#musicbrainz-devel

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      • ruaok
        navap: committed and pushed live.
      • navap
        Thanks
      • ruaok
        np. thanks for the patch.
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      • brianfreud
        acid2: Re MBS-259, I just tried it myself, and yes, it doesn't act as I'd expect it to (ie, I agree with nikki)
      • Though, reading your comments, I think you're expecting something different than I, in terms of what would be highlighted
      • It sounds as though you read the ticket as expecting the recording to be highlighted. I read the ticket (and myself would expect) such that the PUID, not the recording, would be the highlighted thing on the recording page.
      • Imagine a recording with 20 PUIDs; say, a Beatles track. 10 of those are x-linked to other recordings as well, and you've been able to verify, between the x-links and your own tracks that 15 of the 20 are bogus. Highlighted PUIDs that are being removed would better allow you to see which you've already put in an edit to remove, vs those which are as of yet untouched.
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      • nikki
        ruaok: is mbdump-stats.tar.bz2 public domain or cc?
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      • navap
        I've dove into Git a little today!
      • Is this patch in the right format? http://xabbu.net/_/alias
      • brianfreud
        Can someone remind me, what's the name of the wiki package we're using now?
      • navap
        MediaWiki?
      • brianfreud
        thanks
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      • ruaok
        nikki: what does COPYING say in the dump file?
      • nikki goes to download it to find out
      • I've got it local.
      • nikki
        it only takes a second, it's not that big :P
      • ruaok
        cc
      • nikki
        ah
      • I was wondering 'cause it was missing from the wiki page for some reason so I wasn't sure which section to put it under
      • navap
        What does the number at the end of the URL signify? A revision number? http://test.musicbrainz.org/artist/c954d136-c7f...
      • nikki
        probably the row id of the annotation
      • ruaok
        navap: I'm guessing its the roid
      • ruaok nods at nikki
      • which is somewhat bad form since rowids should never be exposed in URLs, but we don't have a UUID for an annotation
      • navap
        How about just leaving it as /annotation ?
      • It's unambiguous as to who's annotation it is.
      • nikki
        how do you view the history then?
      • navap
        How do you view it currently?
      • ruaok
        but not which version of the annotation
      • navap
        Does each annotation edit create a new rowid?
      • nikki
        yes
      • navap
        Is there any way to calculate how many edits there have been to an annotation and display the edit count instead of rowid for each revision?
      • ruaok
        thats much less efficient than simply using rowid
      • navap
        What about /annotation for the current version and only show the rowid if a prior version is being shown?
      • ruaok
        +1
      • navap
        ruaok: If I comment on a review on review board, do you know if I'll start receiving follow up comments to that issue?
      • ruaok
        I think so. I thousands of CR mails. :)
      • navap
        Okay good. I made some comments on this and so I want to make sure I know what's going on with it. http://codereview.musicbrainz.org/r/534/
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      • warp: If there's only one use of a css declaration do you think it should still go in a stylesheet?
      • I have no problem moving that declaration to a stylesheet and updating the patch, but I'm going to need some git hand holding to figure things out for me to do that :p
      • warp
        navap: usually, yes. but that's just _my_ opinion though, I don't know if there is any kind css coding style musicbrainz adheres to.
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      • navap
        warp: I included a fix for this issue in my latest review, I hope you didn't work on it. http://jira.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-329
      • warp
        no, feel free
      • so far I plan to attack these tickets today: MBS-424, MBS-202, MBS-136
      • navap
        Ah the tagger one :)
      • I was thinking about that, isn't "Tagger" leftover from when that was the application we used?
      • Do you think we should rename the icon or the column to Picard?
      • warp
        do other taggers use it? is it generic enough for other taggers to use if they wanted to?
      • navap
        Generic enough == the function it provides, or the name?
      • warp
        the function it provides.
      • ofcourse, if other taggers use that functionality... we should probably have different icons for each tagger. even just to show support for tagger developers.
      • navap
        Do we have the room to add more icons?
      • warp
        navap: I mean, look at whichever tagger does the initial request and store than in the session or unclude it in the tport= argument.
      • navap: and just serve only the icon specific to that tagger.
      • navap
        Ah okay.
      • warp
        but I expect picard is the only using it, really.
      • navap
        And even if it isn't, I'm sure Picard will remain the most dominent user of it for quite some time.
      • warp
        so, yes, I think we should picard icons. and if other taggers use the functionality, add icons for them too :)
      • +have
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      • VectorX
        hi
      • can someone tell me the link to the dependencies for installing the server on linux
      • i kind of lost the link
      • navap
        http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Server_Setup should have all the info/links you need.
      • VectorX
        yeah i was on that page but cant seem to find it
      • navap
      • VectorX
        no there was a awesome wiki page with it
      • ill try getting the vmware version
      • maybe i can save some trouble with that
      • :)
      • navap
      • VectorX
        nope, ill try to look for it a bit more, i think i got it off of a irc log
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      • warp
        ijabz_: I think index creation failed here.
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      • ijabz
        warp, hi what do you mean
      • warp
      • ijabz
        oh dear, I've never seen this but a couple of weeks ago murdos did some work on refactoring the annotation index build, I wonder if he has broken something
      • warp
        ijabz: I didn't see it using any cpu after this exception, so ctrl-c'ed it.
      • ijabz
        I'll raise an issue with him, this wont have affected the other indexes so shouldnt effect you (unless you are working on annotations)
      • warp
        ijabz: well, it didn't finish building indexes, but yes.. I should just start it again with the --index option then.
      • ijabz
        no
      • all the others have worked so I woundnt bother
      • warp
        well, cdstub and freedb are still missing.
      • ijabz: should i create a jira ticket in SEARCH-, or will you?
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      • ijabz
        im doing it now
      • warp
        ok, thanks :)
      • ijabz
        ok, just built those two indexes then
      • warp nods.
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      • brianfreud
        aCiD2: lol, I'd figured I'd just leave it as vague and unnamed as possible, as the particular case didn't matter, but the principal (going forward) does :D
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      • warp
      • nikki: I'm only missing gurmukhi, for the rest I have found ttf fonts in debian.
      • nikki
        those are all the scripts we currently have in mb :)
      • warp
        :D
      • ijabz
        warp , btw murdos has already ixed the annotation bug
      • warp
        ijabz: awesome
      • nikki
        grr... I hate it when I can't think of a word that fits
      • brianfreud
        Ok, I've drafted up a proposal header template, an up-to-date spelling out of the proposal process, and all the rest. Before I populate the proposals table, any thoughts? http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposals http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Template:proposal and example: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/AudioBook_Style
      • nikki
        if using the wiki didn't work before, what will make it work now?
      • (by that I'm simply asking how you've improved the idea)
      • I liked warp's idea before of people putting them under their user pages, that also makes it clear who's responsible without having to say anything, and it also makes it easy for two people to have two different proposals for the same thing (like with the vietnamese thing)
      • brianfreud
        I can add the user pages bit, sure.
      • As for using wiki, well, imho it didn't work because noone was maintaining it, the docs never got updated (there's at least 3 old versions of the process/etc on the wiki), we had all sorts of headers, and there was no "clearinghouse" of active proposals.
      • Wiki's not perfect - I'd still rather use jira for the table - but it is the best of the status quo we've tried
      • nikki
        I'll let warp argue with you about whether to use trac or not :P it'd be really nice if you two would pick one though instead of giving off mixed messages
      • brianfreud
        I thought warp hated using trac as the clearing house?
      • nikki
        exactly
      • brianfreud
        Hence the table at bottom.
      • nikki
        but you still included a "trac ticket for your proposal" bit, which to me would seem like we're expected to enter tickets too
      • brianfreud
        Well, trac's benefit is being able to somewhat link together related proposals over time. The table's only tracking current proposals.
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      • warp
        nikki: regarding MBS-136 (sorting), is this any better? http://frob.nl/~warp/sort/collate.sorted.txt
      • that's the default I get for strcoll(), but I think that just sorts on the byte or codepoint values.
      • (from what I read, postgresql uses the default system strxfrm/strcoll sorting)
      • ruaok
        oh bugger.
      • that then totally complicates EVERYTHING.
      • because our main postgres instance runs on Solaris.
      • warp
        yes, because it's locale dependant... and we want to sort correctly for _all_ locales in one go :)
      • ruaok: haha, fuck!
      • ruaok
        lol