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orogor
gah , audioscrubbler needs to use musicbrainz badly
2005-04-02 09200, 2005
20:54 PM
orogor
like for them "bob marley and the wailers" is different than "bob marley & the wailers"
2005-04-02 09213, 2005
20:54 PM
orogor
kinda screw the results
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20:55 PM
Knio
they have a system to fix that.. sorta
2005-04-02 09237, 2005
20:56 PM
orogor
dont seems like
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orogor
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bramp
Thats old data orogor
2005-04-02 09259, 2005
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orogor
been there to have a graph , and buncha things seems screwed
2005-04-02 09204, 2005
20:57 PM
orogor
hoo
2005-04-02 09210, 2005
20:57 PM
orogor
where do i grab recentone so ?
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bramp
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orogor
hehe
2005-04-02 09227, 2005
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bramp
they have had a mod system in place to merge the misspelt artists... So it is getting fixed
2005-04-02 09207, 2005
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warp
and they do accept mbids, and intend to use it more later on, right?
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21:03 PM
bramp
I think so
2005-04-02 09223, 2005
21:03 PM
orogor
:s
2005-04-02 09234, 2005
21:03 PM
orogor
can t subscribe ti audioscrobbler
2005-04-02 09248, 2005
21:03 PM
orogor
their signup page is closed , and this since like 2 days
2005-04-02 09203, 2005
21:04 PM
orogor
last time i tried , months ago , it was closed too
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bramp
I'm sure they will open it again soon
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ruaok waves
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ruaok
dood. pope's dead.
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SenRepus
yea.
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bmaury
i've a newbie question for y'all
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22:10 PM
warp
bmaury: shoot.
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22:10 PM
warp
(not that i'm not a newbie.. but.. oh well ;)
2005-04-02 09257, 2005
22:11 PM
bmaury
i have a client MP3 player (very basic) that communicates with a server. when a user is playing a song, the id3 tag gets sent up to our server, where we try to match the id3 tag to our repository. i've recently imported musicbrainz, so i want to try and match the id3 tags to the MB data. of course, we have no TRM tags on the client side, so i'm looking for the most efficient way to match id3 tags to the MB data.
2005-04-02 09231, 2005
22:13 PM
bmaury
i'm looking at building a matching table that matches id3 tags to the track or albumjoin table. since we know what id3 tags our users have, this table will be much smaller than the 3MM rows in track
2005-04-02 09245, 2005
22:14 PM
warp
hm, sorry, i have no idea. but i think some of the people around here do development on the musicbrainz tagger, perhaps they can help.
2005-04-02 09204, 2005
22:15 PM
warp
but the overwhelming silence right now tells me they're all asleep ;)
2005-04-02 09218, 2005
22:15 PM
bmaury
kind of like audioscrobbler architecture, i guess...
2005-04-02 09225, 2005
22:15 PM
bmaury
i'm kind of sleepy too...
2005-04-02 09242, 2005
22:15 PM
HenkPoley
bmaury: they are working on feeding lucene with the MB data
2005-04-02 09257, 2005
22:15 PM
HenkPoley
It does loose matching etc.
2005-04-02 09228, 2005
22:16 PM
warp
whee, someone who knows more about it than me :)
2005-04-02 09237, 2005
22:16 PM
warp runs off to package something.
2005-04-02 09242, 2005
22:16 PM
HenkPoley
But lucene is an entire database engine
2005-04-02 09250, 2005
22:16 PM
HenkPoley pats warp
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22:16 PM
HenkPoley
that's where my knowledge ends
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22:17 PM
bmaury
this is what i'm doing too (loose matching)... who would i talk to about that?
2005-04-02 09210, 2005
22:17 PM
HenkPoley
And my sleep starts.. almost..
2005-04-02 09230, 2005
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HenkPoley
2005-04-02 09241, 2005
22:17 PM
HenkPoley
and find those who post ppl back here
2005-04-02 09246, 2005
22:17 PM
HenkPoley
Meh..
2005-04-02 09258, 2005
22:17 PM
bmaury
thx henkpoley
2005-04-02 09259, 2005
22:17 PM
HenkPoley
and find those ppl who post there back here
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22:23 PM
DJKC
isn't that what the webservices are for?
2005-04-02 09201, 2005
22:24 PM
DJKC
not exactly loose matching
2005-04-02 09205, 2005
22:24 PM
DJKC
but for looking up MB data
2005-04-02 09248, 2005
22:29 PM
bmaury
thing is we map MB data to ours, so it's easier to have a local copy, instead of pinging MB each time...
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22:38 PM
bmaury
lucene is awesome.
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22:42 PM
ruaok
bmaury: stil there?
2005-04-02 09233, 2005
22:42 PM
bmaury
yup
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22:42 PM
ruaok
I'm responsible for the lucene hacking.
2005-04-02 09200, 2005
22:43 PM
ruaok
unfortunately, I don't really have much to share just yet.
2005-04-02 09243, 2005
22:43 PM
ruaok
I haven't worked on it much, since the requirement of having a 650mb index files presents some deployment challenges.
2005-04-02 09249, 2005
22:43 PM
bmaury
it's a pretty cool approach. but i don't really want to store the lucene index on each client. :(
2005-04-02 09252, 2005
22:43 PM
bmaury
exactly...
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22:44 PM
ruaok
lemme look at what code I've got kicking around.
2005-04-02 09228, 2005
22:44 PM
bmaury
any other ideas for matching id3 tags to MB data? am I using the right tables anyway?
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ruaok
sounds like it....
2005-04-02 09221, 2005
22:46 PM
ruaok
other ideas? not really. acoustic fingerprints suck ass.
2005-04-02 09224, 2005
22:46 PM
ruaok
lucene is the way to go.
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orogor
how many index files are there ?
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ruaok
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22:46 PM
ruaok
orogor: for what, lucene?
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bmaury
yup. just saw it now...
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ruaok
that script was written in python with pylucene.
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ruaok
which requires gjc
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ruaok
its a bit of a pain to set up.
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bmaury
our client & server are both java, so i could just use that...
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22:47 PM
ruaok
my script is in python...
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bmaury
python is great, but i'd like to see some dang semicolons.
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22:48 PM
ruaok doesn't miss them
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Knio
semicolons are optional
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22:49 PM
orogor has a look at lucene
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22:49 PM
ruaok
bmaury: if you want my script, I'd be glad to give it to you.
2005-04-02 09201, 2005
22:50 PM
ruaok
but its still quite crude -- its a proof of concept, really.
2005-04-02 09207, 2005
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bmaury
i'd love to check it out.
2005-04-02 09221, 2005
22:50 PM
bmaury
the other thing is we store our user's id3 tags in postgres on our server, so we can match on the server... just a question of the best approach
2005-04-02 09225, 2005
22:50 PM
ruaok pastes a license on it
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22:50 PM
bmaury
totally...
2005-04-02 09236, 2005
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ruaok
GPL ok?
2005-04-02 09245, 2005
22:50 PM
bmaury
yup
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22:50 PM
ruaok
k
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MBChatLogger
Ewww! Gross!
2005-04-02 09255, 2005
22:50 PM
bmaury
gracenote came to my school on friday...
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ruaok grins
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ruaok
and?
2005-04-02 09208, 2005
22:51 PM
ruaok
did you give them a hard time?
2005-04-02 09216, 2005
22:51 PM
bmaury
i almost wanted to go and thank them for making freedb and MB happen
2005-04-02 09220, 2005
22:51 PM
bmaury
i skipped it...
2005-04-02 09228, 2005
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ruaok
LOL
2005-04-02 09230, 2005
22:51 PM
bmaury
recruiting
2005-04-02 09200, 2005
22:54 PM
bmaury
is it fair to assume that i can match the artist, album and track name of an ID3 tag to MB tables using artist.name, album.name and albumjoin?
2005-04-02 09248, 2005
22:59 PM
ruaok
bmaury: search.py is on the way.
2005-04-02 09257, 2005
22:59 PM
ruaok
take a look at it and see what you think.
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ruaok
the install reqs are listed on top of the file.
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bmaury
awesome, thanks...
2005-04-02 09232, 2005
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ruaok
artist.name, album.name and track.name via albumjoin, yes.
2005-04-02 09242, 2005
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ruaok
now I need to find the script that builds the lucene index.
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bmaury
you are awesome.
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cikkolata yawns
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ruaok
ok, that one is a java script.
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ruaok
so, you've got lots of package installs to do.
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ruaok
lemme know if you get stuck
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bmaury
thanks... i'll check this out.
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SenRepus
anyone willing to explain how to auto identify for me?
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cikkolata
I have no idea because I don't use the same irc client as you
2005-04-02 09224, 2005
23:23 PM
SenRepus
-_- thanks anyway
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23:23 PM
cikkolata
*I* don't have auto ident, and haven't for years :P
2005-04-02 09205, 2005
23:24 PM
cikkolata
best I can do is "click things randomly and hope"
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23:30 PM
SenRepus
lol
2005-04-02 09226, 2005
23:30 PM
SenRepus
that works?
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23:31 PM
cikkolata
might do!
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23:31 PM
SenRepus
i misunderstood.
2005-04-02 09256, 2005
23:31 PM
SenRepus
thats what ive been doing for a week or so -_-
2005-04-02 09209, 2005
23:32 PM
cikkolata
gah. using four servers where my password is my password on two of them and the default "mb" on the other two is *really* confusing
2005-04-02 09221, 2005
23:32 PM
cikkolata
(and no, I'm not going to set my password to mb)
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SenRepus
is making people take a style quiz before they can mod a horrible and mean idea?
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DJKC
SenRepus: alt-o->connect->options->perform->enable
2005-04-02 09223, 2005
23:38 PM
DJKC
and in the commands section add something like /msg nickserv identify <your password>
2005-04-02 09245, 2005
23:38 PM
DJKC
may want to set it to only do that when connecting to this network if you're more than one and use different nicks/passwords on some of the others
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SenRepus
thanks
