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ocharles
it just hangs
2011-05-23 14352, 2011
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ruaok
very odd.
2011-05-23 14353, 2011
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ocharles
nothing seems to timeout
2011-05-23 14301, 2011
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ruaok
even more odd.
2011-05-23 14317, 2011
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ocharles
murdos: anyway, that's in my hotfix milestone because viy but it there and i haven't moved it out
2011-05-23 14327, 2011
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warp
though both those ISPs could very well use mostly the same route to digital west.
2011-05-23 14330, 2011
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ocharles
I don't think it should be there though
2011-05-23 14352, 2011
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ocharles
murdos: feel free to change what you want to see me work on for tomorrow :)
2011-05-23 14302, 2011
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ocharles
i'm afraid i'm too tired to plan that now so I'm just going to work on whatever is there
2011-05-23 14304, 2011
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ruaok
ocharles: what is the recommended way for someone to check out a tag in git?
2011-05-23 14310, 2011
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ocharles
(when I wake up in the morning)
2011-05-23 14313, 2011
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ocharles
ruaok: git checkout {tag-name}
2011-05-23 14324, 2011
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ocharles
they need to fetch first
2011-05-23 14328, 2011
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ruaok
You are in 'detached HEAD' state.
2011-05-23 14336, 2011
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ruaok
which is an odd place to be.
2011-05-23 14352, 2011
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ruaok
I did a clean checkout and then the tag checkout.
2011-05-23 14331, 2011
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murdos
ocharles: he, he... thanks :) I may change one or two tickets, not more. obviously if you disagree, just revert my changes ;)
2011-05-23 14352, 2011
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ocharles
ruaok: i'm just cloning to look now
2011-05-23 14304, 2011
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ruaok
k
2011-05-23 14307, 2011
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ocharles
murdos: you tend to have good judgement :)
2011-05-23 14353, 2011
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warp
right. I am off to sleep. goodnight!
2011-05-23 14301, 2011
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ruaok
nn warp.
2011-05-23 14302, 2011
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ocharles
natta!
2011-05-23 14304, 2011
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ruaok
'
2011-05-23 14311, 2011
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ruaok
ll leave you alone for the evening. :)
2011-05-23 14327, 2011
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ocharles
good, cause you already owe me 11 hours for today :p
2011-05-23 14359, 2011
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warp
lol
2011-05-23 14351, 2011
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ruaok
I know I'm going to owe fat paychecks to both of you.
2011-05-23 14359, 2011
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ruaok
better made an appt with google to go begging. :)
2011-05-23 14316, 2011
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ocharles
:P
2011-05-23 14312, 2011
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murdos
2011-05-23 14330, 2011
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ocharles
murdos: released how?
2011-05-23 14333, 2011
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ocharles
as in it's in the RE?
2011-05-23 14341, 2011
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murdos
yes, it is
2011-05-23 14351, 2011
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ocharles
god damnit, I'm too ship-happy
2011-05-23 14354, 2011
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ocharles
I did this last release too!
2011-05-23 14302, 2011
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ocharles
oh well, this can stay in and i'll have to create enhancement tickets
2011-05-23 14336, 2011
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murdos
2011-05-23 14346, 2011
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ocharles
yep, that's it
2011-05-23 14357, 2011
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murdos
ok, I'll handle that
2011-05-23 14310, 2011
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ocharles
many thanks :)
2011-05-23 14339, 2011
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ruaok
modbots novels tend to be repeititve. :(
2011-05-23 14309, 2011
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ocharles
ruaok: hopefully get that solved for tomorrow
2011-05-23 14312, 2011
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ocharles
forgot to get it in today
2011-05-23 14318, 2011
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ocharles
ruaok: also, detached HEAD is correct
2011-05-23 14319, 2011
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ruaok
kewl.
2011-05-23 14344, 2011
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ruaok
its kind of odd to send our customers to a checkout that gives a cryptic error message. :(
2011-05-23 14354, 2011
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ocharles
it's not an error
2011-05-23 14305, 2011
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ruaok
maybe have them follow with the warning's suggestion to create a branch?
2011-05-23 14305, 2011
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ocharles
git is just warning you that if you do make commits here without creating a branch, git might delete your work
2011-05-23 14314, 2011
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ruaok nods
2011-05-23 14335, 2011
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ocharles
we could have a "latest-release" branch which just gets pushed whenever a we do a release
2011-05-23 14355, 2011
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ocharles
to update then they only have to "git pull" too
2011-05-23 14302, 2011
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ocharles
(and maybe run upgrade.sh)
2011-05-23 14311, 2011
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ruaok
one more thing to maintain. should we do that?
2011-05-23 14351, 2011
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ocharles would prefer not to
2011-05-23 14325, 2011
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murdos
2011-05-23 14350, 2011
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ocharles
done, thanks for clearing up after me!
2011-05-23 14320, 2011
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ruaok
then lets not.
2011-05-23 14331, 2011
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ruaok
ok. last item for valeriopaolini...
2011-05-23 14343, 2011
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ruaok
I know we discussed this when we did the created/last_update flags.
2011-05-23 14303, 2011
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ruaok
how can a mirror user tell when an artist_credit has changed?
2011-05-23 14319, 2011
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ruaok
the artist_credit table is immutable, but artist_name is not, right?
2011-05-23 14332, 2011
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ocharles
artist_name is immutable
2011-05-23 14343, 2011
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ruaok
ah, ok.
2011-05-23 14347, 2011
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ocharles
you don't really need to know if artist_credit is updated
2011-05-23 14359, 2011
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ruaok
so, watching for new artist_credits is key.
2011-05-23 14303, 2011
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murdos
ocharles: no problem, you're doing an awesome work, so I'm happy to help you in some way ;)
2011-05-23 14305, 2011
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ocharles
pretty much, from how they work I think
2011-05-23 14307, 2011
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ruaok
ocharles: how about artist_credit_name ? that immutable as well?
2011-05-23 14313, 2011
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ocharles
yep
2011-05-23 14329, 2011
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ocharles
names and artist_credit's are all handled with find_or_insert
2011-05-23 14314, 2011
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valeriopaolini
so, if something changes, a new artist_credit_name row is created
2011-05-23 14327, 2011
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ruaok
yep
2011-05-23 14308, 2011
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valeriopaolini
and there is no easy way to find that a row has been deleted
2011-05-23 14318, 2011
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valeriopaolini
right?
2011-05-23 14333, 2011
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ruaok
create a AFTER DELETE trigger on that table.
2011-05-23 14314, 2011
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valeriopaolini
yes, already doing this with artist_credit and artist tables
2011-05-23 14317, 2011
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valeriopaolini
I'll add also this trigger
2011-05-23 14327, 2011
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valeriopaolini
thank you very much for your help!
2011-05-23 14354, 2011
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ruaok
you're welcome. :)
2011-05-23 14356, 2011
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valeriopaolini
I'll be back tomorrow with more questions ;)
2011-05-23 14357, 2011
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aeontech joined the channel
2011-05-23 14311, 2011
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valeriopaolini
bye bye
2011-05-23 14319, 2011
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ruaok
nn
2011-05-23 14323, 2011
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ruaok
aeontech: hi!
2011-05-23 14337, 2011
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ruaok
long time no hear. did you get the server working yet?
2011-05-23 14302, 2011
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ruaok
ocharles: do you know if your new XML seriaqlizer is removing spaces from the XML?
2011-05-23 14316, 2011
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ocharles
it shouldn't be
2011-05-23 14319, 2011
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ocharles
all the previous tests passed
2011-05-23 14333, 2011
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ruaok
I mean the useless spaces between elements.
2011-05-23 14346, 2011
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ruaok
2011-05-23 14347, 2011
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ocharles
oh yes, it definitely strips that
2011-05-23 14352, 2011
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ruaok
bummer.
2011-05-23 14303, 2011
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ruaok
the XML responses are 50% larger on average.
2011-05-23 14311, 2011
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ruaok
which means a 50% larger bandwidth bill. :(
2011-05-23 14318, 2011
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ocharles
not surprised, most releases have more discs now :)
2011-05-23 14326, 2011
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ruaok
I know.
2011-05-23 14332, 2011
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ocharles
are we gzipping everything?
2011-05-23 14336, 2011
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ruaok
yep.
2011-05-23 14340, 2011
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ruaok
and we have been for years.
2011-05-23 14348, 2011
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ruaok
djce never mentioned when he turned that on.
2011-05-23 14359, 2011
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ruaok
and I didn't see the drop in bandwdith ,so I though it was still coming.
2011-05-23 14308, 2011
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ruaok
so, we got hit with a double whammy.
2011-05-23 14327, 2011
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ruaok
but still, our hosting costs are nothing compared to paying salaries.
2011-05-23 14338, 2011
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reosarevok
"so we're firing you both"
2011-05-23 14345, 2011
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ruaok
lol.
2011-05-23 14353, 2011
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ruaok
this isn't corporate america, reosarevok
2011-05-23 14307, 2011
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reosarevok
Thankfully!
2011-05-23 14313, 2011
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ruaok
yeah, amen to that.
2011-05-23 14352, 2011
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ocharles
haha
2011-05-23 14305, 2011
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ocharles
"Congratulations on shipping NGS, have a day off. Keep your blackberry on you though"
2011-05-23 14325, 2011
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ruaok
lol.
2011-05-23 14337, 2011
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ruaok
uhm yeah. we're going to need you to come in on saturday.
2011-05-23 14342, 2011
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ruaok
and sunday too.
2011-05-23 14352, 2011
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ruaok
is office space required watching elsewhere too?
2011-05-23 14355, 2011
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ocharles
huh? I thought we were talking about funny jokes that don't happen in musicbrainz
2011-05-23 14357, 2011
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ocharles
oh snap.
2011-05-23 14324, 2011
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ruaok
heh.
2011-05-23 14330, 2011
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ruaok
in the grand scheme of things we did alright.
2011-05-23 14342, 2011
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ruaok
how many 3 am calls did you get from me?
2011-05-23 14346, 2011
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ocharles
yea, i'm just glad we finally said "it's just got to be shipped"
2011-05-23 14348, 2011
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ocharles
true!
2011-05-23 14320, 2011
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ruaok
and the office space reference was to having to come in EVERY weekend.
2011-05-23 14327, 2011
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ruaok
not just for releases like we just did.
2011-05-23 14354, 2011
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ocharles downloads lilypond and prepares to notate his first little piano composition
2011-05-23 14303, 2011
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ocharles
sheet music tracked by git? yep, definitely a geek
2011-05-23 14311, 2011
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ocharles
sheet music in latex notation, at that :P
2011-05-23 14336, 2011
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ianmcorvidae
haha
2011-05-23 14354, 2011
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ianmcorvidae
sort of latex, anyway, lilypond is a _bit_ different
2011-05-23 14302, 2011
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ocharles
yea, true
2011-05-23 14329, 2011
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alastairp
ocharles: could use musescore
2011-05-23 14351, 2011
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ocharles
alastairp: that looks nice too
2011-05-23 14353, 2011
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ocharles
have experience with it?
2011-05-23 14357, 2011
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ruaok
musecore are MB friends too
2011-05-23 14330, 2011
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ocharles
lilypond has crashed compiling the intro, I think I'll try musescore first
2011-05-23 14339, 2011
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ocharles keeps playing it over and over again before he forgets it
2011-05-23 14340, 2011
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alastairp
ocharles: I know a few of the devs
2011-05-23 14344, 2011
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reosarevok
Everyone is friends with MB lately
2011-05-23 14346, 2011
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ocharles
actual paper would probably really help here :P
2011-05-23 14352, 2011
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alastairp
ocharles: heard of manuscript paper? :)
2011-05-23 14358, 2011
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ocharles
i'm out of it :(
2011-05-23 14359, 2011
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reosarevok
ocharles: don't you own ANY paper?
2011-05-23 14300, 2011
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alastairp
I have an awesome 5-line postscript file
2011-05-23 14305, 2011
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reosarevok
Not even TOILET paper?
2011-05-23 14306, 2011
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alastairp
that has staff paper on it
2011-05-23 14309, 2011
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ocharles
haha
2011-05-23 14312, 2011
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alastairp
postscript is awesome
2011-05-23 14324, 2011
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reosarevok leaves notes to his flatmate on toilet paper
2011-05-23 14326, 2011
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ocharles
ok, I have paper, but adding lines and stuff is a pain
