#musicbrainz

that song is remixed by 'Filterheadz'

but, http://www.tursa.franken.de/pics/roll_wantmore1...

I'd go for Filterheadz

thinking of AR..

btw, this cover does say "Filterheadz": http://stat.discogs.com/R/301393-1111764646.jpg

Schrollum: disc IDs (CDIndexIds) are created by libmusicbrainz

Schrollum: that with 'Filterhead' is promo release

the library gives you a URL to the website and lets you enter it

lets you enter what?

the cdindexId that libmusicbrainz created

ah

via the website you associate it with an album

so how does the website get the song length?

it's coded in the URL

Schrollum: http://mm.musicbrainz.org/bare/cdlookup.html?id...

ah, I see

cikkolata: got anything small with tags in id3v2.4 utf8 you can send so I can test something?

oh oops...

cikkolata: ?

I was looking for one and got distracted

ah

cikkolata: that file I sent you yesterday qualifies, no?

oh!

morning ruaok

time-of-day!

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meepmeep_ is now known as meepmeep

ping

pong

hi

hmm?

with hong kong?

something ruaok and i are talking about

yllona: I forwarded the chatlog comments to Derek.

hello ruoak and cikkolata. how are things?

I'm tired and confused, you?

He was wondering -- was your CD Baby experience in some way weed related?

good here.

ruoak: cool, he can email me if he need calrification

I'm finally getting on top of my email. :-)

yllona: got email?

mo_out is now known as mo

hi mo!

hi

ruaok: did you read my message?

ruaok: no weed (thankfully) but I do work with a lot of unsigned musicians, so end of doing a lot of "pro bono" tech support as the musicians attempt to market their music.

this thing has sound, doesn't it?

cikkolata: yep

is that why I'm confused?

i do have one friend on Cdbaby who's interested in the weed implementation though. we'll work on that when he gets back from the UK.

may i ask what 'weed' is?

I was wondering to

weedshare is a heavily DRM'd P2P network (windows media) that rewards it's users for sharing files.

sounds nasty...

;)

The weed guy is a total stoner hippy too. Heh.

mo: which message?

I was thinking that it seemed like a bad name.

I typed it in irc when you wher sleeping

i think it's overly complex. a musician has to submit media field to a specialiized service to be encoded with the weed DRM, and only then can the files be placed on the network.

mo: you want a 2.4 file?

yllona: i guess you couldnt let users do the packaging themselves. drm *is* complex :/

ruaok: ah, you are back. they told me that I should talk to you if I wanted a pointer or two to find the unicode mess/problem in picard. I was looking trough the code the other day, but couldn't really figure out if the problem was in tunepimp or in picard. I would gladly help you with it if you gave me a few directions.

weed does seem to be very popular in the Christian music space

tru_: LOL

who did?

tru_: I was working on that LAST NIGHT.

haha.

Its mainly a libtp issue.

ruaok: basically I said that if you wanted to test the 2.4 thing on a windows system with a different set of iso(or what you call it. ��� and ���etc is all good in the mbtagger to me) you can send me a thing liek you did cikkolata

And one that may very well be fixed now.

mo: pmsg me your email again.

I can give him a link...

I didn't eamil you :)

cikkolata: ok, that's great -- thanks.

oh, uou meab my adress

ruaok: Yeah I figured that. Because picard was using utf8 everywhere. but it seems like when you write the tag to the file it was written as utf8 even if the tag was version 2.3

tru_: I'd still love for you to help with Picard...

tru_: yes, that's the case.

g0llum: yep, i agree, but there must be some sort desktop tools that could be used. The thought of shipping of unreleased music to some "service" kind of makes me nervous. BTW, the encoding/DRM is a for fee service

from what I was looking at earlier, almost nothing on windows supports v2.4 Some stuff would take utf-16 with bom in v2.4, a lot would choke on that, and nothing did utf8 in 2.4 100% correct

ruaok: sure. I'd have a look at the code when I am not sooo sooo tierd. Just came home from musicfestival in germany. 24hours on the bus and four days of alcohol and dancing ;)

tru_: wow.

DJKC: it should write 2.3 tags with 2.4 as option IMHO

where do you live?

I just returned from Germany myself. :-)

since 2.3 is the most supported subset of id3v2

ruaok: sweden.

DJKC: thanks for that feedback.

yllona: no good :]

DJKC: what did? just fb2k?

I'm really getting the idea that I need to keep 2.3 support.

ruaok: I *told* you windows users would be wanting utf-16 :P

tru_: I'd prefer options for 2.3 or 2.4 and suboptions for iso8859, utf16 with bom, utf8, etc

DJKC: well...

cikkolata: utf-16 in 2.4 worked in foobar and itunes

DJKC: agreed.

as much as I hate having to add more options like that, we need it.

id3v2 specifies what unicode that should be used.

does it need to be 2.3 for wmp?

tru_: it lets you pick between those

2.3 = ucs16

g0llum: what's no good, the idea of a desktop tool fro DRM, or the for fee service

DJKC: yes, fallback on iso8859

I can check that. wait a sec

http://www.id3.org/id3v2.4.0-structure.txt I was reading it earlier

2.3 has iso-8859-1, utf-16 and utf-16-be

2.3 and wmp = apples != oranges

oh wait.