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      • yllona
        g'night
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      • nechto13
        night yllona
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      • inhouseuk wonders if nikki_ is getting the today is birthday artists using a method similar to this
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      • inhouseuk
        select gid, name from (select gid, name, begindate, (extract(DOY from begindate::TIMESTAMP) = extract(DOY from TIMESTAMP 'NOW')) as is_birthday from artist where split_part(begindate,'-',2) != '00' and split_part(begindate,'-',3) != '00') AS t where is_birthday;
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      • inhouseuk
        it was fun because the date fields in the tables are char(10) and they can contain invalid true timestamp values
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      • Muz
        Fuck
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      • Muz goes to bed
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      • nechto13
        good night muz
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      • Muz
        G'night
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      • Muz is twitchy lol
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      • inhouseuk
        night Muz
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      • Muz
        Night in
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      • Muz
        house
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      • ruaok
        yep, inhouseuk... our partial dates can be a pain in the ass
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      • ruaok
        got a new trivia page to look at yet? :0)
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      • inhouseuk
        ruaok: give me a *little* while :)
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      • nechto13
        just to check that i've been doing the right thing all along. at least half of the artists that i added to ISO have russian sounding names, but i did not yield to temptation to put their names in cyrillic, since they could be from any one of the republics of former soviet union
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      • inhouseuk
        which might not be cyrillic such as in georgia :)
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      • nechto13
        right, that's why i didn't to do it. for some reason i put russian names for belarusian artists too, which sort of buffles me
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      • inhouseuk
        cool! it would have been Eva Cassidy's birthday tomorrow
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      • nechto13
        inhouseuk, do you eliminate groups out of result set or not?
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      • inhouseuk
        I'm not extracting all the columns out of the table anyway
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      • inhouseuk
        oh you mean group artists?
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      • nechto13
        right
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      • inhouseuk
        yes, I've now included an extra where clause 'type = 1' which only returns persons
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      • inhouseuk
        it wasn't in the code I pasted earlier
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      • nechto13 noticed
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      • nechto13
        i see, what about type unknown artists? they could be aliases for people? :)
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      • inhouseuk
        yes, they are currently being excluded
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      • nechto13
        *performance names
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      • nechto13
        why?
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      • nechto13
        cause it's hard to tell if it's a person or not?
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      • inhouseuk
        yup
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      • inhouseuk
        for today there is 20 rows checking for type = 1 and 25 rows without
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      • inhouseuk
        but normally if there is a begindate set, the person/group will be as well
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      • inhouseuk
        4 of the 25 rows are groups
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      • nechto13
        i doubted that MB used different date fields for people's birthdays and group's founding dates
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      • inhouseuk
        correct, the same field is used
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      • nechto13
        i don't think i know any music fans who are so hardcore that they celebrate the founding dates of their favorite groups though
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      • inhouseuk
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      • nechto13
        hmm, if i were to put in an insraeli artist named Sally Meth Ben Moshe, the last name would be Ben Moshe?
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      • srotta
        I guess it's a patronym. I don't know how to handle those officially.
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      • nechto13
        i'm gonna cheat i'll pretend there is a dash between ben and moshe in the name
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      • inhouseuk has now added their current age to it
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      • inhouseuk
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      • nechto13
        ooh, it's Loza's birthday today. i didn't even notice. this calls for a celebrations :P
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      • nikki_ sighs
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      • nikki_
        I got 2 hours of sleep :(
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      • nechto13
        you got 2 hours of sleep left? or you slept only 2 hours?
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      • inhouseuk hasn't had any yet
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      • nikki_
        I only slept for 2 hours
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      • nechto13 either
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      • inhouseuk
        and my brain is now totally frazzled :(
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      • nikki_ is supposed to now go and sit in college for 7 hours
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      • nechto13
        i'm not using my brain, so i'm cool :D
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      • nikki_
        it also took me 2 hours to actually *get* to sleep
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      • nechto13 listens to Zima by Yuriy Loza to celebrate his birthday
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      • nechto13
        that doesn't sound good. it never took me 2 hours to get to sleep, maybe an hour, hour and a half tops and those were seriously messed up days
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      • nikki_
        technically it took a lot longer than that, I tried to sleep several times
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      • nikki_
        I'm just exhausted and it's screwing everything up :(
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      • nikki_
        I wish I could just knock myself out at 10pm for 8 hours.
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      • inhouseuk
        in those situations I drink a glass of warm milk and put the TV on the most boring channel possible
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      • nechto13
        hello yalaforge
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      • nikki_
        hi matthias
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      • yalaforge
        moin!
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      • inhouseuk
        morning yalaforge
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      • yalaforge
        wow, pretty busy here, so early in the morning :-)
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      • yalaforge
        nikki_: how far did you get with the search code yesterday?
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      • nikki_
        I was almost done...
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      • yalaforge
        can I look at it somewhere?
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      • nikki_
        it wasn't much different from yours
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      • yalaforge
        ah, ok.
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      • nikki_ thinks her bed looks so inviting... :(
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      • yalaforge
        no college today?
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      • nechto13
        inhouseuk: do you know how come Israel Philharmonic wasn't in the result set for your AR query?
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      • nikki_
        yes, that's why it's a sad faced smiley
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      • yalaforge
        ah, I see :-)
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      • nikki_
        because 2 hours isn't enough sleep for working.
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      • inhouseuk
        nechto13: nope
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      • nechto13
        it had at least 30 of them at the time, i think
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      • inhouseuk
        nechto13: I need to rethink it, the results don't quite match as expected
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      • nechto13
        i see. i'm planning to beat elton john. even if i have to make up fictitious ARs :P
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      • yalaforge
        dammit, everybody has more ARs than tori amos these days
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      • inhouseuk
        AR's can be in initiated in two different directions and I was only one pulling out one direction
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      • nikki_
        yalaforge: weeeeell, you can always add more!
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      • yalaforge
        too much work :-/
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      • nikki_
        hmm, that's a good excuse.
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      • yalaforge
        the best excuse, whether true or not ;-)
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      • nechto13
        i say orchestras should have more ARs period. more people, means more ARs. and i think all those ARs should be added by someone other than me
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      • inhouseuk goes for a shower and a shave, currently he's a smelly hedgehog
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      • nechto13
        i want others to experience the joy
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      • nikki_
        I stick to wikipedia, discogs, official and amazon urls.
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      • yllona
        nechto13: why do you think i stopped adding as many mods? and you didn't add album or track ARs -- which I *always* do. so quit whining
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      • yalaforge
        moin yllona
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      • yllona
        morning yalaforge
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      • nechto13
        don't know 'em and even if i did i never said i'll add those. still i'm not whining or blaming anyone
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      • nechto13
        the fact of the matter is i have plenty of stuff on my to do list and ISO wasn't on it
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      • yalaforge
        http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/XMLWebService#head-ca… <- we got to schema v1.0rc1, in case someone is interested
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      • nechto13
        the fact of the matter is i have plenty of stuff on my to do list and ISO wasn't on it. get n00bs to do it :P i have 32 volumes of visotsky in my queue
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      • nikki_
        yalaforge: maybe it should consistently stick to either UUID or MBID
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      • yalaforge
        nikki_: oh, right. I'm still not sure what the official term is. syntactically it's the ascii representation of a UUID
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      • yalaforge
        but we call it UUID, MBID and sometimes GID
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      • yalaforge would like to pick one, but is not sure which
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      • nikki_ always uses MBID, but isn't sure what everyone else thinks
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      • yalaforge
        I prefer that one, too
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      • yalaforge
        it should be irrelevant for users that it's a UUID, right?
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      • nikki_
        I assume so
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      • yalaforge
        ok, I'll change it. thanks!
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      • yalaforge
        done
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      • nikki_
        I like it more than UUID because a MBID is a UUID with some meaning in MB, you can't just shove any old UUID in and expect results :)
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      • yalaforge
        yeah, right. and there are different versions of UUIDs, too
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      • yalaforge
        (different ways to calculate them, which is irrelevant to users)
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      • nikki_
        hmm! it's apparently -0.3C outside, so presumably not much more in my bathroom
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      • nikki_
        I should just turn off the fridge and keep things in my bathroom.
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      • nikki_
        I gave up on trying to warm it up and just left the window open
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      • nikki_
        it's freezing in there now, but at least it smells nice
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      • nikki_
        it was freezing in there before, so it's no different.
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      • nikki_ sighs and leaves
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      • yalaforge
        bye nikki!
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      • nechto13 nudges yllona
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      • yllona
        yes?
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      • nechto13
        there are only 2 piano players left, which are called guest performers
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      • nechto13
        other then them there are stage managers, libririans, and so on
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      • nechto13
        do you want them in there?
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      • yllona
        once again, they would be "guests" for specific liver performers and/or recordings, so it's a non-issue unless you have the albums (or bootlegs)
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      • yllona
        *live performances, sorry
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      • nechto13
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      • nechto13
        it's like they are regular guests
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      • nechto13
        i don't think i understand that
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      • yllona
        then those are alternate pianists, not guests. if they aree listed as members, then they are on contract.
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      • yllona
        what's so difficult about this?
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      • yalaforge thinks this is all voodoo and returns to hacking some python code ;-)
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      • yllona
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      • nechto13
        it says on each one of them Orchestra Member Guest player. i just don't understand that
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      • yllona
        he is a member of the orchestra, and guest soloist. he's probably under contract for a specified period