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      • verus
        icepick: tunetagger is breaking for me for some reason =[

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      • verus
        self.mb.QueryWithArgs(MBQ_FileInfoLookup, args)

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      • verus
        NameError: global name 'MBQ_FileInfoLookup' is not defined

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      • ruaok
        djce: hey!

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      • ruaok
        slacking on the beerfest are we??

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      • djce
        'fraid so

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      • djce
        I declined to attend today. But I did do Thu and Fri.

        • 2003-10-04 27709, 2003

      • djce
        anyway, I think by now it's all over.

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      • ruaok
        how was it?

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      • ruaok
        Did you taste many new beers??

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      • ruaok
        So my posse for Amsterdam just got a bit bigger.

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      • ruaok
        We're now up to 10 people!

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      • djce
        I think I sampled about 12 out of 90+ available.

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      • djce
        But very nice they were too :-)

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      • ruaok
        How big was a sample??

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      • djce
        1/2 pint or a pint

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      • ruaok
        Here at the beer fest its only 1oz.

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      • ruaok
        Ahh. 12 pints sounds more reasonable. :-)

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      • djce
        oh no. Full pints at CAMRA. :-)

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      • ruaok
        I can't wait to sit down in a nice pub with you.

        • 2003-10-04 27722, 2003

      • ruaok
        And a have a few pints.

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      • djce
        That sounds most agreeable.

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      • verus
        http://u.mine.nu/images/temp/split.cd.jpg

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      • verus
        what do i do with that one!

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      • verus
        its like Avalon / White Wash

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      • ruaok
        boy, sounds quite angry.

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      • djce
        What is it? a pair of CDs, one artist per cd?

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      • verus
        no just one cd

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      • ruaok
        Panzerfaust -- nice name for a record label. :-)

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      • verus
        =]

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      • ruaok
        one cd??

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      • verus
        its like a split/cd with half of them being by avalon, other by white wash =[

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      • djce
        12 tracks?

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      • djce
        the cover art says 1-6, 1-6.

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      • verus
        yea 12 tracks

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      • ruaok
        I would vote for a VA album.

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      • ruaok
        Either that, or burn the CD. :-)

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      • verus
        ?

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      • verus
        what happens if i burn the cd

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      • verus
        i could burn on a cd-rw

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      • ruaok
        Actually I was about to suggest that as a possibility.

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      • ruaok
        oh oops.

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      • ruaok
        I was thinking combustion, not data writing. :-)

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      • verus
        haha

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      • verus
        http://u.mine.nu/images/temp/me.jpg

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      • ruaok
        I think a VA is best, but if you feel that a feat. would be better, that is your call.

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      • verus
        thats me

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      • verus
        hehe

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      • verus
        hm

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      • verus
        i just won't put it into musicbrainz yet

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      • verus
        see if someone else will do it with more balls

        • 2003-10-04 27701, 2003

      • ruaok
        balls??

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      • ruaok
        That would be my GF. Her last name is Balsz. :-)

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      • verus
        maybe skills

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      • ruaok
        She's got em too!

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      • verus
        haha

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      • ruaok
        No, seriously, just enter it as a VA.

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      • verus
        i know of a girl who's name is 'jenna' and her last name is thalls

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      • ruaok
        HAHAHAHAHA!

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      • ruaok
        Scary what people will do to their kids.

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      • verus
        yea parents dont care because its not THEIR name

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      • djce
        ruaok: I like the new header*.gif images

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      • ruaok
        Thanks. You're the first person to mention it.

        • 2003-10-04 27719, 2003

      • ruaok
        I think Erin will take a stab at making a better version.

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      • djce
        I'm not surprised, it's a nice but subtle change.

        • 2003-10-04 27730, 2003

      • ruaok
        The drop shadows on my version are all janky.

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      • djce
        I saw the CVS commits :-)

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      • ruaok
        :-)

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      • djce
        Did you see, and understand, my mail about voting changes?

        • 2003-10-04 27701, 2003

      • ruaok
        And it seems squished to the left a bit -- I'll have her nudge it more to the right to give it more space.

        • 2003-10-04 27729, 2003

      • ruaok
        I read it briefly, but haven't taken the time to respond yet. Sorry.

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      • ruaok reads

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      • djce
        np

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      • ruaok
        Oh I remember, I had problems loading the page last time I checked.

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      • djce
        It's up now.

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      • ruaok
        The page still hasn't loaded.

        • 2003-10-04 27711, 2003

      • ruaok
        In any case, two thoughts.

        • 2003-10-04 27733, 2003

      • ruaok
        First, the 'no vote' option staying on top.

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      • ruaok
        Could we somehow make them disappear for the time being and shuffle them to the end??

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      • djce
        (should be port 8080. Sorry, I didn't realise that port 80 only works on my loopback interface).

        • 2003-10-04 27709, 2003

      • ruaok
        np

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      • djce
        I did think of a "defer for /x/ days/hours" option

        • 2003-10-04 27719, 2003

      • ruaok
        I'm just considering the case where there are more than 1 page worth of 'no votes'.

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      • djce
        well, that's your cue to get your ass in gear and vote properly

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      • ruaok
        What if you want to stop the deferrement??

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      • ruaok
        djce: fair enough.

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      • djce
        The "no vote" option, as it currently stands, is simple to understand, even if it's not the most advanced feature ever.

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      • ruaok
        Second thought: The not being able to see the votes before you vote was mainly done to prevent 'me too' voters.

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      • djce
        yup

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      • ruaok
        That is still in effect with the change vote feature.

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      • djce
        Currently I've set it so that you only get to see votes once the mod has closed.

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      • djce
        or, it's your mod.

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      • ruaok
        People can change their mind and that is a matter of flexibility, not some conduit for laziness.

        • 2003-10-04 27723, 2003

      • ruaok
        Its more work to change your vote than to 'me too' vote, so I think your new feature is fine.

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      • djce
        I'm not expecting many people to vote more than once.

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      • ruaok
        You mean change their vote??

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      • djce
        yes

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      • ruaok
        agreed.

        • 2003-10-04 27714, 2003

      • ruaok
        In other words, I'm all for your suggestions.

        • 2003-10-04 27720, 2003

      • djce
        good :-)

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      • djce
        I think I've finally fixed a whole slew of bugs today.

        • 2003-10-04 27750, 2003

      • djce
        Missing triggers for albummeta, mainly.

        • 2003-10-04 27719, 2003

      • djce
        Which means there's quite a (relatively) complex set of database updates next time round.

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      • djce
        See ServerUpdateNotes.txt

        • 2003-10-04 27728, 2003

      • ruaok
        I saw all the commits. Seeing those messages makes me smile.

        • 2003-10-04 27740, 2003

      • ruaok
        yeay.

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      • djce
        I'm thinking that all names of things like [silence] [data track] [untitled] [non-album tracks] should be kept out of the search indexes. What do you think?

        • 2003-10-04 27739, 2003

      • ruaok
        Sure.

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      • ruaok
        But it would be nice to be able to query for them somehow.

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      • djce
        hmm. one to ponder.

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      • ruaok
        In your mail on text indexing:

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      • ruaok
        Code changes: minimal (except that

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      • ruaok
        > artist is renamed.

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      • ruaok
        WHy would that be any different than what we're currently doing??

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      • ruaok
        > And what about album artist VS track artist?