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      • ruaok
        I kid you not.
      • 2005-04-11 10101, 2005

      • somniloquy
        c_C
      • 2005-04-11 10106, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i missed them i guess
      • 2005-04-11 10107, 2005

      • ruaok
        look under 'modern percussion instruments'
      • 2005-04-11 10111, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i wasnt expressly looking though
      • 2005-04-11 10130, 2005

      • jellyfish
        lol, wonder if anyone has used that yet
      • 2005-04-11 10137, 2005

      • mo
        that's what I mean.. the most used instruments soudl be first in a little 'commnly used instruments' list duplicated
      • 2005-04-11 10139, 2005

      • cikkolata
        I *thought* they were there...
      • 2005-04-11 10145, 2005

      • ruaok
        Geek. A Tori Amos submission. Who could that be?
      • 2005-04-11 10152, 2005

      • yalaforge
        :-)
      • 2005-04-11 10146, 2005

      • yalaforge
        ok, manually adding a VA album worked
      • 2005-04-11 10106, 2005

      • yalaforge
        someone please test a freedb import.
      • 2005-04-11 10149, 2005

      • ruaok
        adding duplicate artists still works
      • 2005-04-11 10120, 2005

      • mo
        hang on
      • 2005-04-11 10138, 2005

      • yalaforge
      • 2005-04-11 10111, 2005

      • yalaforge
        that reminds me, we still have the debugging output for the artist type :-(
      • 2005-04-11 10129, 2005

      • ruaok
        I know.
      • 2005-04-11 10137, 2005

      • ruaok
        er, what?
      • 2005-04-11 10146, 2005

      • cikkolata
        the type: person thing?
      • 2005-04-11 10151, 2005

      • yalaforge
        yes
      • 2005-04-11 10156, 2005

      • ruaok
        got link?
      • 2005-04-11 10104, 2005

      • mo
      • 2005-04-11 10107, 2005

      • yalaforge
      • 2005-04-11 10138, 2005

      • mo
        testing identical name VA artist change
      • 2005-04-11 10147, 2005

      • ruaok
        what's the problem?
      • 2005-04-11 10155, 2005

      • ruaok
        other than the guy being an asshole?
      • 2005-04-11 10101, 2005

      • ruaok hates that aritst
      • 2005-04-11 10113, 2005

      • yalaforge
        heh, I think he's a true artist :-)
      • 2005-04-11 10125, 2005

      • yalaforge
        the problem is that 'Type: person' is butt ugly
      • 2005-04-11 10134, 2005

      • ruaok
        so is the artist, but never mind. :-)
      • 2005-04-11 10147, 2005

      • yalaforge
        it was meant as debugging output until we have proper icons
      • 2005-04-11 10155, 2005

      • yalaforge
        ruaok: hey! :-)
      • 2005-04-11 10157, 2005

      • ruaok
        and given that we don't have proper icons yes...
      • 2005-04-11 10108, 2005

      • ruaok
        yet
      • 2005-04-11 10117, 2005

      • ruaok
        shall I focus on getting the VA fix to zim first?
      • 2005-04-11 10126, 2005

      • mo
        hrff...
      • 2005-04-11 10136, 2005

      • yalaforge
        wait a minute, I'm still testing
      • 2005-04-11 10138, 2005

      • mo
        changeing VA artist doesnt work again
      • 2005-04-11 10150, 2005

      • mo
        if the names are identical
      • 2005-04-11 10147, 2005

      • yalaforge
        mo: some more detail, please
      • 2005-04-11 10101, 2005

      • mo
        hang on
      • 2005-04-11 10111, 2005

      • cikkolata
        same problem as before?
      • 2005-04-11 10113, 2005

      • mo
        oh it's fixed itself :p
      • 2005-04-11 10129, 2005

      • ruaok
        mo: works for me on test
      • 2005-04-11 10136, 2005

      • mo
        yes
      • 2005-04-11 10151, 2005

      • mo
        it was my subruotines that borked for a secx
      • 2005-04-11 10153, 2005

      • mo
        sec*
      • 2005-04-11 10110, 2005

      • mo
        hmm..
      • 2005-04-11 10128, 2005

      • mo
        I know you have said no other things than person & group.. but
      • 2005-04-11 10109, 2005

      • yalaforge
      • 2005-04-11 10127, 2005

      • jellyfish
        hm, was just fooling around on the test server for a bit: http://test.musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=25…
      • 2005-04-11 10127, 2005

      • yalaforge
        picked the wrong tori amos, but she shouldn't have been there twice anyway
      • 2005-04-11 10131, 2005

      • mo
        what if.. you could set the identity as such: monserrat Cabaree: soprano, Sir Neville Mariner: conductor, Beetoven: composer
      • 2005-04-11 10155, 2005

      • mo
        and then.. then any AR link you initiate with this would *default* to rthe apropriot setting..
      • 2005-04-11 10117, 2005

      • Muti
        because people don't always have the same roles
      • 2005-04-11 10120, 2005

      • yalaforge
        ruaok: I think it works, found no bugs
      • 2005-04-11 10121, 2005

      • mo
        could always change it to whatever, but
      • 2005-04-11 10134, 2005

      • Muti
        I think person/group is fine
      • 2005-04-11 10134, 2005

      • yalaforge
        mo: you're a composer when you compose things
      • 2005-04-11 10137, 2005

      • ruaok
        ok, off it goes.
      • 2005-04-11 10103, 2005

      • mo
        yalaforge: yes? I know, that's what I said right?
      • 2005-04-11 10109, 2005

      • mo
        its what I meant anyway
      • 2005-04-11 10139, 2005

      • yalaforge
        yeah, but you can have just *one* type per artist
      • 2005-04-11 10154, 2005

      • yalaforge
        so if someone is a composer he can't be a conductor at the same time
      • 2005-04-11 10102, 2005

      • mo
        ofcourse! you wouldnt set artist type for *everyone*
      • 2005-04-11 10110, 2005

      • jellyfish
        or we'd have even more duplicate artists
      • 2005-04-11 10115, 2005

      • mo
        just for those whose *profession* it is..
      • 2005-04-11 10137, 2005

      • ruaok
        ok, VA bug fix is now live.
      • 2005-04-11 10147, 2005

      • ruaok
        please test it there for sanity sakes.
      • 2005-04-11 10148, 2005

      • jellyfish
        but a conductor could still compose, or produce, or something
      • 2005-04-11 10149, 2005

      • yalaforge
        mo: that won't happen, honestly
      • 2005-04-11 10153, 2005

      • mo
        popular music would be just ignored in this respect or just gone with 'person' group'
      • 2005-04-11 10157, 2005

      • mo
        I know..
      • 2005-04-11 10110, 2005

      • mo
        nut I can dream ;)
      • 2005-04-11 10117, 2005

      • yalaforge
        from the data modeling view, it just doesn't fit
      • 2005-04-11 10134, 2005

      • yalaforge
        I could imagine a type 'company' though. that would make sense
      • 2005-04-11 10135, 2005

      • mo
        I think I know what you mean..
      • 2005-04-11 10140, 2005

      • mo
        yes
      • 2005-04-11 10103, 2005

      • SenRepus
        person or group is just to tell if its either one person or > one person right?
      • 2005-04-11 10109, 2005

      • yalaforge
        I have no idea how to test it on zim
      • 2005-04-11 10111, 2005

      • cikkolata
        that's what I thought
      • 2005-04-11 10127, 2005

      • yalaforge
        I mean, I can't add albums randomly :-)
      • 2005-04-11 10136, 2005

      • yalaforge
        SenRepus: right
      • 2005-04-11 10137, 2005

      • jellyfish
        to come back to RHCP having kids: can such relationships not simply be made impossibe?
      • 2005-04-11 10103, 2005

      • mo
        well what is parenting thesedays?
      • 2005-04-11 10118, 2005

      • mo
        I coudl easily argue that Whitesnake is David Coverdales baby ;)
      • 2005-04-11 10149, 2005

      • yalaforge
        jellyfish: technically, we could prohibit that, yes
      • 2005-04-11 10106, 2005

      • jellyfish
        i guess it's not high priority
      • 2005-04-11 10115, 2005

      • yalaforge
        but then you'd have to wait for setting some kinds of relationships in case the artist has the wrong type
      • 2005-04-11 10137, 2005

      • mo
        afaic there is no 'xxx' is the creator of yyy idea'
      • 2005-04-11 10104, 2005

      • mo
        ifr: hedwig & angry inch = John Cameron Mitchell
      • 2005-04-11 10109, 2005

      • jellyfish
        hm, isee. existing relationships might also have to be deleted when the type changes
      • 2005-04-11 10111, 2005

      • jellyfish
        messy
      • 2005-04-11 10120, 2005

      • mo
        messy
      • 2005-04-11 10131, 2005

      • jellyfish
        common sense will take care of it i suppose
      • 2005-04-11 10136, 2005

      • yalaforge
        ruaok: did you activate VA submissions again?
      • 2005-04-11 10144, 2005

      • yalaforge
        jellyfish: yup
      • 2005-04-11 10111, 2005

      • yalaforge
        it's good when the things make sense that are less work
      • 2005-04-11 10119, 2005

      • SenRepus
        sigh. idiots.
      • 2005-04-11 10129, 2005

      • mo
        ???
      • 2005-04-11 10133, 2005

      • SenRepus
        "der i dont like spaces lets put in underscores"
      • 2005-04-11 10142, 2005

      • mo
        huuh?
      • 2005-04-11 10151, 2005

      • SenRepus
      • 2005-04-11 10136, 2005

      • yalaforge
      • 2005-04-11 10157, 2005

      • yalaforge is away: for a minute
      • 2005-04-11 10153, 2005

      • SenRepus
        modbot is running
      • 2005-04-11 10132, 2005

      • mo
        arg, could it be maid so that I don't get emails when the modbot puts a note on mods I only *vote* on?
      • 2005-04-11 10102, 2005

      • Muti
        mo: I have a feeling small feature requests aren't even going to be considered for a bit..
      • 2005-04-11 10135, 2005

      • SenRepus
        heh
      • 2005-04-11 10136, 2005

      • SenRepus
        yea
      • 2005-04-11 10145, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i think maybe ruaok and everyone are busy enough ATM
      • 2005-04-11 10147, 2005

      • mo
        sush both of you
      • 2005-04-11 10152, 2005

      • mo
        I was just sayin ;)
      • 2005-04-11 10159, 2005

      • SenRepus
        ive got all kinds of ideas floating in my head for AR that im just going to keep to myself for now
      • 2005-04-11 10114, 2005

      • mo
        just a random comment mon :)
      • 2005-04-11 10125, 2005

      • SenRepus
        ok so *cough*
      • 2005-04-11 10157, 2005

      • SenRepus
        do i send an email to MusicBrainz-users [at lists.musicbrainz.org] with the title of a topic to talk on the mailing lisT?
      • 2005-04-11 10128, 2005

      • mo
        yes.. I think so? I always just reply to the mail
      • 2005-04-11 10133, 2005

      • ruaok
        SenRepus: first sign up to the list
      • 2005-04-11 10140, 2005

      • ruaok
      • 2005-04-11 10141, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i am
      • 2005-04-11 10119, 2005

      • ruaok
        then yes
      • 2005-04-11 10159, 2005

      • mo
      • 2005-04-11 10123, 2005

      • ruaok hangs his head in shame
      • 2005-04-11 10124, 2005

      • SenRepus
        wait is it MusicBrainz-users [at lists.musicbrainz.org] or MusicBrainz-users [at musicbrainz.org]
      • 2005-04-11 10134, 2005

      • ruaok
        same diff
      • 2005-04-11 10141, 2005

      • SenRepus
        ok
      • 2005-04-11 10121, 2005

      • mo
        I'm a bout to kill my neigbours. .they're doing soem weird scratching thing thats driving me nuts
      • 2005-04-11 10123, 2005

      • djce joined the channel
      • 2005-04-11 10123, 2005

      • mo
      • 2005-04-11 10153, 2005

      • yalaforge is back (gone 00:13:56)
      • 2005-04-11 10105, 2005

      • yalaforge
        thanks for your votes, lady and gentlemen :-)
      • 2005-04-11 10116, 2005

      • cikkolata smiles
      • 2005-04-11 10147, 2005

      • Muti
        AR is viral, I'll start adding relationships for a band I like, then I'll move on to all their members, then all their members other bands, etc, etc.
      • 2005-04-11 10108, 2005

      • yalaforge
        I didn't add a single relationship yet
      • 2005-04-11 10114, 2005

      • yalaforge
        only birth dates and artist types
      • 2005-04-11 10118, 2005

      • mo
        awwww
      • 2005-04-11 10122, 2005

      • yalaforge
        but got stopped by the VA bug
      • 2005-04-11 10124, 2005

      • SenRepus
        let me know if you guys got my reply to the mb list
      • 2005-04-11 10141, 2005

      • SenRepus
        the "member of vs cooperative something something"
      • 2005-04-11 10154, 2005

      • mo
        have almost 20 digest I havent read on that
      • 2005-04-11 10119, 2005

      • djce has 1327 unread
      • 2005-04-11 10129, 2005

      • mo
        @_@
      • 2005-04-11 10131, 2005

      • SenRepus
        O_O
      • 2005-04-11 10132, 2005

      • mo
        emails?
      • 2005-04-11 10133, 2005

      • yalaforge
        hey djce!
      • 2005-04-11 10139, 2005

      • djce
        hi
      • 2005-04-11 10106, 2005

      • Muti
        SenRepus: it went through
      • 2005-04-11 10112, 2005

      • yalaforge
        djce: I struggled with my mb_server for hours to get it working :-/
      • 2005-04-11 10127, 2005

      • djce
        upgraded to AR you mean?