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      • DJKC
        ah. this interface is annoyingly non-intuitive. I should probably poke more when awake
      • 2005-07-02 18348, 2005

      • nikki_
        are there other non-intuitive things?
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      • DJKC
        matching a whole album at once to files wasn't intuitive
      • 2005-07-02 18341, 2005

      • nikki_
        oh?
      • 2005-07-02 18319, 2005

      • DJKC
        well, you can't select a group
      • 2005-07-02 18325, 2005

      • DJKC
        just the whole cluster of unmatched files
      • 2005-07-02 18338, 2005

      • DJKC
        so if you wanted to work on multiple file sets at once I don't see how you could
      • 2005-07-02 18358, 2005

      • nikki_
        hmm
      • 2005-07-02 18308, 2005

      • DJKC
        having to do albums one by one is a bit annoying and non-intuitive compared to how I usually tag stuff in batches
      • 2005-07-02 18321, 2005

      • nikki_
        isn't not being able to select more than one file one of the things-to-do?
      • 2005-07-02 18313, 2005

      • DJKC
        http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/wiki.pl?PicardTagger I don't see it in the list there from a quick glance
      • 2005-07-02 18300, 2005

      • nikki_
        "Multiple select in the album view does not work"?
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      • Knio1 has quit
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      • DJKC
        hmm... won't even say what I misinterpreted that as -_-;
      • 2005-07-02 18346, 2005

      • nikki_
        aww, why not?
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      • DJKC
        seems to have worked fine on BoA's latest album to tag it
      • 2005-07-02 18302, 2005

      • DJKC
        although I think the info in MB is wrong ^^;
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      • Knio joined the channel
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      • nikki_
        fix it then!
      • 2005-07-02 18317, 2005

      • DJKC
        teach me Korean
      • 2005-07-02 18332, 2005

      • DJKC
        I'm not certain but I think it has several with translations in the titles
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      • DJKC
        that aren't officially part of the title
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      • nikki_
        ah#
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      • DJKC
        either that or 6 titles are bilingual KR/EN with the same title in both halves
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      • DJKC
        while the rest are all just EN with on just KR
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      • DJKC
        and smtown's pages for her suck
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      • DJKC
        last I looked they hadn't even updated since the album's release
      • 2005-07-02 18349, 2005

      • DJKC
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      • DJKC
        MB matches that track list
      • 2005-07-02 18317, 2005

      • DJKC
        2, 4, 6, 8, 11, and 12 look bilingual same title to me
      • 2005-07-02 18342, 2005

      • DJKC
        http://boa.ilikepop.com/ and My Name is still the most recent album her homepage lists, even though it's a year old and new album has been out for a week or so -_-;
      • 2005-07-02 18343, 2005

      • DJKC
        http://info.hmv.co.jp/p/t/1495/930.html possibly that way on purpose though, since the JP version is the same but with the Korean parts translated into Japanese instead
      • 2005-07-02 18357, 2005

      • DJKC
        back to Picard - I don't see any way to remove files from the unmatched list other than closing and reopening?
      • 2005-07-02 18332, 2005

      • nikki_
        click the delete thingyt?
      • 2005-07-02 18350, 2005

      • DJKC
        ...
      • 2005-07-02 18355, 2005

      • DJKC
        add that to the unintuitive list
      • 2005-07-02 18356, 2005

      • Shepard has quit
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      • DJKC
        del does nothing and no right click either
      • 2005-07-02 18306, 2005

      • DJKC
        I'
      • 2005-07-02 18311, 2005

      • nikki_ looks confused
      • 2005-07-02 18316, 2005

      • nikki_
        the delete button or the delete key?
      • 2005-07-02 18320, 2005

      • DJKC
        most progams I use the icons are the same as intuitive short cut keys so I rarely/never look at them.
      • 2005-07-02 18322, 2005

      • DJKC
        del key
      • 2005-07-02 18344, 2005

      • DJKC
        I'd expect del to remove something or have a right click menu to it
      • 2005-07-02 18359, 2005

      • nikki_ notes that keyboard shortcuts are also on the list...
      • 2005-07-02 18300, 2005

      • DJKC
        I think this is the first time I've had a button just for something like that
      • 2005-07-02 18325, 2005

      • DJKC
        it didn't occur that there would need to be a button for something that basic
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      • Knio has quit
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      • DJKC
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      • DJKC
        that clear enough?
      • 2005-07-02 18311, 2005

      • ruaok pokes his head in
      • 2005-07-02 18318, 2005

      • ruaok
        I saw that bug earlier.
      • 2005-07-02 18322, 2005

      • ruaok
        didn't care to fix it.
      • 2005-07-02 18340, 2005

      • ruaok
        DJKC: can you start a wiki page with picard annoyances?
      • 2005-07-02 18305, 2005

      • ruaok
        and please, if possible make suggestions on how to fix the issue.
      • 2005-07-02 18315, 2005

      • Knio
        Knio is now known as Knio-sleep
      • 2005-07-02 18325, 2005

      • DJKC
        ah
      • 2005-07-02 18337, 2005

      • DJKC
        it also ignores everything if the folder is named in unicode
      • 2005-07-02 18341, 2005

      • DJKC
        which is even more annoying
      • 2005-07-02 18356, 2005

      • ruaok
        I'm sorry that this is so annoying to you.
      • 2005-07-02 18304, 2005

      • DJKC
        heh
      • 2005-07-02 18317, 2005

      • ruaok
        ah fuck it.
      • 2005-07-02 18320, 2005

      • ruaok goes to sleep
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      • DJKC
        night
      • 2005-07-02 18314, 2005

      • DJKC
        well, it is an annoyance. If you tell people that to use your tagging program they need to drag each track individually into the right part of the window
      • 2005-07-02 18334, 2005

      • ruaok has quit
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      • DJKC
        what's the album clusters button supposed to do? I can't find anyway to get it not greyed out...
      • 2005-07-02 18334, 2005

      • nikki_
        when you have unmatched files, it tries to group them into albums
      • 2005-07-02 18321, 2005

      • DJKC
        can't get it to be available to click at all...
      • 2005-07-02 18327, 2005

      • nikki_
        hmm
      • 2005-07-02 18339, 2005

      • DJKC
        not sure if it's a bug or I'm not using it right...
      • 2005-07-02 18304, 2005

      • DJKC
        what do you normally have to do for it to be available? just add files so they're in the unmatched list? or?
      • 2005-07-02 18302, 2005

      • nikki_
        yes
      • 2005-07-02 18337, 2005

      • luks has quit
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      • DJKC
        hmmm... reopening got it to be ungreyed out
      • 2005-07-02 18311, 2005

      • DJKC
        but pressing did nothing
      • 2005-07-02 18313, 2005

      • nikki_
        weird
      • 2005-07-02 18315, 2005

      • DJKC
        ah
      • 2005-07-02 18318, 2005

      • DJKC
        more unicode bugs
      • 2005-07-02 18323, 2005

      • nikki_
        fun
      • 2005-07-02 18332, 2005

      • DJKC
        it's always available now that I reopened, but it only clusters stuff named in English
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      • Knio joined the channel
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      • DJKC
        and of course none of the first 4 albums I tried it with were named in English -_-;
      • 2005-07-02 18304, 2005

      • nikki_
        the clustering wasn't exactly spectacular to start with :P
      • 2005-07-02 18316, 2005

      • Knio-sleep has quit
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      • DJKC
        well, these are files already all tagged with the same album tag
      • 2005-07-02 18356, 2005

      • DJKC
        intersting. It works fine as long as the album title starts in English. Doesn't care if the rest isn't
      • 2005-07-02 18342, 2005

      • DJKC
        ahhhh musicbranz.org doesn't work
      • 2005-07-02 18351, 2005

      • DJKC
        apparently no one cares about music + fiber in a leet way
      • 2005-07-02 18353, 2005

      • nikki_ giggles
      • 2005-07-02 18334, 2005

      • Knio has quit
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      • Knio1 joined the channel
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      • DJKC
        annoying. can't reproduce the greyed out cluster button at all.
      • 2005-07-02 18319, 2005

      • DJKC
        and kind of wonder how many of these Unicode bugs I'm submitting he was aware of but just didn't have a chance to fix before pushing it out the door
      • 2005-07-02 18336, 2005

      • DJKC
        neat. the lookup button screws up Chinese in a neater way than it screws up hiragana
      • 2005-07-02 18327, 2005

      • Knio joined the channel
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      • Knio1 has quit
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      • DJKC
        nikki_: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/wiki.pl?PicardTaggerA… feel like adding in any for other OSes?
      • 2005-07-02 18346, 2005

      • nikki_
        my keyboard works!!
      • 2005-07-02 18351, 2005

      • nikki_ bounces happily
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      • DJKC
        and out of curiousity is the directory listing as slow under others as well?
      • 2005-07-02 18340, 2005

      • nikki_
        hmm
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      • Knio has quit
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      • Shepard joined the channel
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      • warp_ joined the channel
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      • warp_ has quit
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      • _mo
        <ruaok> Windows is a really nice and shiny... turd.
      • 2005-07-02 18354, 2005

      • warp has quit
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      • _mo
        XD
      • 2005-07-02 18357, 2005

      • _mo
        hiii
      • 2005-07-02 18304, 2005

      • _mo downloads and installs picard
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      • warp joined the channel
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      • nikki_
        hei mo!
      • 2005-07-02 18314, 2005

      • _mo
        :)
      • 2005-07-02 18338, 2005

      • _mo
        I m now instaling picard. wish my luck that it works on my turdy system and doesn crash
      • 2005-07-02 18307, 2005

      • nikki_ grins
      • 2005-07-02 18348, 2005

      • _mo
        hmm.. the instal setup path thingy is ooold. aslo I don't have a way to decide that I don't want icons in my start menu
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      • _mo
        don't know of thats abug or feature :)
      • 2005-07-02 18310, 2005

      • nikki_
        go add it to the annoyances wiki page then
      • 2005-07-02 18325, 2005

      • _mo
        it works well to install ina custom made for it path with ø in the name though
      • 2005-07-02 18331, 2005

      • nikki_
        ah
      • 2005-07-02 18300, 2005

      • _mo
        wow, the program doesnt have an icon of itslef, but utilises on in the folder..
      • 2005-07-02 18302, 2005

      • _mo
        how..
      • 2005-07-02 18304, 2005

      • _mo
        hmm
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      • _mo
        well it starts ok
      • 2005-07-02 18355, 2005

      • _mo
        let me see
      • 2005-07-02 18359, 2005

      • Shepard has quit
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      • _mo
        will it find files i've already taggedwith the old tagger
      • 2005-07-02 18354, 2005

      • _mo
        oooooooohhh
      • 2005-07-02 18357, 2005

      • _mo
        hehee
      • 2005-07-02 18304, 2005

      • _mo
        I like the new CDlookup
      • 2005-07-02 18313, 2005

      • _mo
        it just opens up in a browser window
      • 2005-07-02 18333, 2005

      • _mo
        giving me the toc instantly
      • 2005-07-02 18334, 2005

      • _mo
        hi
      • 2005-07-02 18346, 2005

      • _mo
        ok I will atleast use piccard for CD lookup from now on
      • 2005-07-02 18301, 2005

      • _mo
        I can minimizet that and use it later
      • 2005-07-02 18305, 2005

      • _mo
        wow how cool
      • 2005-07-02 18311, 2005

      • _mo
        but fist!
      • 2005-07-02 18325, 2005

      • _mo
        I need a drink of non alcoholic refreshing bewerage
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      • _mo
        hmm. I found drinking yogurt
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      • _mo
        (which is spelled the exact same in .nogan)
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      • _mo
        hmm wma support would sweeet
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      • _mo
        :/
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      • nikki_
        wouldn't wma be pretty hard to support?
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      • _mo
        yeah
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      • _mo
        it could be done as a plugin
      • 2005-07-02 18342, 2005

      • _mo
        wery smart setup
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      • _mo
        I can't find the logfile.. where is it?
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      • nikki_
        they're all done like plugins, afaik