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      • nikki
        ocharles: there are still 3 urls in the db with no relationships :/
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      • ruaok
        nikki: I just met someone you'd get along with great.
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      • ruaok
        she's into loads of j-pop and uses musicbrainz. :)
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      • navap
        ruaok: In Jan 2007, mb_server was moved off of stimpy right? Where did it move to?
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      • navap
        Oh wait, no. Was it the stats that were turned off for a few months in Jan 2007?
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      • navap
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      • ruaok
        stimpy crashed for a few weeks in 2007
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      • ruaok
        but after dell shipped us a new mobo, he came back.
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      • ruaok
        and is still running mb_server in the form of classic
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      • navap
        So the main site was on stimpy from Jun 2002 to Sep 2009, then it was switched to zaphod where it is currently. Does that sound right?
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      • navap
        Where does lingling fit in?
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      • ruaok
        its not as simple as that.
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      • ruaok
        because "site" means multiple servers past 2002.
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      • ruaok
        so before NGS, tails, stimpy, dexter, asterix, cartman and moose were all running the site.
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      • ruaok
        zaphod is the dual headed front end for carl/lenny.
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      • ruaok
        we only talk about zaphod. zaphod can be passed back and forth between carl and lenny. if one fails, 100ms or so later the other will assume zaphod.
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      • ruaok
        its kinda cool and djce got the naming right. :)
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      • ruaok
        so, stimpy has been a web server of sorts since we got him in 2005. save for a few months in 2007.
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      • navap
        So how do the stats for stimpy go back as far as Jun 2002?
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      • navap
        (according to stats.mb)
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      • ruaok ponders how to explain it
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      • ruaok
        lets say that the stats dont have an accurate view of how things really break down.
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      • navap
        hm
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      • navap
        So if I wanted to add stats from before 2007, what would you suggest?
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      • ruaok
        stats sees DNS hosts and we arbitrarily move shit around behind the scenes.
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      • ruaok
        lemme look
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      • navap
        I also need the hosting and hardware cost for 2010 from you 
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      • navap
        Or can I grab that from the 2010 finances?
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      • ruaok
        gimme an OTHER ticket please. tell me what you need and I'll dig.
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      • ruaok
        possibly.
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      • ruaok
        I need to see which categories fed into that.
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      • ruaok
        I don't have the books here atm, so OTHER me please
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      • navap
        okay
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      • ruaok
        so, use stimpy for stats before zaphod was around.
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      • navap
        Okay
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      • ruaok
        if you find odd jumps in data if you graph it, grab me.
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      • ruaok
        but I think this should give a decent picture
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      • navap
        The values in the 2009 report for hosting and hardware match the same named values in the 2009 profit/loss.
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      • navap
        Should I use those same figures from the 2010 profit/loss?
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      • navap
        Or should i leave an OTHER for you to confirm it later on?
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      • ruaok
        go ahead and use it.
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      • ruaok
        OTHER me for things that still need looking up.
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      • navap
        In 2010 we received ~$6900 through paypal and paid them ~$1300 in fees. That's almost 20%!
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      • ianmcorvidae
        navap: what're you working on? clearly I missed something in the meeting today :)
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      • navap
        I was working on a spreadsheet for the 2010 annual report.
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      • navap
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      • navap
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      • ianmcorvidae
        ah :)
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      • navap
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      • warp
        hello!
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      • nikki
        can someone make a blog post about the server release?
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      • ocharles
        nikki: I was going to do that once we got this nasty RE bug fixed
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      • ocharles
        any update on that warp?
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      • reosarevok
        What bug is that?
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      • ocharles
        the one that's stopping people editing releases
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      • ocharles
        I think it only happens if you add a release note, but I dunno
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      • reosarevok
        Oh
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      • reosarevok didn't edit any releases today he guesses
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      • ocharles is loving working with mysql-workbench
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      • ocharles
        it's got this awesome feature where it just crashes and loses all your work
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      • ocharles
        I guess that's meant to match using MySQL
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      • reosarevok cries because of having to move a whole album to the right artist with the same name
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      • reosarevok
        It was so easy before we had to change 12 recordings too :p
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      • reosarevok
        ocharles, what do you mean with a release note?
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      • reosarevok
        An edit note?
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      • reosarevok
        An annotation?
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      • ocharles
        edit note, yes
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      • reosarevok
        Ok
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      • reosarevok doesn't enter one then
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      • nikki closes another three tickets reporting the release editor crashing and wonders if anyone's heard anything from warp yet :P
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      • ocharles
        is he flying today or tomorrow?
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      • nikki
        dunno
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      • nikki
        if he is, can you fix it?
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      • ocharles
        I might have time soon, yea
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      • ocharles
        I'll go ring him now
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      • ocharles
        can't get through :(
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      • nikki closes a fourth ticket
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      • reosarevok
        Tomorrow in theory
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      • ruaok hopes for a more calm day today.
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      • nikki
        depends whether we get the release editor fixed or not :P
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      • ruaok
        ugh.
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      • ruaok
        does warp have a fix yet?
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      • nikki
        we haven't heard from him
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      • ocharles
        i can't get through to him on phone
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      • ocharles
        i'll take it into my own hands soon if I don't hear from him
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      • ruaok
        please do. we have to assume that he is super busy leaving the country for 6 months.
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      • ruaok
        and that we may not hear from him until… fri.
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      • ruaok
        ocharles: I doubt there is, but can I do anything to help?
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      • ruaok
        gather server logs? review code?
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      • ocharles
        hrm, nothing that I need atm
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      • ocharles
        nah, we saw it in server logs yesterday during update
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      • ruaok
        shout if you do.
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      • ocharles
        doesn't give a useful stack trace
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      • ocharles
        will do. deciphering this haskell brainteaser first
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      • MBChatLogger
        Honey badger don't care!!
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      • ocharles
        vector normalization with a single loop and no mutation. it's an interesting little badger!
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      • ruaok
        I see. honey badge r is not into haskell.
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      • ocharles
        honey badg'r writes haskell in its sleep, it just don't care
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      • warp
        ruaok: hello!
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      • warp
        ruaok: I have not read the backscroll, but I have a fix for something.
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      • nikki
        hi warp!
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      • ruaok
        yay
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      • warp
        those changes are pushed as "trytiny-hotfix"
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      • warp
        I have to run out for a bit again, I'll be back in an hour or so.
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      • ocharles
        warp: wait, can we deploy them?
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      • ruaok
        ocharles: you can test them.
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      • ruaok
        thats a starting point.
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      • ruaok
        or can you not duplicate the problem?
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      • ocharles
        well I'm at last.fm on my laptop, it's not really set up for MB...
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      • ocharles
        but I should be able to test it
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      • ocharles
        can't guarantee i'll reproduce it :)
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      • nikki
        ruaok: btw do you know the username of the person you mentioned?
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      • ruaok
        I failed to ask her. :-(
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      • nikki
        aww :<
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      • ruaok
        but, would you like me to make an email intro?
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      • ruaok
        I could also ask her what her name is. :)
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      • ruaok
        I'll just go do that. :)
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      • nikki giggles
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      • nikki
        I was mostly wondering if she's the same person I've seen editing lately
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      • ruaok
        joanna micco is her name.
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