#musicbrainz-devel

heh. I'll try and put my thoughts up on a wiki page

nikki: it wasn't changed from what I know.

this is how its always worked.

the only thing that was changed as the notice at the top. and the border around non verified pages.

well, we all agree that its a bit of a mess. lets look at it then.

Ok

reosarevok: +1

last, but not least BBC editors.

was that you reosarevok ?

It was me

But it was more what we have talked a bit already in private

And it was added when I thought the journalists did the adding

If that's not the case, stuff changes

its actually a company outside the BBC that does most of the editing of MB data these days.

all under direction from the BBC.

mike diver is one such person.

he's not a direct BBC employess as I understand it.

It goes from "people doing stuff that is only marginally their work, getting community hate" to "people doing their work not too well, getting community hate"

None of them is ideal

agreed.

we're going to have a meeting on this in london.

in Jan.

and I have a feeling it might be a good idea for you to be there reosarevok.

:p

Tallinn - London is cheap

So I can do it

we'd pay, of course.

Oh

Well, "we" are poor

ok, lets leave it be for now. we're over time.

So the cheapness still counts :p

I appreciate that.

:D

ok, donuts mr warp.

yes, sir!

I'm looking forward to you being in a closer timezeon to me, warp.

thanks for everyone's time.

lots and lots of stuff going on.

hopefully things will calm down a little next week. :)

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ruaok: alex has arranged an office and a taxi to take me there each day.

nikki, ocharles, ijabz_, luks: mind if I fetch some noms before we dive in?

warp: awesome. :)

sure

ruaok: so I should have very predictable working hours.

np

uh oh

luks: ?

you mean for the release or something else?

ruaok: something like 8:00 ECT -> 17:00 ECT. ( 5:00 PST -> 14:00 PST I think?)

oh, schema changes?

for me finding the script for autoeditor stuffs.

oh

you just need me to send the live version of rsync-automods-list right?

depending on the content of the file you find :)

maybe I'll need more

k.

I'll do that first thing after my belly stops yelling at me.

brb

He should just create a Sleng-Pri-Yong device that teleports him around :)

Or something

he needs to be able to drive to the place where he can renew his driver's license.

Oh

It's a shame his Ivory Tower is so far

If it wasn't, he could take a taxi

:)

reosarevok: he tries to limit communication with commoners.

reosarevok: I assume taxi-drivers are classified as commoners.

Ooops

True

:)

if he were so special, he would be able to fly

If he was truly amazing, he'd not have a license

Like all the amazing people I know who don't have a license

That being... err... nikki, do you have a license?

I have a provisional one that I used to use for id (way cheaper than replacing my passport if I lose it)

but I've never had a driving lesson and I can't use it to drive here as far as I know

Ok

That being nikki and me! :)

so effectively "no" :P

I got an international one today.

Oh, come on, warp, don't be so harsh to yourself

You are amazng

*amazing

Just not truly amazing

:)

luks, ocharles: the rsync automods stuff is in a mail to you.

ok, that was sorted.

ocharles: what data needs to move from where to totoro?

all the auto mod tables need to be synced

(just sync against the public tables, luks has written migration scripts)

which tables exactly?

ruaok: so the script from git is not used at all?

not sure, this is what I found on scooby.

because this makes it even more confusing for me :)

ruaok: autoeditor_election and autoeditor_election_vote I believe

I really know very little about this stuff.

luks: heh. I really have no idea. we need to ping djce on this.

ruaok: also, #content { border-radius: 1em; } on coverartarchive.org :)

picky.

border-radius works wonders

takes any design straight from web 1.0 to 2.0 or your money back!

Oh, that reminds me of people complaining storing music in the Archive is a mess

(netlabel people)

So you should clearly convince them to integrate *that* with MB

It would also be a mess, but a more ordered mess :)

netlabel people \o/

For some reason I just read "old people burning" (with hands raised up)

warp, this netlabel in particular: http://www.blacklanternmusic.com/index2.php

(oh, new stuff out!)

ah, I don't know that one.

(in general there is too much interesting music in the world to keep track of :)

It's run by a guy from Edinburgh I know from the Warren Ellis forums

(which is why I know about it)

ruaok: YOU have 5 minutes yet ?

finishing dozens of thigns right now.

soon!

ok, ijabz? whats up?

well reload seems to contain new records but also old ones

so the reload isn't clean?

not sure how this can happen but it does, this query http://musicbrainz.org/ws/2/artist/?query=dubhe was returning the same artist twice earlier today

but not anymore

seems not, but doesn't make any sense to me Im trying to get some help from lucene guys

thats really weird.

but in the meantime might help if we could start stop the tomcat servers even so often until have a solution

thats really hard.

when it was returning the same artist, it had different country in each entry, so seemed that the artist had been changed and it was still hanging onto old entry

if we want to do it cleanly, we need to take them out of rotation from the load balancer. and then put them back in.

Alternatively we could try putting the init=mmap line back into the script

Because init recreates should recreate the index searches

I wonder if there is some problem with how the new indexes are copied over

there isn't.

Ive checked and checked and checked that.

md5 sum over the whole tree.