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      • ruaok
        luks, maybe you can help.
      • 2010-03-22 08108, 2010

      • ruaok
        for a chained controller, the return value of the root controller gets stashed into the stash.
      • 2010-03-22 08112, 2010

      • ruaok
        right?
      • 2010-03-22 08120, 2010

      • luks
        ruaok: what does 'keeping them around' mean? :)
      • 2010-03-22 08121, 2010

      • ruaok
        if so, what key name is it stashed in?
      • 2010-03-22 08131, 2010

      • luks
        uh, I don't know
      • 2010-03-22 08135, 2010

      • ruaok
        luks: cluttering up the propsal space with dead stuff.
      • 2010-03-22 08138, 2010

      • luks
        but I don't believe so
      • 2010-03-22 08155, 2010

      • luks
        ruaok: that's the point, there is no proposal space
      • 2010-03-22 08122, 2010

      • luks
        regarding catalyst, I think only stuff you stash manually gets stashes
      • 2010-03-22 08126, 2010

      • navap
        It means we reduce the clutter in the wiki by deleting lots of confusing and poorly written documentation pages.
      • 2010-03-22 08140, 2010

      • ruaok is unclear on some concept for sure
      • 2010-03-22 08142, 2010

      • navap
        luks: Thanks for the label/catalog clarifcation
      • 2010-03-22 08116, 2010

      • ruaok pedals for a burrito
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      • brianfreud
        ruaok: ding :)
      • 2010-03-22 08151, 2010

      • brianfreud
        It's just setting them as official dead+abandoned, closing any relevant tix requesting them, etc. Anyone can of course propose it newly in future, but this 'officially' closes out any 'stalled and wtf-is-the-status' proposals
      • 2010-03-22 08116, 2010

      • warp
        ruaok: I don't know the answer to your chained _load question.
      • 2010-03-22 08146, 2010

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      • ffimon
        does anyone know what is happening with musicbrainz-sharp
      • 2010-03-22 08105, 2010

      • alastairp
        hi
      • 2010-03-22 08120, 2010

      • alastairp
        i think i'm going to be late to work
      • 2010-03-22 08149, 2010

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      • alastairp
        may not make it to the meeting until ~20 past
      • 2010-03-22 08140, 2010

      • warp
        alastairp: hurrryryyy!
      • 2010-03-22 08100, 2010

      • ruaok
        alastairp: we can do it next week...
      • 2010-03-22 08143, 2010

      • ruaok
      • 2010-03-22 08152, 2010

      • ruaok
        on the load function, where does the return value go?
      • 2010-03-22 08140, 2010

      • alastairp
        ruaok: don't want to have to put it off /again/ ;(
      • 2010-03-22 08149, 2010

      • luks
      • 2010-03-22 08153, 2010

      • ruaok
        ok.
      • 2010-03-22 08107, 2010

      • luks
        _load is not a Catalyst action, it's a regular function
      • 2010-03-22 08141, 2010

      • luks
        for Tag it goes to $c->stash->{tag}
      • 2010-03-22 08148, 2010

      • ruaok
        luks: thanks! thats the info I was looking for.
      • 2010-03-22 08152, 2010

      • aCiD2
        luks beat me too it :)
      • 2010-03-22 08154, 2010

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      • philip6137
        Hi everyone :)
      • 2010-03-22 08120, 2010

      • aCiD2
        hey philip6137 :)
      • 2010-03-22 08127, 2010

      • aCiD2
        Leftmost: you around too?
      • 2010-03-22 08141, 2010

      • aCiD2 prods dzann//zan and jensl too
      • 2010-03-22 08152, 2010

      • aCiD2
        I think that's all our gsoc potentials
      • 2010-03-22 08106, 2010

      • jensl
        jap gsoc applicant :)
      • 2010-03-22 08109, 2010

      • Leftmost
        Around enough.
      • 2010-03-22 08119, 2010

      • navap
        Wow 17 nicks in here, that's probably a record.
      • 2010-03-22 08102, 2010

      • warp
        aCiD2: I have trouble merging my changes into next, is that normal? (they're branched off master ofcourse).
      • 2010-03-22 08127, 2010

      • aCiD2
        warp: normalish, but it hasn't happened to me yet :)
      • 2010-03-22 08139, 2010

      • aCiD2
        i guess some of my potential work is conflicting with you
      • 2010-03-22 08103, 2010

      • warp
        so now I just do git format-patch master; git checkout next; git am 0*patch
      • 2010-03-22 08137, 2010

      • aCiD2
        huh?
      • 2010-03-22 08142, 2010

      • warp
        aCiD2: well, I get conflicts on stuff which I'm not changing.
      • 2010-03-22 08158, 2010

      • aCiD2
        which means that something that got into master is conflicting, which is weirder
      • 2010-03-22 08104, 2010

      • aCiD2
        but why the format-patch stuff?
      • 2010-03-22 08119, 2010

      • warp
        aCiD2: "it works", no other reason.
      • 2010-03-22 08142, 2010

      • aCiD2
        it just seems a long way round rather than just "merge" *fix conflicts* then "commit"
      • 2010-03-22 08108, 2010

      • warp
        aCiD2: but with git format-patch + git am I don't have to do anything, the conflicts don't show up.
      • 2010-03-22 08120, 2010

      • dzann
        i'm here
      • 2010-03-22 08143, 2010

      • warp
        nothing in my change is conflicting, it's the history which merge brings in with it. or something. I don't fully understand it :)
      • 2010-03-22 08111, 2010

      • ruaok
        <BANG>
      • 2010-03-22 08112, 2010

      • MBChatLogger
        MBChatLogger has changed the topic to: http://musicbrainz.org/#devel
      • 2010-03-22 08113, 2010

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      • aCiD2
        warp: right, that's what I mean about something in master
      • 2010-03-22 08120, 2010

      • ruaok
        Welcome everyone!
      • 2010-03-22 08120, 2010

      • aCiD2
        i'll have a look soon :)
      • 2010-03-22 08122, 2010

      • ruaok
        ruaok has changed the topic to: agenda: gsoc, review, schedule, agile, [what else?]
      • 2010-03-22 08128, 2010

      • ruaok
        hi murdos!
      • 2010-03-22 08136, 2010

      • ruaok
        right-o.
      • 2010-03-22 08149, 2010

      • murdos
        hi ruaok! hi all!
      • 2010-03-22 08155, 2010

      • navap
        Hey
      • 2010-03-22 08103, 2010

      • ruaok
        I'm seeing an awful lot of propsective gsoc'cers in here, so lets put that on the agenda and start there.
      • 2010-03-22 08103, 2010

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      • ruaok
        dear gsoc potential students: do you have any questions?
      • 2010-03-22 08120, 2010

      • ruaok
        comments?
      • 2010-03-22 08121, 2010

      • warp
        I have two quick requests which I'll just add to the topic.
      • 2010-03-22 08130, 2010

      • ruaok nods at warp
      • 2010-03-22 08137, 2010

      • warp
        warp has changed the topic to: agenda: gsoc, review, schedule, agile, makefile, pg sorting [what else?]
      • 2010-03-22 08139, 2010

      • dzan
        i have no questions :) easy right?
      • 2010-03-22 08151, 2010

      • ruaok
        good. :-)
      • 2010-03-22 08102, 2010

      • warp
        oh, release editor / artist credits..
      • 2010-03-22 08103, 2010

      • Leftmost
        I think for the time being, expectations are pretty clear.
      • 2010-03-22 08104, 2010

      • ruaok
        philip6137, Leftmost jensl?
      • 2010-03-22 08109, 2010

      • jensl
        yes?
      • 2010-03-22 08110, 2010

      • warp
        warp has changed the topic to: agenda: gsoc, review, schedule, agile, release editor, makefile, pg sorting [what else?]
      • 2010-03-22 08114, 2010

      • warp
        muaha
      • 2010-03-22 08122, 2010

      • ruaok
        do you have any qeustions regarding gsoc?
      • 2010-03-22 08132, 2010

      • dzan
        quick one maybe:
      • 2010-03-22 08133, 2010

      • philip6137
        I dont really have question :)
      • 2010-03-22 08133, 2010

      • ruaok
        the while team is assembled ready to answer questions. :)
      • 2010-03-22 08133, 2010

      • jensl
        yes one
      • 2010-03-22 08145, 2010

      • ruaok
        dzan first, jensl next.
      • 2010-03-22 08149, 2010

      • dzan
        2 people on mailinglist for android, me for android and philip6137 too, 4 total? or even more?
      • 2010-03-22 08150, 2010

      • jensl
        do your prefer to have a first official proposal quite early on google
      • 2010-03-22 08102, 2010

      • jensl
        so that you might get the chance to ask questions again
      • 2010-03-22 08110, 2010

      • jdamcd
        I am here too, sent to mailing list about the Android proposal
      • 2010-03-22 08111, 2010

      • jensl
        or just final one...
      • 2010-03-22 08125, 2010

      • ruaok
        dzan: I would expect more. its seems to be a popular suggestion.
      • 2010-03-22 08140, 2010

      • ruaok
        jensl: yes, the earlier the better.
      • 2010-03-22 08141, 2010

      • warp
        jensl: early is always better IMO.
      • 2010-03-22 08150, 2010

      • ruaok
        that way we can give you feedback.
      • 2010-03-22 08153, 2010

      • jensl
        ok
      • 2010-03-22 08113, 2010

      • philip6137
        do you have proposals for the other ideas ?
      • 2010-03-22 08115, 2010

      • jensl
        actually i discuss almost everything on the mailing list
      • 2010-03-22 08125, 2010

      • ruaok
        in general, those people who work with the community and adapt their proposals based on community feedback have better chances at being accepted.
      • 2010-03-22 08137, 2010

      • ruaok
        philip6137: see our ideas page.
      • 2010-03-22 08147, 2010

      • ruaok
        we're also very much open to you bringing your own idea in.
      • 2010-03-22 08155, 2010

      • ruaok
        and its ok to submit more than one proposal.
      • 2010-03-22 08110, 2010

      • jensl
        i gonna concentrate on the android proposal and won't submit any others
      • 2010-03-22 08115, 2010

      • ruaok
        last call for gsco questions.
      • 2010-03-22 08132, 2010

      • navap wonders if students can collaborate on a proposal
      • 2010-03-22 08142, 2010

      • jensl
        i could also do iphone but from your replies i result that you prefer android
      • 2010-03-22 08143, 2010

      • aCiD2
        navap: yes but no
      • 2010-03-22 08144, 2010

      • ruaok
        navap: yes.
      • 2010-03-22 08146, 2010

      • aCiD2
        you'd do it like me and luks did
      • 2010-03-22 08158, 2010

      • aCiD2
        separate proposals, but heavily orientated around working together
      • 2010-03-22 08117, 2010

      • ruaok
        jensl: one think I am considering... if we don't get a third student interested in another topic, I would consider having one for android and one for iphone.
      • 2010-03-22 08118, 2010

      • navap
        So focus on two separate specific proposals, but work together to achieve both?
      • 2010-03-22 08122, 2010

      • ruaok
        but I am guessing that is unlikely.
      • 2010-03-22 08136, 2010

      • ruaok
        navap: we can pretty much do anything we want.
      • 2010-03-22 08144, 2010

      • ruaok
        include tell the students that we like what to put in their proposals.
      • 2010-03-22 08100, 2010

      • ruaok
        "gee, this guys says exactly what I am looking for. s/he's perfect!"
      • 2010-03-22 08117, 2010

      • jensl
        ruaok: ok, will mention that i can do the stuff also on the iphone
      • 2010-03-22 08120, 2010

      • ruaok
        and that is perfectly legit. google makes very few rules about what we can't do.
      • 2010-03-22 08127, 2010

      • ruaok
        jensl: ok.
      • 2010-03-22 08132, 2010

      • ruaok
        ok, onward. review from last week.
      • 2010-03-22 08135, 2010

      • ruaok
        warp: go!
      • 2010-03-22 08135, 2010

      • dzan
        you've got 3 slots?
      • 2010-03-22 08139, 2010

      • dzan
        oh sorry :)
      • 2010-03-22 08142, 2010

      • ruaok
        dzan: we've requested 3.
      • 2010-03-22 08147, 2010

      • ruaok
        np
      • 2010-03-22 08156, 2010

      • warp
        as you may have noticed, I spent almost the entire week on the release editor.
      • 2010-03-22 08108, 2010

      • aCiD2
        yay
      • 2010-03-22 08113, 2010

      • Leftmost
        Pour NGS?
      • 2010-03-22 08116, 2010

      • ruaok
        ruaok has changed the topic to: genda: review, schedule, agile, release editor, makefile, pg sorting [what else?]
      • 2010-03-22 08122, 2010

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      • warp
        I tried to fit it in better with the existing js code, which made it much more modular... and better testable.
      • 2010-03-22 08125, 2010

      • ruaok
        warp: go something for us to look at?
      • 2010-03-22 08152, 2010

      • warp
        ruaok: it's not merged into next, but available from git.musicbrainz.org. I submitted it to codereview in three parts.
      • 2010-03-22 08105, 2010

      • warp
        so yes, please all have a look.
      • 2010-03-22 08118, 2010

      • ruaok
        ok, I should be able to get to some reviews later today.
      • 2010-03-22 08126, 2010

      • ruaok
        I can't wait to see in action. :)
      • 2010-03-22 08138, 2010

      • aCiD2
        on the review note.. I've got some that are almost a month old - could those please get looked at?:)
      • 2010-03-22 08159, 2010

      • ruaok
        aCiD2: gimme a list of what needs the most attention.
      • 2010-03-22 08108, 2010

      • warp
        aCiD2: I looked at everything in code review, but often I just don't have enough of a clue what's going on yet to say something sensible about it.
      • 2010-03-22 08117, 2010

      • aCiD2
        ruaok: none need attention, but it'd be nice just to clear it up
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      • aCiD2
        they aren't blocking me
      • 2010-03-22 08130, 2010

      • ruaok
        ok, I'll go by age then.
      • 2010-03-22 08144, 2010

      • ruaok
        anything else warp?
      • 2010-03-22 08103, 2010

      • warp
        ruaok: nothing which I didn't stick in the agenda seperately :)
      • 2010-03-22 08109, 2010

      • ruaok
        :-)