it seems
nikki wonders if people like murdos or ruaok would have any objections to using "automatically applied" on the server instead, since it's only used on about 4 pages (we can still say in the docs that people call them auto-edits for short)
i can dig the laptop out if so
murdos
ocharles: if possible, yes. I want to patch MBImport
ocharles
murdos: ok, one mo
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ruaok
nikki: no objections here.
reosarevok
While we're at that, let's change "autoeditor" for "awesomeditor"!
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reosarevok, not until I'm an autoeditor.
murdos
nikki: a distinction sill stands between an accepted edit (auto-edit), and a edit whose result is instantaneously visible (add release vs an edit recording title)
...instantaneously visible but still subject to vote and thus pending
reosarevok
thus not applied, then
nikki
we don't use "automatically applied" to refer to those though, do we?
murdos
no, it's not really related, but I know new users are often confused
that's why they try to remove things whereas the add edit is still pending
