haven't been using public transport recently anyway. cycling every day, which is awesome
2010-04-14 10426, 2010
ruaok
+1
2010-04-14 10437, 2010
ruaok
that's the first thing I did when I got to delft. rented a bike.
2010-04-14 10457, 2010
ruaok
now I fell much like a nederlander. I can terrorize the streets and cut off cars with impunity.
2010-04-14 10403, 2010
alastairp
I went home last weekend and stole dad's bike
2010-04-14 10405, 2010
ruaok
(more impunity that usual, that is)
2010-04-14 10408, 2010
warp
:)
2010-04-14 10416, 2010
ruaok
hi warp!
2010-04-14 10417, 2010
alastairp
put it on the plane and put it together and rode home from the wirport
2010-04-14 10419, 2010
warp
hello
2010-04-14 10425, 2010
alastairp
airport
2010-04-14 10429, 2010
ruaok
nice.
2010-04-14 10442, 2010
ruaok
warp: I'm really looking forward to my ride to rotterdam
2010-04-14 10447, 2010
warp
ruaok: good :)
2010-04-14 10415, 2010
warp
ruaok: what time do you think you'll arrive here?
2010-04-14 10436, 2010
ruaok
good question.
2010-04-14 10458, 2010
ruaok
there is a small possibility of me heading to Bologna tomorrow evening.
2010-04-14 10425, 2010
ruaok
that would be an 18:35 flight out of schiphol. so I need to work the schedule backwards if that happens. I'd let you know as soon as I know.
2010-04-14 10431, 2010
ruaok
if not, I can come whenever.
2010-04-14 10438, 2010
ruaok
I'll set aside an hour for riding.
2010-04-14 10448, 2010
warp nods.
2010-04-14 10457, 2010
ruaok
say noon if I don't travel. a bit earlier if I do?
2010-04-14 10459, 2010
ruaok
I should know soon.
2010-04-14 10402, 2010
warp
sure
2010-04-14 10406, 2010
warp
I'm up early as you know :)
2010-04-14 10410, 2010
ruaok nods
2010-04-14 10428, 2010
ruaok
I'll be in rotterdam today... changing trains. I'm headed to Utrect.
2010-04-14 10438, 2010
ruaok
+h
2010-04-14 10448, 2010
warp
ah, right
2010-04-14 10448, 2010
warp goes back to adding stuff to the webservice.
2010-04-14 10411, 2010
warp
ruaok: digest authentication sort of works. :)
2010-04-14 10425, 2010
ruaok
nice.
2010-04-14 10429, 2010
ruaok
what is sort of about it?
2010-04-14 10418, 2010
warp
it needs to store something (the nonce) in $c->cache, which makes mecached mandatory right now.
2010-04-14 10400, 2010
ruaok
mandatory if you want to submit something to the WS. we can live with that
2010-04-14 10409, 2010
warp
which is Good Enough. It can probably just use Cache::Memory for dev machines, but I need to poke aCiD2 about how to make that interact with DBDefs.
2010-04-14 10443, 2010
ruaok
yea, using Cache::Memory is a good idea.
2010-04-14 10435, 2010
djce
(as long as you have only one fcgi server process, right?) /me not familiar with dev environments these days, but just checking
2010-04-14 10408, 2010
ruaok
for what case?
2010-04-14 10425, 2010
ruaok
if you have no memcached running, NO WS auth request will ever work.
2010-04-14 10437, 2010
ruaok
since the nonce gets stored in memached, and fails.
2010-04-14 10444, 2010
warp
Cache::Memory is fine for development, but I think it could fail in production with multiple processes/threads/whatnots.
2010-04-14 10459, 2010
djce
just saying, Cache::Memory is a cache within the perl interpreter's memory, right? So if you have >1 perl interpreter at the back end, you get false cache misses.
2010-04-14 10410, 2010
djce
indeed.
2010-04-14 10429, 2010
ruaok
yes, right.
2010-04-14 10431, 2010
djce
And I don't know whether or not it's normal to have >1 back end process in devel.
2010-04-14 10432, 2010
warp
djce: yes, exactly. but that's quite ok for a developer running script/musicbrainz_server.pl -r -d
2010-04-14 10440, 2010
djce
ah. ok.
2010-04-14 10458, 2010
djce
told you I was out of touch with modern mb_server devel :-)
2010-04-14 10401, 2010
warp
(I'm using Cache::Memory now, and it hasn't failed here yet)
2010-04-14 10415, 2010
ruaok
and for production we have to ensure that the churn on memcached is low enough that it survives the call duration
2010-04-14 10452, 2010
djce
yup. separate memcached instance if needs be.
2010-04-14 10456, 2010
warp
djce: anyway, so the tech stuff is all solved. I just need to know from aCiD2 which old cache stuff can be pruned from DBDefs and how to get the choice between Cache::Memory and memcached in there.
2010-04-14 10449, 2010
warp
ruaok: ah, right.
2010-04-14 10422, 2010
ruaok
warp: thats not something we need to worry about yet tho.
