http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4375641 <--- Does anybody else have this CD? I have it sitting right in front of me and the tracks listed fit with CD 1 not CD 2, so I changed the album name...
2006-03-04 06341, 2006
yllona
shep: see how the CD "Just as I Am / Still Bill" appears as official compilation?
2006-03-04 06352, 2006
Shepard
yes
2006-03-04 06305, 2006
Shepard
that's what I meant, some seem to be wrong listed
2006-03-04 06312, 2006
Shepard
but I don't know about him
2006-03-04 06313, 2006
yllona
i would think of this as official album.
2006-03-04 06301, 2006
yllona
it's a release of two complete albums, each out of print individually
2006-03-04 06325, 2006
Shepard
change to to what you think fits best
2006-03-04 06348, 2006
Shepard
also a lot of albums missing it seems
2006-03-04 06323, 2006
yllona
yes. he's really prolific, and still actively recording
2006-03-04 06331, 2006
yllona
bill wither s has been "re-discovered" by young ppl as a smooth jazz artist
2006-03-04 06356, 2006
yllona silently gags on "smooth jazz"
2006-03-04 06313, 2006
Malnilion
Oh wow, hey Shepard...what do you do when different 2-disc editions of the same release have the CDs in different order?
2006-03-04 06339, 2006
Shepard
add them as separate albums
2006-03-04 06336, 2006
Malnilion
But they're like the same release, it's very strange...
2006-03-04 06334, 2006
Shepard
if you can proof that there are two different versions with different tracklistings, add them as separate albums
2006-03-04 06344, 2006
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teleGUISE_
THANKS MUCH to nikki_ & inhouseuk for creating the bogus release date report... *ALL* done!! Yeah :)
2006-03-04 06345, 2006
teleGUISE_
huh... i see nikki isn't here to celebrate
2006-03-04 06348, 2006
inhouseuk
fantantic
2006-03-04 06325, 2006
inhouseuk
how many were there in the end?
2006-03-04 06341, 2006
teleGUISE_
umm... lots :)
2006-03-04 06305, 2006
teleGUISE_
actually what I did was worked off nikki_'s report which had 112 then crossed it with yours
2006-03-04 06342, 2006
teleGUISE_
which had i believe 4 or 5 others that were bogus as well... leaving i think if you run your report again around 4 or 5 still that are German releases
2006-03-04 06310, 2006
teleGUISE_
so 117 total ...
2006-03-04 06327, 2006
inhouseuk
there are 12 left on my report
2006-03-04 06316, 2006
teleGUISE_
would that have been at this minute or a few hour old data? Not sure when the last of my edits passed
2006-03-04 06304, 2006
teleGUISE_
ok never mind ... duh.. I can just look at the report :)
2006-03-04 06314, 2006
inhouseuk
replication runs on the hour and I grab the updates at 7 minutes past
2006-03-04 06300, 2006
teleGUISE_
i wondered how that worked.. so you dont grab the entire db every time you just grab updates and apply them.. is that right??
ok fixed those 2 others now!... whew.. so there were upwords of 120 bad dates which needed research for the correct ones, around 90+ that needed ASIN AR's added, around 15-20 that needed language and album attributes set
2006-03-04 06358, 2006
pankkake
:)
2006-03-04 06325, 2006
teleGUISE_
i had marked it all down.. but threw the print-out out last night... when not wanting to see it ever again :)
2006-03-04 06345, 2006
teleGUISE_
there were some classical issues which i wasnt sure about... (regarding whether they were correct) which i mentioned .. not sure if anyone looked
2006-03-04 06304, 2006
teleGUISE_
http://www.musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=437… actually if i can get some votes on this date removal in the interim, since.. zout is making things difficult to whether the album should be removed or not :)
2006-03-04 06300, 2006
teleGUISE_
any Jethro Tull'ers on.. that can verify a single 45 track release exists?
except in concert, you cooldn't get a 45 minute track on an a single side of an LP
2006-03-04 06320, 2006
yllona
45 minutes is even long for tull in concert, 15-20 minutes maybe
2006-03-04 06325, 2006
teleGUISE_
it adds up to the same time the split release totals.. which was the last link i posted.. so that was my guess that it is a homebrew single track version of the real split one
The original LP had two tracks due to 2 LP sides. The original CD had the song split in two just like the LP. Then there's that 4-track reissue with the live and interview tracks.
2006-03-04 06317, 2006
teleGUISE_
inhouseuk: not sure I want this but how hard would it be to now scour US release dates that aren't tuesday's .. obviously only the ones with complete dates??
2006-03-04 06321, 2006
HairMetalAddict
I'm almost certain I recall a pressing of Thick with it all as one track, but it was a long time back and I'm not really a fan so I've forgotten details. Hard to google for it too.
2006-03-04 06355, 2006
yllona
teleguise: that's not a golden rule for US releases
2006-03-04 06306, 2006
teleGUISE_
if it's valid let me know and ill delete the edit.. I just based it off of the looks of it and everything i found
yllona: yes I know... but probably 90% of what will be entered here would fall into it
2006-03-04 06347, 2006
HairMetalAddict
That appears to be only 1 track. Could just be an Amazon hose-up..
2006-03-04 06322, 2006
teleGUISE_
im not going to change anything uncertain... im guessing ill find a lot US dates that are entered on Mondays.. aka the UK ones and things of that nature
2006-03-04 06358, 2006
teleGUISE_
amazon lists that type of stuff alot.. ill see the amazon us site list UK dates and the amazon UK site list the US date
2006-03-04 06319, 2006
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teleGUISE_
it was interesting to see that about 80-90% of the bogus 1990-10-25 US amazon dates found, that they were shown to be released in 1988 or 1989
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teleGUISE_
i'd say 1988, 1989, 1985, 1984 in order
2006-03-04 06311, 2006
teleGUISE_
yllona: you know i've sent 4 emails... so far and noboby besides mail bots answered me.. regarding release day's and how it all became
2006-03-04 06327, 2006
yllona
IIRC amazon had a pretty serious data load hitch in the late '90s ('98) it's in the annual report, "technology risks"
2006-03-04 06346, 2006
yllona
tele: e-mail to AMZ?
2006-03-04 06347, 2006
teleGUISE_
i've asked AMG, BillBoard & Sony
2006-03-04 06327, 2006
teleGUISE_
Sony BMG i believe ... or some sony label site
2006-03-04 06314, 2006
teleGUISE_
i even proposed it as I was student doing a research paper and wanted to know how it all works :)
2006-03-04 06331, 2006
yllona
send me the e-mail, and i'll make a couple of phone calls. i may not get the "official" story, but it will be close enough for a working model.
2006-03-04 06335, 2006
teleGUISE_
which is kind of true cuz i really -do- want to know
2006-03-04 06341, 2006
yllona
me too.
2006-03-04 06324, 2006
teleGUISE_
the mail wasn't anything fancy but if you want it...
2006-03-04 06339, 2006
yllona
my nick @ gmail
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teleGUISE_
ok.. will do.. now i hope it's still in my sent box... 2 were those online comment/help crap box things
2006-03-04 06306, 2006
yllona
gotta go, back later
2006-03-04 06307, 2006
teleGUISE_
huh... 2 more I missed according to inhouse's report :)...
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teleGUISE_
cya4now
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teleGUISE_
which will leave 7 .. pretty close to my guesstimate of 4-5 :)
teleGUISE_: regarding release dates not tuedays, it can be done but it is a fair amount of work, If I get time during the week I'll have a look
2006-03-04 06340, 2006
Shepard
as long as he doesn't do that for german releases :)
2006-03-04 06332, 2006
inhouseuk
no, I'll set it specific for US
2006-03-04 06319, 2006
Shepard
I mean more because he still thinks .de has special release dates, too. which is bullshit
2006-03-04 06326, 2006
Shepard
*days
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inhouseuk
teleGUISE_: it was easier that I originally thought. But I haven't checked the accuracy, so I recommend you double check each one. It's also quite a large report - http://www.mb.inhouse.co.uk/us-not-tue.html
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Shepard`
Shepard` is now known as Shepard
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teleGUISE_
Shepard: such language.. from such a nice young man :) ... I never said release days were foolproof, I just noticed a pattern.. German's never seem to be on the weeked where as Asian countries do
2006-03-04 06308, 2006
Shepard
me not nice
2006-03-04 06314, 2006
Shepard
me evil and mean!
2006-03-04 06345, 2006
teleGUISE_
inhouseuk: Thanks... Ill give it a look.. one thing could you make the links point to mb.org
2006-03-04 06350, 2006
teleGUISE_
so i dont have to make a scriptlet for it ;)
2006-03-04 06351, 2006
teleGUISE_
actually.. you've been nice.. haven't seen any of your "evil and mean!" edit comments to noobz lately
inhouseuk: great! im glad it wasnt too much work.. cuz like you send its quite large and I dont think i like it very much
2006-03-04 06353, 2006
teleGUISE_
nice its chronological... ill pretty much forget anything pre 1980
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teleGUISE_
crap thats a lot of releases..
2006-03-04 06300, 2006
Shepard
hi wolfsong
2006-03-04 06309, 2006
teleGUISE_
shepard: you mean the jump on irc just to send you nasty comments... or you talking nasty emails too
2006-03-04 06336, 2006
Shepard
mail
2006-03-04 06347, 2006
teleGUISE_
ah... so you get fan mail
2006-03-04 06352, 2006
Shepard
ja!
2006-03-04 06327, 2006
Shepard
the last one was in german actually, else I would have quoted
2006-03-04 06336, 2006
teleGUISE_
inhouseuk: without getting to deep .. curious how you made it.. i assume u didnt build a table of every monday for every month of every year by hand... did u pick a starting point and work from there taking into account leap years?
2006-03-04 06355, 2006
teleGUISE_
what was the jist.. that your a hard headed mean bossy arse who should stick his head in the toilet and flush?
