#musicbrainz-devel

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      • aCiD2
        ruaok: who are neil and myers?

        • 2010-01-14 01435, 2010

      • ruaok
        the demand for us to tweet the b1 annoucnment was awesome.

        • 2010-01-14 01445, 2010

      • djce
        ooh, names from the past.

        • 2010-01-14 01448, 2010

      • djce gets shivers

        • 2010-01-14 01449, 2010

      • ruaok
        cafferkey and carpenter?

        • 2010-01-14 01451, 2010

      • djce
        :-)

        • 2010-01-14 01456, 2010

      • ruaok
        hi djce

        • 2010-01-14 01400, 2010

      • aCiD2
        djce: I'm writing authors.txt for svn -> git migration :)

        • 2010-01-14 01401, 2010

      • djce
        hi

        • 2010-01-14 01402, 2010

      • ruaok
        yeah, old skool.

        • 2010-01-14 01414, 2010

      • ruaok
        cafferkey was our first style dude.

        • 2010-01-14 01421, 2010

      • ruaok
        but he dropped off after graduating uni.

        • 2010-01-14 01433, 2010

      • ruaok
        myers? kids, I think.

        • 2010-01-14 01440, 2010

      • ruaok
        kids ruin the best people sometimes.

        • 2010-01-14 01448, 2010

      • aCiD2 can imagine

        • 2010-01-14 01458, 2010

      • ruaok
        heh. Fred von Lohmann at the EFF once made a request of me.

        • 2010-01-14 01403, 2010

      • aCiD2
        MBChatLogger: off

        • 2010-01-14 01403, 2010

      • MBChatLogger
        is not logging

        • 2010-01-14 01411, 2010

      • MBChatLogger
        is logging

        • 2010-01-14 01422, 2010

      • ruaok
        fred: for the sake of MB, don't have kids!

        • 2010-01-14 01426, 2010

      • ruaok
        heh. :)

        • 2010-01-14 01426, 2010

      • aCiD2
        haha

        • 2010-01-14 01403, 2010

      • ruaok
        nuke g0llum

        • 2010-01-14 01408, 2010

      • aCiD2
        can't, he has commits

        • 2010-01-14 01415, 2010

      • ruaok
        oh.

        • 2010-01-14 01422, 2010

      • aCiD2
        it'll merge him into the same person though, so np

        • 2010-01-14 01435, 2010

      • ruaok
        kevin = Kevin Murphy (kevin at eorbit frot net)

        • 2010-01-14 01440, 2010

      • aCiD2
        danke

        • 2010-01-14 01433, 2010

      • ruaok
        I'll pmesg the other emails

        • 2010-01-14 01441, 2010

      • aCiD2
        kewl

        • 2010-01-14 01459, 2010

      • aCiD2
        djce: any chance you could get me a svn dump?

        • 2010-01-14 01410, 2010

      • aCiD2
        or if I could make it myself

        • 2010-01-14 01424, 2010

      • djce
        Whole repo, all changes?

        • 2010-01-14 01413, 2010

      • djce
        What's the plan, converting whole repo to git?

        • 2010-01-14 01447, 2010

      • aCiD2
        Yea, I wanna have a play converting mb_server to git with branches for now

        • 2010-01-14 01412, 2010

      • djce
        Not sure if that is possible.

        • 2010-01-14 01427, 2010

      • djce
        But the main svn repo doesn't contain any secrets, IIRC

        • 2010-01-14 01434, 2010

      • djce
        so whole repo it is.

        • 2010-01-14 01440, 2010

      • djce dumps

        • 2010-01-14 01400, 2010

      • aCiD2
        :)

        • 2010-01-14 01410, 2010

      • aCiD2
        this should be a lot faster than pulling each revision off teh interwebz

        • 2010-01-14 01411, 2010

      • ruaok
        secrets in SVN is plain dumb.

        • 2010-01-14 01421, 2010

      • ruaok
        but that hasn't stopped us in the past. :)

        • 2010-01-14 01429, 2010

      • ruaok
        recall project asshat.

        • 2010-01-14 01440, 2010

      • djce
        470MB /home/djce/svn.dump

        • 2010-01-14 01443, 2010

      • ruaok
        open source camouflage.

        • 2010-01-14 01444, 2010

      • djce
        where would you like it?

        • 2010-01-14 01453, 2010

      • ruaok bites his tounge

        • 2010-01-14 01457, 2010

      • aCiD2
        haha

        • 2010-01-14 01414, 2010

      • aCiD2
        I don't think I can ssh to that server, does it have a web server?

        • 2010-01-14 01433, 2010

      • djce checks what servers are around

        • 2010-01-14 01446, 2010

      • aCiD2
        unless just adduser and letting my rsync is easier :)

        • 2010-01-14 01456, 2010

      • ruaok
        did we ever come up with a solution for letting peeps get to scooby?

        • 2010-01-14 01404, 2010

      • ruaok
        aCiD2 and warp need scooby accounts.

        • 2010-01-14 01406, 2010

      • djce
        ssh ?

        • 2010-01-14 01409, 2010

      • ruaok
        yep

        • 2010-01-14 01419, 2010

      • djce
        Yes, via zaphod, no?

        • 2010-01-14 01423, 2010

      • ruaok
        eys

        • 2010-01-14 01427, 2010

      • ruaok
        yes, even.

        • 2010-01-14 01438, 2010

      • djce
        Or did I lock the firewall down too much? :-)

        • 2010-01-14 01453, 2010

      • ruaok
        well, I don't really care to give two accounts.

        • 2010-01-14 01408, 2010

      • ruaok
        I dont think anyone not involved in ops needs to have a carl/lenny account.

        • 2010-01-14 01422, 2010

      • ruaok
        though having warp in on ops in the future makes mucho sense.

        • 2010-01-14 01431, 2010

      • ruaok
        he's got ops experience.

        • 2010-01-14 01457, 2010

      • djce
        Well, several possible approaches then:

        • 2010-01-14 01407, 2010

      • djce
        - NAT to scooby

        • 2010-01-14 01417, 2010

      • djce
        - vpn

        • 2010-01-14 01436, 2010

      • djce
        damn. forgot it.

        • 2010-01-14 01440, 2010

      • ruaok
        how much work is the NAT to scooby?

        • 2010-01-14 01408, 2010

      • djce
        Depends if it's open to all IPs or not. Opening it up == bad security,

        • 2010-01-14 01412, 2010

      • djce
        since we can't update scooby.

        • 2010-01-14 01423, 2010

      • djce
        So, not a problem, for whitelisted IP ranges.

        • 2010-01-14 01433, 2010

      • ruaok
        :-9

        • 2010-01-14 01434, 2010

      • djce has that in place already, for my IPs, of course :-)

        • 2010-01-14 01434, 2010

      • ruaok
        :-(

        • 2010-01-14 01444, 2010

      • djce
        hence why zaphod exits.

        • 2010-01-14 01445, 2010

      • djce
        exists.

        • 2010-01-14 01449, 2010

      • ruaok
        white listed ips are hard. I don't have any static ips in my arsenal.

        • 2010-01-14 01452, 2010

      • zenkat joined the channel

        • 2010-01-14 01456, 2010

      • djce
        hence the vpn.

        • 2010-01-14 01418, 2010

      • djce
        aCiD2: http://users.musicbrainz.org/~dave/svn.dump

        • 2010-01-14 01424, 2010

      • ruaok
        how much work is it to install the VPN client? I've never done that.

        • 2010-01-14 01427, 2010

      • aCiD2
        thanks djce !

        • 2010-01-14 01447, 2010

      • nikki wonders what's with her in that list

        • 2010-01-14 01450, 2010

      • aCiD2
        ruaok: vpn client is built into osx and works a treat, I use it to connect to my uni network. I dunno about setting it up on a server though

        • 2010-01-14 01450, 2010

      • djce
        That file will disappear 48 hours from now. Is that enough?

        • 2010-01-14 01459, 2010

      • aCiD2
        nikki: did I get it wrong?

        • 2010-01-14 01402, 2010

      • aCiD2
        djce: plenty

        • 2010-01-14 01407, 2010

      • djce
        ace.

        • 2010-01-14 01414, 2010

      • nikki
        I don't know. I just clicked a link and saw me in it

        • 2010-01-14 01420, 2010

      • nikki
        and one of my email addresses

        • 2010-01-14 01426, 2010

      • ruaok
        djce: then lets go with the VPN solution.

        • 2010-01-14 01435, 2010

      • ruaok
        nikki: svn committers

        • 2010-01-14 01442, 2010

      • ruaok
        and giving credit.

        • 2010-01-14 01443, 2010

      • nikki
        can you remove my email address then?

        • 2010-01-14 01449, 2010

      • aCiD2
        sure can

        • 2010-01-14 01400, 2010

      • ruaok
        yeah, in general I wonder why we need to have emails in there.

        • 2010-01-14 01412, 2010

      • aCiD2
        it'sjust git practice

        • 2010-01-14 01414, 2010

      • zenkat
        in ngs, there are release_groups and releases. However, in the (old/current) MB web client, there seems to be some logic that groups releases with the same tracks together on a single page ( http://musicbrainz.org/release/4800c809-f22f-4aee… ).

        • 2010-01-14 01422, 2010

      • aCiD2
        email address is a pretty good unique identifier I guess

        • 2010-01-14 01427, 2010

      • ruaok
        aCiD2: ah

        • 2010-01-14 01430, 2010

      • zenkat
        Is this only an artifact of the UI?

        • 2010-01-14 01436, 2010

      • nikki
        no

        • 2010-01-14 01441, 2010

      • nikki
        that's the way the data is currently structured

        • 2010-01-14 01459, 2010

      • zenkat
        will the NGS UI show the data differently?

        • 2010-01-14 01425, 2010

      • nikki
        well it changes the structure, so yes

        • 2010-01-14 01434, 2010

      • aCiD2
        schema explaining time!

        • 2010-01-14 01441, 2010

      • zenkat
        hooray!

        • 2010-01-14 01448, 2010

      • zenkat
        ;-)

        • 2010-01-14 01430, 2010

      • aCiD2
        have you seen the schema diagram?

        • 2010-01-14 01448, 2010

      • zenkat
        yes, and I've been playing with SQL quite a bit

        • 2010-01-14 01454, 2010

      • djce
        So, the VPN is openvpn, for which packages exist on Debian and download is available for Windows.

        • 2010-01-14 01410, 2010

      • aCiD2
        zenkat: good stuff

        • 2010-01-14 01418, 2010

      • aCiD2 is happy there's been so much recent "fiddlers"

        • 2010-01-14 01421, 2010

      • djce
        Is that a problem for whoever needs access?

        • 2010-01-14 01450, 2010

      • zenkat
        yes, it's been working pretty well

        • 2010-01-14 01411, 2010

      • djce
        (i.e. specifically: I don't know about mac. google?)

        • 2010-01-14 01422, 2010

      • zenkat
        so in the new NGS UI, will there just be a release group page that lists all releases under it?

        • 2010-01-14 01428, 2010

      • aCiD2
        djce: My mac connects to our uni vpn flawlessly... is vpn not a standard?

        • 2010-01-14 01434, 2010

      • ruaok
        djce: doesn't sound like it.

        • 2010-01-14 01442, 2010

      • aCiD2
        zenkat: look for yourself :) http://test.musicbrainz.org

        • 2010-01-14 01448, 2010

      • aCiD2
        that's running ngs

        • 2010-01-14 01452, 2010

      • aCiD2
        damn that felt good to say

        • 2010-01-14 01404, 2010

      • zenkat
        SWEET

        • 2010-01-14 01408, 2010

      • navap
        nikki: Did you submit a patch for this? http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/5575

        • 2010-01-14 01411, 2010

      • ruaok
        aCiD2: can you plz update test with search stuff?

        • 2010-01-14 01416, 2010

      • aCiD2
        ruaok: okies

        • 2010-01-14 01422, 2010

      • ruaok
        I'll make sure my search is publicly accessible. one sec

        • 2010-01-14 01432, 2010

      • aCiD2
        really have to get this running automagically..

        • 2010-01-14 01441, 2010

      • zenkat
        @aCiD2: a picture is worth a thousand words

        • 2010-01-14 01446, 2010

      • zenkat
        many many thanks

        • 2010-01-14 01452, 2010

      • zenkat
        congrats on NGS beta!

        • 2010-01-14 01416, 2010

      • aCiD2
        :)

        • 2010-01-14 01429, 2010

      • ruaok
        aCiD2: my seach server is on http://musicbrainz.homeip.net:8080/

        • 2010-01-14 01438, 2010

      • ruaok
        zenkat: :-)

        • 2010-01-14 01444, 2010

      • ruaok
        we're pretty stoked to be getting here.

        • 2010-01-14 01454, 2010

      • ruaok
        3 years of discussion and 1.5 years of coding.

        • 2010-01-14 01406, 2010

      • ruaok
        pactically half of MB's life. :)

        • 2010-01-14 01416, 2010

      • aCiD2
        ruaok: sub LUCENE_SERVER { "musicbrainz.homeip.net:8080" }

        • 2010-01-14 01425, 2010

      • ruaok
        sweet

        • 2010-01-14 01438, 2010

      • zenkat
        schema migrations are not easy ... but NGS is looking pretty damn clean

        • 2010-01-14 01439, 2010

      • zenkat
        nice work

        • 2010-01-14 01410, 2010

      • aCiD2
        alright, restarting the server now

        • 2010-01-14 01452, 2010

      • nikki
        navap: I gave aCiD2 one, I don't know what he's done with it

        • 2010-01-14 01407, 2010

      • aCiD2
        and... it didn't work

        • 2010-01-14 01412, 2010

      • ruaok
        zenkat: many people had input on the schema. but most of the credit for making the schema clean and real goes to luks

        • 2010-01-14 01403, 2010

      • aCiD2
        ok, test back up with indexed searching

        • 2010-01-14 01420, 2010

      • ruaok
        hah.

        • 2010-01-14 01429, 2010

      • aCiD2
        ruaok: the top search still seems to default to direct search for me

        • 2010-01-14 01441, 2010

      • ruaok
        to carry out that search, the request goes to LA. the search request comes back to my desk and goes to LA. Then LA sends the results to me.