#musicbrainz-devel

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      • reosarevok
        )
      • 2011-11-02 30649, 2011

      • navap misses the convenience of face to face interaction :(
      • 2011-11-02 30656, 2011

      • navap
        Typing thoughts out sucks.
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      • reosarevok
        A bit, yeah...
      • 2011-11-02 30615, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But I guess we have to do with what we have
      • 2011-11-02 30626, 2011

      • navap
        If we modify links and make them external wiki links, do you think that would be odd when a user's browsing /doc and then all of a sudden ends up browsing on our wiki?
      • 2011-11-02 30650, 2011

      • ijabz_
        but typing something and having 36 people hear it is quite useful
      • 2011-11-02 30607, 2011

      • reosarevok
        navap, maybe
      • 2011-11-02 30615, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But it can be documented as the way doc works :p
      • 2011-11-02 30621, 2011

      • reosarevok
        I don't think it is ideal
      • 2011-11-02 30630, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But it is better than displaying all the userspace
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      • reosarevok
        which kinda makes it feel as if we were endorsing its contents
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      • navap
        One thought I had was to create (yet another) namespace for just content that is available on /doc. If a page isn't in that namespace it won't load and any links to non-doc namespace articles are automatically removed (like we remove broken links)
      • 2011-11-02 30626, 2011

      • bitmap
        warp: want me to just discard that review given that the code will be changed a lot, and the diff there is obsolete?
      • 2011-11-02 30643, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Hmm
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      • reosarevok
        I could see that working in an ideal wiki but ours is far from that
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      • reosarevok
        I mean, it involves reviewing every page and deeming it doc-(un)worthy
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      • bitmap
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      • navap
        Which is really not that hard. We'd start with everything in the wikidoc table and then add other pages only when necessary.
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      • reosarevok
        So you'd keep the /doc part only for actual documentation?
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      • reosarevok
        (and a few other things)
      • 2011-11-02 30604, 2011

      • reosarevok
        That would definitely make sense to me
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      • navap
        Yes. Like you said, only for things we actually endorse
      • 2011-11-02 30617, 2011

      • reosarevok
        It might even make me start seeing the point of the whole /doc thingy
      • 2011-11-02 30618, 2011

      • reosarevok
        :p
      • 2011-11-02 30621, 2011

      • navap
        Yeah
      • 2011-11-02 30619, 2011

      • reosarevok guesses that's something to be discussed at next meeting though?
      • 2011-11-02 30642, 2011

      • navap
        Yes
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      • reosarevok
        You could add a ticket for it :)
      • 2011-11-02 30604, 2011

      • navap
        It would be very similar to how we'd put the metabrainz pages into the wiki.
      • 2011-11-02 30628, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Would a namespace be the right way though?
      • 2011-11-02 30634, 2011

      • reosarevok was thinking of just a category
      • 2011-11-02 30642, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Can't it be done with that?
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      • navap
        It could, but I think it's much clearer if it's done either via a separate namespace or by nesting everything under one page.
      • 2011-11-02 30655, 2011

      • navap
        That way the url itself is different and it's more obvious.
      • 2011-11-02 30604, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Hmm
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      • navap
        I'd be against the nesting method though.
      • 2011-11-02 30613, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But it would mean we'd have
      • 2011-11-02 30623, 2011

      • reosarevok
        "Whatever:Style/Titles/Whatever2"?
      • 2011-11-02 30647, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Or are you proposing "Style:Titles/Whatever2"?
      • 2011-11-02 30657, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (and "Documentation:Whatever"?
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      • reosarevok
        )
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      • reosarevok
        The problem with that way would be the difficulty of finding the right "box" to put some pages
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      • navap
        I don't think we need to separate style pages from other pages available on /doc. 
      • 2011-11-02 30633, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Sure
      • 2011-11-02 30644, 2011

      • reosarevok
        But the style pages have crazy names already
      • 2011-11-02 30653, 2011

      • reosarevok
        Without them having *also* a namespace...
      • 2011-11-02 30655, 2011

      • navap
        I'd use Doc as the namespace. (WikiDoc would be annoying to type out all the time)
      • 2011-11-02 30619, 2011

      • warp
        bitmap: if the diff is obsolete, yes, discard the review.
      • 2011-11-02 30631, 2011

      • warp
        bitmap: just submit a new one later.
      • 2011-11-02 30611, 2011

      • bitmap
        warp: okay. provided review board works with Picard still :P
      • 2011-11-02 30609, 2011

      • bitmap
        not that it did to begin with, but I’d think it should be easier to fix now that it's on git
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      • reosarevok looks at http://www.tunecore.com/songwriters and wonders if it will actually work
      • 2011-11-02 30619, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (not that I am a songwriter anyway, but I'm curious)
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      • ocharles
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      • warp
        ocharles: one issue mentioned in a post on mb-users I need to double check.
      • 2011-11-02 30651, 2011

      • warp
        ocharles: I'll put that on my TODO for tomorrow.
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      • ijabz_
        ocharles, did you sort the database on test ?
      • 2011-11-02 30630, 2011

      • ocharles
        ijabz_: still going
      • 2011-11-02 30633, 2011

      • ocharles
        ijabz_: on 3rd attempt :(
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      • ocharles
        first failed because the server was running/cron jobs were on. then it failed because I imported on next instead of master
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      • ocharles
        this one should get it
      • 2011-11-02 30615, 2011

      • ijabz_
        its the seemingly straight forward things that get you
      • 2011-11-02 30619, 2011

      • reosarevok
        ocharles, did you merge the two codereviews I asked for in the end?
      • 2011-11-02 30634, 2011

      • ocharles
        ijabz_: :)
      • 2011-11-02 30651, 2011

      • reosarevok
        (they both need the new database anyway, just asking)
      • 2011-11-02 30653, 2011

      • ocharles
        reosarevok: no, I haven't done that, but I am working on reviews today. I'm on lukas' atm, when I get to yours I will merge them
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      • ocharles
        I will be clearing next as well, and setting that back up
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      • MBChatLogger
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      • Mineo
        hm, does anybody know which base directory I'm supposed to use on codereview.mb.org for python-musicbrainz2?
      • 2011-11-02 30638, 2011

      • ruaok
        which repository?
      • 2011-11-02 30617, 2011

      • Mineo
        Python Musicbrainz
      • 2011-11-02 30629, 2011

      • Mineo
        (if that's the one for python-musicbrainz2)
      • 2011-11-02 30640, 2011

      • ruaok
        yeah, I would think so.
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      • ruaok
        if its not, it will barf, so no reason not to try it
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      • Mineo
        it's already barfing, that's why I'm askin :)
      • 2011-11-02 30617, 2011

      • warp
        Mineo: if you cannot get code review to not barf, just link to a changeset (e.g. on github) in the review itself.
      • 2011-11-02 30648, 2011

      • Mineo
        I can't create a review at all
      • 2011-11-02 30655, 2011

      • warp
        ah
      • 2011-11-02 30637, 2011

      • ocharles
        Mineo: might be easier to just use mb-devel if you're having troubles
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      • ocharles
        python-musicbrainz2 is for http://svn.musicbrainz.org/python-musicbrainz2/ fwiw
      • 2011-11-02 30632, 2011

      • Mineo
        that's what I was going to do if asking here didn't bring up any results
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      • ocharles
        Mineo: what path are you using?
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      • ocharles
        (base directory)
      • 2011-11-02 30630, 2011

      • Mineo
        I tried that svn url, ., /
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      • ocharles
        try /trunk
      • 2011-11-02 30650, 2011

      • ocharles
        or 'trunk'
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      • ocharles
        I have a hard time getting svn patches up against the xml schema
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      • Mineo
        both trunk and /trunk didn't work either
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      • Mineo starts mutt
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      • ocharles
        ** I have just reset the next branch **
      • 2011-11-02 30634, 2011

      • ocharles
        a quick fyi if anyone was going to work with that at all
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      • ocharles
        hobbes is indexing the new data atm
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      • reosarevok
        :)
      • 2011-11-02 30658, 2011

      • ruaok
        ijabz_: ping
      • 2011-11-02 30630, 2011

      • ocharles
        test.musicbrainz.org is back up with fresh data, and a reset `next`
      • 2011-11-02 30643, 2011

      • ocharles
        i lie, it's not starting up
      • 2011-11-02 30646, 2011

      • ocharles
        all done
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      • nikki
        finally
      • 2011-11-02 30606, 2011

      • nikki is glad to see the last of the narrow windows :P
      • 2011-11-02 30636, 2011

      • ocharles
        :)
      • 2011-11-02 30644, 2011

      • ocharles
        reosarevok has broken the artist index page though
      • 2011-11-02 30609, 2011

      • nikki
        yay
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      • ruaok
        and its snappy. :)
      • 2011-11-02 30623, 2011

      • ruaok
        ijabz_: ping ding ding!
      • 2011-11-02 30650, 2011

      • navap wonders why we have musicbrainz.org mentioned in DB_STAGING_SERVER_DESCRIPTION
      • 2011-11-02 30609, 2011

      • navap
        And what should I do if my merge conflict was handled incorrectly?
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      • ijabz_
        ruaok: pong dong dong
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      • ruaok
        lol
      • 2011-11-02 30656, 2011

      • ruaok
        what was the reload url again?
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      • ijabz_
        been out trying to burn off some calories
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      • ijabz_
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      • ijabz_
        if that the right port
      • 2011-11-02 30612, 2011

      • ocharles
        navap: bug the person who cocked the merge up :)
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      • navap gently pokes warp again
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      • ruaok
        ijabz_: do I need to re-do the mmap call if I do a reload?
      • 2011-11-02 30601, 2011

      • ijabz_
        no
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      • ruaok
        ok.
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      • ruaok
        can you do me a favor and make mmap the default on the branch you made?
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      • ijabz_
        reload just updates modified parts of the existing index
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      • ijabz_
        ok
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      • ruaok
        thx
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      • ruaok
        I tried one reload and that slightly increased the load.
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      • ruaok
        I'm watching it now.
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      • apx has left the channel
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      • ruaok fetches some noms
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      • ijabz_
        ruaok: checked in the mmap as default
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      • warp was poked.
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      • warp
        navap: oh, right, what did I get wrong?
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      • navap
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      • navap
        I was adding the IF statemnt, not taking it out.
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      • warp
        navap: ah
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      • warp
        that first link is empty for me.
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      • warp
        "master is up to date with all commits from nitpick-2011-10. Try switching the base for your comparison. "
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      • warp
        navap: so I just need to put the if statement back in, that's everything?
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      • navap
        Yeah
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      • navap
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      • navap
        Thanks!
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      • warp
        navap: ok, pushed. (commit 87cdee195b7bac547345e7dba5c03f976917d2d5).
      • 2011-11-02 30618, 2011

      • warp
        navap: thanks for noticing :)
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      • ruaok returns
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      • ruaok
        ijabz_: r13318 ?
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      • ijabz_
        yes