same to you, although for me it was over 22 hours ago now :)
2004-01-01 00145, 2004
djce
Ah! OK, only 11 hrs here.
2004-01-01 00100, 2004
djce
GMT+11.... Eastern Oz?
2004-01-01 00108, 2004
melange
Yep, Melbourne
2004-01-01 00123, 2004
melange
You're UK or thereabouts?
2004-01-01 00126, 2004
djce
You asked about the timezones, right?
2004-01-01 00128, 2004
djce
uk, yes
2004-01-01 00134, 2004
melange
yes, that was me
2004-01-01 00137, 2004
djce
I did do something about that - I didn't forget!
2004-01-01 00149, 2004
melange
:)
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djce
It was a bit "dirty" though, code-wise. It will get done, honest.
2004-01-01 00103, 2004
melange
I'm not terribly fussed, it's only a minor thing
2004-01-01 00142, 2004
melange
doesn't phase me, it was more of a "hey, that's not right, better tell someone" rather than a "everything is broken" thing :)
2004-01-01 00159, 2004
djce
sure. ok, duly noted :)
2004-01-01 00130, 2004
melange
I'm the same guy who put in the feature request for emailing on a "No" vote, btw
2004-01-01 00142, 2004
melange
I've been busy lately
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djce
Ah... I get so confused with all these different nicknames, real names etc.
2004-01-01 00117, 2004
djce
That's why I decided to drop my old nickname and just go with my initials.
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melange
yeah, that's probably not such a bad idea
2004-01-01 00143, 2004
djce
I have a very common firstname + lastname, but a very unusual set of initials.
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melange
I'm not even going to hazard a guess
2004-01-01 00130, 2004
melange
:)
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yalaforge
hi
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yalaforge
just saw the message on the website, thanks!
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melange
?
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djce
melange: the "happy new year" message on the web site was yalaforge's idea.
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melange
ahh, now I see :)
2004-01-01 00122, 2004
melange
djce: are you still here?
2004-01-01 00126, 2004
djce
yes
2004-01-01 00141, 2004
melange
can you explain the trm lookup count value?
2004-01-01 00146, 2004
djce
sure
2004-01-01 00105, 2004
djce
every time the tagger, or some other app, calls the lookup-info-by-TRM-id function
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djce
then the lookupcount for that TRM goes up by one
2004-01-01 00125, 2004
melange
ok
2004-01-01 00102, 2004
melange
so, if I find what looks to be a homebrew/bogus album, and the TRMs have only been hit, like, once, I can use that to back up my theory?
2004-01-01 00124, 2004
melange
and how can a trm have 0 lookups?
2004-01-01 00140, 2004
djce
sounds likely, yes. It could well mean that that album has only been tagged once or twice.
2004-01-01 00143, 2004
melange
(presuming the lookup count gets bumped when it's put into the database)
2004-01-01 00152, 2004
djce
When a TRM is first generated, it's count is zero.
2004-01-01 00157, 2004
melange
ok
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djce
So after the first round of tagging, it's still zero.
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djce
it only starts going up if you force an "analyze again" (?) on those files again
2004-01-01 00136, 2004
melange
right-o
2004-01-01 00151, 2004
melange
thanks, that helps a lot
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djce
np
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melange
wb
2004-01-01 00155, 2004
melange
Hey, would you prefer me to put things like the "timezone" thing, and the "release sort order" issues I raised on the mailing list into the sourceforge tracker instead?
2004-01-01 00139, 2004
djce
yes please
2004-01-01 00151, 2004
melange
ok, will do
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ruaok blinks
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ruaok
I should really be getting to bed -- the sun is coming up....
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ruaok
nite'all
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ruaok
and a happy new year to all!
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djce
g'nite ruaok
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StupidMop
Happy New Year everybody!!!
2004-01-01 00115, 2004
melange
hny StupidMop
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StupidMop
:-)
2004-01-01 00137, 2004
StupidMop
first day of the new year, and I see all these nifty new things on MusicBrainz: Release Date, a stay logged in checkbox, whoa! :-D
2004-01-01 00102, 2004
melange
I thought of those as a late Christmas present :)
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StupidMop
LOL! that works!
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StupidMop
on this album http://musicbrainz.org/album/cf176073-45f9-4110-a… it seems like "Album, offical" is a pending change, but if you view album mods, you will see there is no pending changes. Why is it highlighted?
right. but that is closed. so it shouldn't highlight "Album, offical" as a pending change
2004-01-01 00147, 2004
melange
yeah, I just noticed that
2004-01-01 00154, 2004
melange
looks like a bug to me
2004-01-01 00149, 2004
melange
you should post a bug report on sourceforge
2004-01-01 00152, 2004
StupidMop
okay. I'll right it up. Just wanted to make sure it was a real bug, and not me being a spaz
2004-01-01 00122, 2004
melange
I don't suppose someone has come up with a command line tool for linux to calculate TRMs?
2004-01-01 00145, 2004
melange
failing that, a pointer to perl modules would be nice
2004-01-01 00156, 2004
melange
s'ok, I found SvanZoest's page
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djce
wb yalaforge
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yalaforge
djce: hi!
2004-01-01 00123, 2004
melange
hey
2004-01-01 00128, 2004
melange
I'm in need of some advice
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yalaforge
what's up?
2004-01-01 00151, 2004
melange
I have an album that I'm 99.9% sure is a homebrew compilation
2004-01-01 00113, 2004
melange
I want to delete it, however there are quite a number or TRMs attached to it
2004-01-01 00151, 2004
yalaforge
what's the problem with it? I think it's no problem to have it in the database
2004-01-01 00110, 2004
melange
now, some years ago when Napster was still going, I downloaded all of the tracks on this album
2004-01-01 00139, 2004
melange
however, the tracks I got were bad quality, 128kbit, and were recorded *fast*, ie: a 4:28 song only taking 4:17, etc
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yalaforge
so the TRMs are useless as well
2004-01-01 00159, 2004
melange
the TRMs on the bad quality mp3s match this album
2004-01-01 00108, 2004
melange
yes
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yalaforge
hm, if you really want to delete it, you have my vote
2004-01-01 00131, 2004
melange
so do I just delete the album? at best, it's a bootleg, but I don't think it will be a mass-produced one, so it's pretty useless
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yalaforge
just paste the URL of the mod here
2004-01-01 00104, 2004
melange
and we have the official compilation in there as well
2004-01-01 00122, 2004
melange
I can attach the TRMs of the bad tracks I have to the official album, if that's desiareable
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melange
-a
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yalaforge
no, I wouldn't do that
2004-01-01 00111, 2004
melange
the issue there is that the "bad" TRMs get quite a lot of lookups :)
2004-01-01 00135, 2004
melange
meaning this same bad quality rip (which was probably recorded off LP) has been getting around
2004-01-01 00102, 2004
yalaforge
uh. but I'm afraid moving TRMs isn't supported via the web interface
2004-01-01 00138, 2004
melange
which, in itself, is quite an interesting fact. conceivably, if you wanted to track a song through the P2P network, you could fudge it slightly so it produces a unique TRM, and then watch the TRM count on musicbrainz
2004-01-01 00140, 2004
melange
heh
2004-01-01 00104, 2004
yalaforge
:-)
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melange
yeah, I know I can't move the TRMs, but as I mabe the mp3s, I can regenerate them and add them to the "correct" album
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melange
mabe = have
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yalaforge
ok
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melange
(don't ask me how I wrote that wrong)
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yalaforge
:-)
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melange
or, perhaps a better option ..
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melange
the tracks on the official compilation came from a series of EPs
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melange
(LP only)
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melange
I could create albums for the EPs and attach the TRMs to that instead?
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yalaforge
even better
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melange
not all the tracks on the EPs made it to the compilation
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melange
so this would be better
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melange
although there will never be a CDID for them
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melange
never released on CD
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yalaforge
sorry, I've got to leave in a minute. You can post the mod URLs here, however
2004-01-01 00156, 2004
melange
np
2004-01-01 00100, 2004
melange
thanks for the help
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yalaforge
the chatlogger records them, I'll vote on them later
