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      • yllona
        sorry
      • 2005-11-29 33312, 2005

      • yllona
        thanks for bringing it to my attention
      • 2005-11-29 33359, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        thanks nechto13
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      • nechto13
        that's funny cause I though that the original moderator put feat Stevie Wonder and the note that inhouseuk made
      • 2005-11-29 33344, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        it can be confusing sometimes, you need to look carefully on the left side to see who left the notes.
      • 2005-11-29 33358, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        the original mod was also done by an automoderator who didn't allow it to go to a vote
      • 2005-11-29 33347, 2005

      • nechto13
        alright I'm done with the soundtrack, check out http://musicbrainz.org/album/99a744ad-ebed-410a-9… if you wnat to
      • 2005-11-29 33336, 2005

      • nechto13
        but I strongly recomend seeing the film
      • 2005-11-29 33345, 2005

      • nechto13
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      • yllona
        looks good. you can add the artists for the individual tracks, if you have the energy
      • 2005-11-29 33319, 2005

      • nechto13
        how do I do that? I would have done that instead of creating ARs for every song, unless I need to do both
      • 2005-11-29 33301, 2005

      • yllona
        you added the artists for each son which is good, now you need to link them together
      • 2005-11-29 33313, 2005

      • nechto13
        is there a guideline page for that?
      • 2005-11-29 33322, 2005

      • yllona
        when i click on track one i get the artist "Uvertyura" but it says that the artist has no relationshops
      • 2005-11-29 33354, 2005

      • yllona
        bou the artist appears on teh correct album, so you're okay
      • 2005-11-29 33357, 2005

      • nechto13
        that's because it's an instrumental
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      • yllona
        ah, thanks
      • 2005-11-29 33314, 2005

      • eMb has quit
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      • yllona
        track two has ARs tho...
      • 2005-11-29 33348, 2005

      • yllona
        so i think you're good
      • 2005-11-29 33356, 2005

      • nechto13
        everything that doesn't have ARs is an instrumental
      • 2005-11-29 33304, 2005

      • yllona
        okay
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      • inhouseuk is very impressed
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      • inhouseuk
        that's good work
      • 2005-11-29 33331, 2005

      • yllona
        yeah me too. in multiple languages no less
      • 2005-11-29 33343, 2005

      • nechto13
        as a matter of fact all instrumental tracks were performed by State Symphonic Orchestra of Cinematography
      • 2005-11-29 33359, 2005

      • nechto13
        am I supposed to put that somewhere?
      • 2005-11-29 33302, 2005

      • yllona
        can you add that as an AR?
      • 2005-11-29 33347, 2005

      • yllona
        create the artist "State Symphonic Orchestra of Cinematography" and add it as an AR to the instrumental tracks
      • 2005-11-29 33306, 2005

      • nechto13
        allright I'll add them as an artist first I doubt that anyone has done that
      • 2005-11-29 33321, 2005

      • yllona
        done waht?
      • 2005-11-29 33304, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        add the orchestra in the past
      • 2005-11-29 33305, 2005

      • nechto13
        what I meant is that I doubt that it's in mb database
      • 2005-11-29 33305, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        added
      • 2005-11-29 33320, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        it isn't
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      • yllona
        that's okay, i've added orchestras... and many artists. the last musical i added had a primary cast of 33 singers. and an ensemble of 22 singers, plus full orchestra
      • 2005-11-29 33357, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        adding that many artists and AR's is very stressful
      • 2005-11-29 33310, 2005

      • yllona
        no sh--
      • 2005-11-29 33355, 2005

      • yllona
        i'm lobbying for a mechanism to create a "set" of artists that can be applied across multiple tracks on an album
      • 2005-11-29 33327, 2005

      • yllona
        would be useful for jazz also, where you have varying personnel on tracks
      • 2005-11-29 33358, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        so create the artists and associate them with the vocals/intruments and then apply that to the tracks. so you don't have to repeat the proces for every track
      • 2005-11-29 33319, 2005

      • yllona
        yes, that's it!
      • 2005-11-29 33357, 2005

      • yllona
        would be great if if persistent across sessions, but even baby steps would be helpful.
      • 2005-11-29 33350, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        so you could have a sort of "address book" of your most used artist + instrument/vocal associations that you could use at a later stage. Further developement could allow you to share certain entries out of that address book with other moderators.....
      • 2005-11-29 33310, 2005

      • yllona
        yes
      • 2005-11-29 33352, 2005

      • yllona
        would make for greater consistency also. and the artist sets could be moderated also
      • 2005-11-29 33319, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        have you already proposed this?
      • 2005-11-29 33336, 2005

      • yllona
        so i might create a set "trane quartet - 1958" that could be applied across multiple albums
      • 2005-11-29 33342, 2005

      • yllona
        and tracks on albums
      • 2005-11-29 33359, 2005

      • yllona
        no i haven't proposed it yet, other than IRC
      • 2005-11-29 33327, 2005

      • yllona is listening to When Malindy Sings by Abbey Lincoln from Straight Ahead (1961) (0:05 / 4:05)
      • 2005-11-29 33337, 2005

      • yllona
        like this track.. do you know the personnel? max roach, joe henderson, eric dolphy, mal waldron
      • 2005-11-29 33354, 2005

      • yllona
        i could apply that set across ~20 albums
      • 2005-11-29 33307, 2005

      • yllona
        or more
      • 2005-11-29 33323, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        with ease :)
      • 2005-11-29 33351, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        instead of using the current painful interface
      • 2005-11-29 33353, 2005

      • yllona
        not to mention the lyrics are a poem by paul laurence dunbar
      • 2005-11-29 33352, 2005

      • mustaqila makes raspberry sounds in an attempt to blow hair out of his mouth
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      • yllona
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      • inhouseuk
        the only thing I'm lobbying for is the ability to lock known good data, this I feel is desperately required, especially with paying customers using the data
      • 2005-11-29 33347, 2005

      • yllona
        yes. but i can't spend 24 hours per album adding all the necessary useful data
      • 2005-11-29 33308, 2005

      • yllona
        also to we need to create ARs for "company" and "ensemble" for use on musical theater and opera
      • 2005-11-29 33312, 2005

      • nechto13
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      • yllona
        nechto13: that's quite fabulous
      • 2005-11-29 33301, 2005

      • nechto13
        I'm sure the state orchestra will have no albums in the near future
      • 2005-11-29 33314, 2005

      • yllona
        ah, but in the past!!!
      • 2005-11-29 33318, 2005

      • nechto13
        and in the past the music belonged to the state, or the people
      • 2005-11-29 33332, 2005

      • nechto13
        now it belongs to record companies
      • 2005-11-29 33334, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        nechto13: can you add an english translation of the orchestra name into the artist annotation
      • 2005-11-29 33335, 2005

      • yllona
        i have one more request? could you create a latinate version of the orchestra name, ie "state orchestra of..."
      • 2005-11-29 33358, 2005

      • yllona
        i have several russian operas where that info could beuseful
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      • nechto13
        ok, consider it done
      • 2005-11-29 33340, 2005

      • yllona
        thank you.
      • 2005-11-29 33358, 2005

      • inhouseuk wishes all new users were like nechto13
      • 2005-11-29 33316, 2005

      • yllona
        he's a dream
      • 2005-11-29 33352, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        might be a she, you can't tell unless they tell you
      • 2005-11-29 33317, 2005

      • yllona
        that too! sorry nechto13 if you're a girl...
      • 2005-11-29 33335, 2005

      • nechto13
        you don't have to apologize, I'm not
      • 2005-11-29 33319, 2005

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      • yllona
        nechto13: how many languages do you have?
      • 2005-11-29 33301, 2005

      • nechto13
        I'm fluent in english and russian, but I also studies belarussian and french
      • 2005-11-29 33310, 2005

      • nechto13
        *studied
      • 2005-11-29 33300, 2005

      • yllona
        did you list those languages on your MB profile?
      • 2005-11-29 33319, 2005

      • nechto13
        you mean in the bio?
      • 2005-11-29 33324, 2005

      • yllona
        no there's a place where you can list your languages... it may be on the wiki... one sec
      • 2005-11-29 33338, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        yllona: look at the channel topic !
      • 2005-11-29 33352, 2005

      • PRAEst76
        No-one ever looks at the channel topics
      • 2005-11-29 33356, 2005

      • yllona
        yes.
      • 2005-11-29 33321, 2005

      • yllona
        thanks. nechto13 add your languages here http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ModeratorLanguage
      • 2005-11-29 33331, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        :)
      • 2005-11-29 33304, 2005

      • yllona
        i look, but sometimes is resize my window and the topics don't display fully
      • 2005-11-29 33320, 2005

      • yllona
        my bad (again)
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      • inhouseuk
        don't worry, I had to think where I'd seen it
      • 2005-11-29 33348, 2005

      • nechto13
        am I supposed to create my userpage before I can do that?
      • 2005-11-29 33318, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        yes, you'll need to create your userpage first
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      • inhouseuk hasn't done his yet
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      • yllona
        and the instructions are klugey at best
      • 2005-11-29 33310, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        we need a language classfication below some
      • 2005-11-29 33342, 2005

      • yllona
        i still can't find basic instructions for creating a "UserPage"
      • 2005-11-29 33330, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        I'd need ModeratorLanguage/Russian/a_little_when_nobody_around_can_communicate_in_english :)
      • 2005-11-29 33329, 2005

      • nechto13
        I created a profile, but I'm still not sure where to put ModeratorLanguage/Russian/Native
      • 2005-11-29 33312, 2005

      • yllona
        i couldn't find ot either, and the wiki pages aren't much help. i'll ask one of the old timers in the morning. can you check in tomorrow?
      • 2005-11-29 33326, 2005

      • nechto13
        aure
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      • nechto13
        *sure
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      • yllona
        thanks
      • 2005-11-29 33338, 2005

      • yllona is listening to That's Him by Abbey Lincoln from That's Him! (1957) (1:12 / 3:26)
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      • inhouseuk
        when you create a profile, your login name appears in grey at the top right. click it an it'll allow you to create a user page
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      • mustaqila :: Marillion - Incommunicado
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      • nechto13
        that's funny, I put so much effort in adding the soundtrack and my files are all below 40% similarity, I bet they'd have higher similarity rating with incorrect artists and track names
      • 2005-11-29 33312, 2005

      • nechto13
        I already created a user page, I'm still not sure how to add myself to a language group
      • 2005-11-29 33318, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        it seems you just put ["ModeratorLanguage/Russian/Native"] somewhere on the page when editing it. But I might be wrong
      • 2005-11-29 33338, 2005

      • nechto13
        I'll try that
      • 2005-11-29 33359, 2005

      • yllona is listening to Porgy (Take 1) by Abbey Lincoln from That's Him! (1957) (1:07 / 4:30)
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      • yllona is glad inhouseuk can decipher the MBWiki
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      • nechto13
        yep that took care of it, thanks
      • 2005-11-29 33329, 2005

      • nechto13 shockingly realizes that Anna German hasn't been added to musicbrainz and gets into modding zone
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      • yllona
        aww shit.. we've created a monster :)
      • 2005-11-29 33359, 2005

      • mustaqila :: Hot Butter - Popcorn
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      • mustaqila
        Yay :D
      • 2005-11-29 33310, 2005

      • mustaqila hops about on one leg for no apparent reason :
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      • inhouseuk
        a one hit wonder
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      • mustaqila
        But a hell of a wonder at that
      • 2005-11-29 33340, 2005

      • yllona is listening to Peanut Butter by Lenny White from Best of Friends (1979) (0:06 / 3:37)
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      • mustaqila
        I'm actually pretty surprised with my last.fm station, I've had 1 metal track play since I started the stream heh
      • 2005-11-29 33310, 2005

      • nechto13
        hmm, in what language should I add her though? she sang in russian, polish, english, and italian
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      • nechto13
        she was from Poland though
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      • yllona
        on the same album?
      • 2005-11-29 33338, 2005

      • nechto13
        sometimes in the same song
      • 2005-11-29 33355, 2005

      • yllona
        yeah i have the same prob w/ angelique kido
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      • yllona
        *kidjo
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      • yllona
        use the release of the CD for language...
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      • nechto13
        but, angelique kidjo sings mainly in french, doesn't she?
      • 2005-11-29 33314, 2005

      • yllona
        ie, is the CD cover in english? or russian? or italian....
      • 2005-11-29 33349, 2005

      • nechto13
        besides Anna Gerrman has been released in both russian and polish
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      • nechto13
        maybe in english too.
      • 2005-11-29 33313, 2005

      • yllona
        nechto13: no angelique sings in french portugeuse and /or spanish, wolof and english
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      • yllona
        so if i have a US release of angelique's CD i use english, if i have a french import i use french, etc
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      • yllona
        basically i use whatever language the CD cover is printed in
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      • nechto13
        yes, but they use the same script, unlike russian and english for instance.
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      • nechto13
        alright I'll add her name in russian and give her aliases
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      • yllona
        heh, good job
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      • inhouseuk jumps up and down excitedly
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      • mustaqila
        ?
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      • inhouseuk
        my wife has the film that nechto13 added the soundtrack for earlier. I can watch it later :)
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      • inhouseuk
        it's a very famous russian movie
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      • inhouseuk thinks he has seen it before
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      • nechto13
        by the way I recomend anything by Anna German, she has operatic voice, but she went into song writing.
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