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_mo
exactly
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ojnkpjg
ok, well, aliases as they're used in a lot of cases
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_mo
lucene is goign t oneed it
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ojnkpjg
common misspellings, acronyms
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_mo
for lucene we are goig nt oneed trackanme aliases
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ojnkpjg
i'd at least like the name 'alias' to go away
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ojnkpjg
because it's misleading
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_mo
yes. find a nother, better one
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_mo
do you have any ideas?
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_mo
;)
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ojnkpjg
sure, but i don't have the time to work on any of the code
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ojnkpjg
so.
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_mo
then please suggest an name!
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ojnkpjg
'search hints'
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ojnkpjg
maybe
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_mo
baadd
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ojnkpjg
why
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_mo
EH! try again
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ojnkpjg
what else are they used for?
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nikki_
I don't like it either
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_mo
search hints?
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_mo
everythign and anythign
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ojnkpjg
i think the name should be descriptive of the functional role the play
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_mo
uhm
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nikki_
but then they'll be used for something else and need to be renamed again
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_mo
exactly
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_mo
I think we are stuck with alias :)
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nikki_
what if picard adds support for choosing an alias for tagging?
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ojnkpjg
well, i guess that ought to be settled before anything is changed
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nikki_
(something I'd like to see...)
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ClutchEr2
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_mo
you got my vote
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ClutchEr2
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_mo subscribes to help vote down morons
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ojnkpjg
maybe something like 'alternative name'
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ojnkpjg
but i'm not sur ethat's any better
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ojnkpjg
it's almost a synonym of alias
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_mo
and what exactly does 'alias' not mean?
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ojnkpjg
not performance name
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ojnkpjg
'this band is soemtiems called X but doesn't make releases attributed to X"
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ojnkpjg
something like that
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ojnkpjg
maybe 'sometimes called'
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_mo
but we don't necessary use aliases for only that
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ojnkpjg
what is their role as you see it?
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_mo
theyre...
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_mo
aliases
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_mo giggles
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ojnkpjg
hehe
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_mo
sorry
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_mo
bbiab
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_mo
tagging
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nikki_
they're tools of eeevil! designed to annoy people! ;)
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_mo
lol
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ojnkpjg
if there are plans to use aliases for more than just searching, then i'd be sympathetic to adding things like acronyms as aliases
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ojnkpjg
but i hadn't heard of anything
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_mo
but they *are*
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ojnkpjg
but i think a better name would serve everybody well
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ojnkpjg
not right now, are they?
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_mo
yes they are!
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_mo
yes
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ojnkpjg
what are they used for other than searching?
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Kilu
==foobar== �5 Denis10 by5 Blondie10 from 5Plastic Letters � ==215kbps VBR==
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_mo
uhm..
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_mo
! look behind you a 3-headed monkey!
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_mo runs far far away
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Kilu
aliases could be used in tagging
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ojnkpjg
they could be
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_mo
they soudl be
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ojnkpjg
but i was asking what they are used for currently
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Kilu
and I hope they will be
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ojnkpjg
as far as i know, it's just searching right now
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Kilu
but currently
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_mo
....
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_mo
preventing bogus artist creation!
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ojnkpjg
that's why i was saying i'd be sympathetic to adding thigns like acronyms if there are other planned uses
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Kilu
hehe
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ojnkpjg
that's true, i had forgotten about that
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ojnkpjg
but i think that can be reduced to a search problem
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ojnkpjg
sort of like the page you get when you try to add an artist that already exists
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ojnkpjg
"you're attempting to add the artist X which is similar to artist Y. is this really what you want to do"
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_mo
it soudl have a 'are you sure yo uant to create a duplicated artist thing
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_mo
it already has
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_mo
at the ned is a 'yes I am sure I want to create a duplicated artist' checkbox
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_mo
right next to it sould be a 'no, I want to merge instead'
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ojnkpjg
well, i mean in cases where aliases are used to prevent bogus artist creation
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ojnkpjg
of course that involves making the search very smart, which is a hard problem
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Shepard has quit
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_mo
eek! it wont let me change languages!
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_mo
stupid bloated thingy
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_mo
sorry nikki
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_mo
just for now, minimoni has a itlaian album o_O
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_mo
ah, there. I fix
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eMb
<ojnkpjg> "you're attempting to add the artist X which is similar to artist Y. is this really what you want to do"
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eMb
That saved me yesterday from adding an artist that wasn't found when searching.
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eMb
:)
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eMb
Also, it would be nice to avoid people creating "Mitalica"
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Kilu
I like meatallica better
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eMb
hehe
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DJKC
meatallica sounds like a queercore cover band for them
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Kilu
I don't know what kind of music is queercore, and for some reason I prefer it that way :)
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DJKC
it's pretty much what it sounds like. gay punk
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Kilu
hooray
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orogor joined the channel
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kmagdsick|away
kmagdsick|away is now known as kmagdsick
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_mo
rr
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_mo has quit
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orogor has quit
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_mo joined the channel
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_mo
look at this album!
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_mo
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PRAEst76
no no no.mp3
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Shepard joined the channel
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Kilu
haha
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Kilu
that's bad
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ClutchEr2
Then fix it
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ClutchEr2
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Kilu
Kilu is now known as Kilu[away]
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Shepard
the logic for the second link looks correct to me. "Beethoven" goes before "Beethoven,"
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Shepard
well and on the first one Clara and John have no sortname but nonetheless they should be sorted above "Schuhmann, Robert"
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_mo
arrrrrrgggg
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_mo
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ClutchEr2
Ah, stupid me, the sortname! tnx
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ClutchEr2
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Shepard
hm.. it's not style conform but i think it's better like this so people won't confuse it with LvB
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_mo
I don't know what you've even done?
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Shepard
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Shepard
look at the sort name
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Shepard
he changed it so that it will be sorted below LvB
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_mo
hmmm
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_mo
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joshk
ruaok: here?
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Shepard
mo: without more information: nothing :)
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PRAEst76
Yeah, just looks confusing.
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PRAEst76
Are those sidenumbers?
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PRAEst76
side/track
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_mo
ugly
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_mo
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joshk rapes the TRM server
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_mo
hmm
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ruaok
joshk: yes, but no. I'm going to the office, so chat in about 20 minutes?
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Shepard
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_mo
ja
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_mo
vote plz
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_mo
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ClutchEr2