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      • Mutiny
        yeah how's it going with that?

        • 2003-02-21 05208, 2003

      • Mutiny
        i'm interested in using it on a pretty big archive.

        • 2003-02-21 05241, 2003

      • icepick
        I'm fixing some threading issues in the mb wrappers...

        • 2003-02-21 05250, 2003

      • icepick
        then they user will not have to wait at all

        • 2003-02-21 05256, 2003

      • icepick
        very nice

        • 2003-02-21 05210, 2003

      • icepick
        it's text only and it works

        • 2003-02-21 05233, 2003

      • icepick
        because of a server problem it doesn't handle MACs the way I want it too yet

        • 2003-02-21 05216, 2003

      • Mutiny
        i don't suppose the tagger supports renaming files, or gathering id3 information from filenames where the id3 info is wrong or the trmid isn't in the database, does it?

        • 2003-02-21 05252, 2003

      • icepick
        does renaming

        • 2003-02-21 05208, 2003

      • icepick
        the filename parsing code is not working quite yet

        • 2003-02-21 05223, 2003

      • icepick
        waiting until I hit a batch of file that need it

        • 2003-02-21 05237, 2003

      • phidauex
        phidauex (~phidauex@dsl093-192-027.stl1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #musicbrainz

        • 2003-02-21 05240, 2003

      • icepick
        so I have a good test base

        • 2003-02-21 05202, 2003

      • phidauex
        hey hey

        • 2003-02-21 05241, 2003

      • Mutiny
        hehe

        • 2003-02-21 05246, 2003

      • Mutiny
        i've got a big batch of files that need it!

        • 2003-02-21 05251, 2003

      • Mutiny
        you want to test on those?

        • 2003-02-21 05201, 2003

      • icepick
        what I'm thinking is... do a FileInfo query, if it doesn't have anything, then parse the filename,

        • 2003-02-21 05231, 2003

      • icepick
        Mutiny: are they on a sshable box? do you mind giving me a an account? can you get all the depends working first?

        • 2003-02-21 05248, 2003

      • Mutiny
        what depends do you need?

        • 2003-02-21 05259, 2003

      • Mutiny
        i have a 'catalog' of the files that might be more useful.

        • 2003-02-21 05224, 2003

      • Mutiny
        filename + path, trmid, size, id3 artist+album+title, encoding parameters, etc.

        • 2003-02-21 05245, 2003

      • icepick
        get tagger.py working on your machine and we'll talk

        • 2003-02-21 05248, 2003

      • icepick
        shower time

        • 2003-02-21 05210, 2003

      • Mutiny
        ok

        • 2003-02-21 05259, 2003

      • icepick
        and let me know if you have any questions

        • 2003-02-21 05205, 2003

      • icepick
        Mutiny: it would take a lot of work for me to tweak my code to deal with your catalog

        • 2003-02-21 05225, 2003

      • icepick
        maybe not a lot but I have no desire to do it... sorry

        • 2003-02-21 05251, 2003

      • Mutiny
        okay then, nevermind

        • 2003-02-21 05200, 2003

      • Mutiny
        i can do it

        • 2003-02-21 05242, 2003

      • icepick
        Mutiny: you code python?

        • 2003-02-21 05252, 2003

      • Mutiny
        mmhmm

        • 2003-02-21 05218, 2003

      • Mutiny
        sure do

        • 2003-02-21 05209, 2003

      • Mutiny
        I'm glad somebody already wrote this tagger code for me. I've got alot of mp3s that need massaging.

        • 2003-02-21 05226, 2003

      • phidauex
        massaging indeed :)

        • 2003-02-21 05206, 2003

      • phidauex
        i've already 'massaged' a few thousand mp3s on my PC.. its slow work, especially since many of them aren't in the musicbrainz database yet (or rather, they are now, but weren't before)

        • 2003-02-21 05219, 2003

      • icepick
        4.3 GB of sorted stuff....

        • 2003-02-21 05223, 2003

      • icepick
        16.9 to go

        • 2003-02-21 05254, 2003

      • icepick
        then there is the semi-sorted

        • 2003-02-21 05219, 2003

      • phidauex
        i've got 32Gb total, i'm not sure exactly how far through it I am. A lot of what I have was already well organized into albums and well tagged, and those are going fast, but I just got several gigs of great hiphop and stuff from a friend of mine, and while the music is awesome, his complete inability to organize or properly tag mp3s has made it really slow to go through

        • 2003-02-21 05238, 2003

      • Mutiny
        I've got 637gb

        • 2003-02-21 05253, 2003

      • phidauex
        you serious?

        • 2003-02-21 05256, 2003

      • phidauex
        thats lunacy

        • 2003-02-21 05257, 2003

      • phidauex
        :)

        • 2003-02-21 05236, 2003

      • phidauex
        I've tried to keep my collection trimmed to stuff I really like. i don't like having a lot of fluff. though i can understand the desire to collect for the sake of it. :)

        • 2003-02-21 05255, 2003

      • icepick
        Mutiny: that's fucked up man... you work and a music store and rip every cd?

        • 2003-02-21 05224, 2003

      • Mutiny
        no

        • 2003-02-21 05231, 2003

      • phidauex
        that would be over 1000 cds uncompressed! :)

        • 2003-02-21 05203, 2003

      • Mutiny
        only constrained by disk, within a few weeks of upgrading to 1.4tb that'll be filled too

        • 2003-02-21 05219, 2003

      • phidauex
        if you submit all those you'll singlehandedly double the number of entries in the mb database ;)

        • 2003-02-21 05236, 2003

      • phidauex
        where do you get them? just download? or rip lots?

        • 2003-02-21 05245, 2003

      • Mutiny
        people uploaded them

        • 2003-02-21 05253, 2003

      • phidauex
        ahh

        • 2003-02-21 05226, 2003

      • Mutiny
        yeah i offered to submit them, but i don't know how interested they are *shrug*

        • 2003-02-21 05226, 2003

      • icepick
        Mutiny: ok... you are my main user then

        • 2003-02-21 05235, 2003

      • phidauex
        does tunetagger have support for submitting the TRM ids like the windows client?

        • 2003-02-21 05214, 2003

      • phidauex
        heh, with over half a terabyte of mp3s, already cataloged, it might be worth writing a script to parse the data in the catalog :)

        • 2003-02-21 05242, 2003

      • icepick
        phidauex: yes... it does it in batchs of 15 so you don't loose too much if it crashes

        • 2003-02-21 05206, 2003

      • phidauex
        excellent

        • 2003-02-21 05225, 2003

      • Mutiny
        i already 'extracted' all the meta data from the archive

        • 2003-02-21 05238, 2003

      • Mutiny
        it took ~4 days to generate all the trmids

        • 2003-02-21 05252, 2003

      • phidauex
        hot damn

        • 2003-02-21 05207, 2003

      • icepick
        tunetagger also downloads cover art

        • 2003-02-21 05219, 2003

      • phidauex
        i noticed that when i was perusing the source :)

        • 2003-02-21 05224, 2003

      • phidauex
        very cool

        • 2003-02-21 05233, 2003

      • icepick
        Mutiny: you shouldn't have too much trouble using my code..

        • 2003-02-21 05250, 2003

      • phidauex
        Eventually it would be nice for musicbrainz to support all the ID3v2 frames, including the goodies like cover art

        • 2003-02-21 05250, 2003

      • icepick
        you want to make use of the the musicfile.MusicFile object

        • 2003-02-21 05209, 2003

      • icepick
        phidauex: TT is doing just that...

        • 2003-02-21 05243, 2003

      • phidauex
        :)

        • 2003-02-21 05257, 2003

      • phidauex
        client support, then server support

        • 2003-02-21 05202, 2003

      • Mutiny
        icepick: i don't expect i will. i'm probably going to give it a run through later today.

        • 2003-02-21 05210, 2003

      • Mutiny
        after i set up traffic shaping for codecon

        • 2003-02-21 05237, 2003

      • icepick
        I just want the date of the release in MB

        • 2003-02-21 05242, 2003

      • icepick
        after that I don't care

        • 2003-02-21 05227, 2003

      • phidauex
        that would be nice to have

        • 2003-02-21 05209, 2003

      • phidauex
        composer and interpreted/remixed by would also be nice, and could help with some of the difficulties with classical music

        • 2003-02-21 05220, 2003

      • icepick
        unsure how that would fix in my file naming scheme tho

        • 2003-02-21 05219, 2003

      • phidauex
        filenaming is a hassle.. i'm not sure of the best way to do it really :) so far i use /artist/album/artist - tracknumber - songname.mp3|ogg

        • 2003-02-21 05247, 2003

      • phidauex
        but its easy to get ridiculously long filenames

        • 2003-02-21 05255, 2003

      • icepick
        how do you pick songs to play?

        • 2003-02-21 05221, 2003

      • phidauex
        I usually make an empty playlist, and then start drag'n'dropping files or folders that i want to listen too. organizing in folders the way I do makes it pretty easy for me to just drag in whole albums, which is what i usually do. then i put it on shuffle and go nuts

        • 2003-02-21 05244, 2003

      • phidauex
        i also have things organized by genre, but i don't pay attention to the genre tag, i organize them myself

        • 2003-02-21 05246, 2003

      • icepick
        so why does it matter if you filenames are long

        • 2003-02-21 05255, 2003

      • phidauex
        burning to cd ;)

        • 2003-02-21 05220, 2003

      • phidauex
        over a certain number of characters, i don't remember how many, you stop conforming to the cd filename standards

        • 2003-02-21 05232, 2003

      • icepick
        65

        • 2003-02-21 05233, 2003

      • icepick
        64

        • 2003-02-21 05238, 2003

      • phidauex
        special characters ending up in filenames can also be an issue

        • 2003-02-21 05211, 2003

      • phidauex
        i'm not sure if some software already does this, but it would be nice to have support for removing special chars and truncating the length of the filename when doing file renaming

        • 2003-02-21 05240, 2003

      • phidauex
        so the cdburner doesn't cough with 200 errors about overly-long filenames :)

        • 2003-02-21 05234, 2003

      • icepick
        you could very easyly add it and send me a patch

        • 2003-02-21 05249, 2003

      • phidauex
        :)

        • 2003-02-21 05201, 2003

      • phidauex
        i need to see about getting tunetagger running first

        • 2003-02-21 05242, 2003

      • icepick
        where are you hung up at the moment?

        • 2003-02-21 05259, 2003

      • phidauex
        oh, i haven't even given it a solid try yet :)

        • 2003-02-21 05226, 2003

      • phidauex
        what do you mean by 'musicbrainz + python wrapper' dependency?

        • 2003-02-21 05258, 2003

      • icepick
        what os are you on (i think I should know this already )

        • 2003-02-21 05214, 2003

      • phidauex
        os x

        • 2003-02-21 05223, 2003

      • phidauex
        so it may not work :)

        • 2003-02-21 05202, 2003

      • icepick
        ahh... yes... that is a problem

        • 2003-02-21 05209, 2003

      • icepick
        send robert $$$

        • 2003-02-21 05211, 2003

      • icepick
        :)

        • 2003-02-21 05225, 2003

      • phidauex
        so its still reliant on the mb_client libraries?

        • 2003-02-21 05235, 2003

      • phidauex
        i chatted robert up yesterday

        • 2003-02-21 05250, 2003

      • phidauex
        he said he'd let me know as soon as things are in a usable state

        • 2003-02-21 05258, 2003

      • yalaforge
        yalaforge (~matthias@krl9-d9bb4fae.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #musicbrainz

        • 2003-02-21 05211, 2003

      • yalaforge
        hi

        • 2003-02-21 05235, 2003

      • phidauex
        ahoy

        • 2003-02-21 05235, 2003

      • yalaforge
        Does anyone know if a pkg-config file has chances to be included in libmusicbrainz?

        • 2003-02-21 05233, 2003

      • icepick
        sure

        • 2003-02-21 05243, 2003

      • ekkis
        ekkis (~e@adsl-63-194-16-45.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) has joined #musicbrainz

        • 2003-02-21 05218, 2003

      • yalaforge
        Where should I submit it?

        • 2003-02-21 05253, 2003

      • icepick
        is the patch tracker shown on the sf.net page?

        • 2003-02-21 05225, 2003

      • yalaforge
        icepick: please wait a minute

        • 2003-02-21 05205, 2003

      • icepick
        otherwise just mail it to icepick@icepick.info and I'll add it

        • 2003-02-21 05209, 2003

      • yalaforge
        icepick: Seems it isn't there. I'll mail the file, thanks.

        • 2003-02-21 05233, 2003

      • yalaforge
        BTW: NetBSD now has a current musicbrainz package :-)

        • 2003-02-21 05238, 2003

      • yalaforge
        bye

        • 2003-02-21 05247, 2003

      • phidauex
        adios

        • 2003-02-21 05201, 2003

      • yalaforge has quit

        • 2003-02-21 05207, 2003

      • icepick
        what kind of a stupid moron messed up the sort name for dave matthews band

        • 2003-02-21 05214, 2003

      • phidauex
        lol

        • 2003-02-21 05227, 2003

      • phidauex
        there are some wierd things in there..

        • 2003-02-21 05258, 2003

      • phidauex
        i've been wrestling with getting dan the automator made into his own artist instead of being trapped as an alias of anandji & kalandji

        • 2003-02-21 05242, 2003

      • phidauex
        there is a lot of work to be done, but at least the dream of a clean database is possible, unlike the static freedb

        • 2003-02-21 05205, 2003

      • icepick
        apparently this is correct "matthews, dave band"

        • 2003-02-21 05215, 2003

      • icepick
        but possibly the most fucked up thing I've seen

        • 2003-02-21 05235, 2003

      • phidauex
        are you sure thats how it should look? :P

        • 2003-02-21 05231, 2003

      • phidauex
        i think the actual title of the band is "The Dave Matthews Band" which would make the sortname "Dave Matthews Band, The"

        • 2003-02-21 05255, 2003

      • phidauex
        the name doesn't refer to a person, it refers to a band, which happens to 'belong' to a person

        • 2003-02-21 05204, 2003

      • icepick
        I agree... let's change it

        • 2003-02-21 05215, 2003

      • phidauex
        right on

        • 2003-02-21 05229, 2003

      • xiidozen_
        xiidozen_ (trilluser@129.82.85.73) has joined #musicbrainz

        • 2003-02-21 05218, 2003

      • ekkis
        I've just d/ld trm-0.21 and tried to build it... the configure complains that I should have the MusicBrainz client >= 2.0.0 but the client on the web site is only 0.2.1... what to do?

        • 2003-02-21 05236, 2003

      • phidauex
        what OS?

        • 2003-02-21 05240, 2003

      • ekkis
        linux

        • 2003-02-21 05249, 2003

      • ekkis
        rh 7.2

        • 2003-02-21 05255, 2003

      • icepick
        ekkis: that's very odd... what url was the 0.2.1 written?

        • 2003-02-21 05213, 2003

      • phidauex
        it probably means you need the client library, which should be at 2.0

        • 2003-02-21 05244, 2003

      • phidauex
        i think you need the MAD libraries and the libmusicbrainz library to build trm

        • 2003-02-21 05255, 2003

      • icepick
        ekkis: that's exactly what you need

        • 2003-02-21 05225, 2003

      • ekkis
        I just installed mad

        • 2003-02-21 05237, 2003

      • phidauex
        http://www.musicbrainz.org/products/client/downlo…

        • 2003-02-21 05248, 2003

      • ekkis
        but the client library... I guess I'll just get the 0.2.1 version then?

        • 2003-02-21 05250, 2003

      • phidauex
        get libmusicbrainz 2.0.0 for linux

        • 2003-02-21 05232, 2003

      • ekkis
        found it

        • 2003-02-21 05240, 2003

      • phidauex
        yeah, that should be what you need

        • 2003-02-21 05243, 2003

      • ekkis
        it's on the ftp server, the web page is just old

        • 2003-02-21 05250, 2003

      • phidauex
        the documentation is a bit vague on that