but you know, its a case for levels of automod privs actually
2006-03-05 06404, 2006
SenRepus
remove all his automod privs accept TRM
2006-03-05 06445, 2006
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chocomo
natta
2006-03-05 06402, 2006
yllona
g'night mo
2006-03-05 06457, 2006
Shepard
night mo
2006-03-05 06434, 2006
SenRepus
natta mo!
2006-03-05 06436, 2006
teleGUISE_ has quit
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teleGUISE_ crinches while looking at the expired open edit backlog since of course the majority is 'add album'
2006-03-05 06408, 2006
yllona
bye all.
2006-03-05 06414, 2006
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teleGUISE_ thinks whoever the 10th person to abstain on an edit is should be forced to make a decision yes or no :)-
2006-03-05 06410, 2006
teleGUISE_
we need to find someone familiar with the Christian genre to make an automod...
2006-03-05 06441, 2006
Shepard goes to bed
2006-03-05 06442, 2006
Shepard
night
2006-03-05 06457, 2006
teleGUISE_
night shepard
2006-03-05 06449, 2006
inhouseuk
teleGUISE_: the trouble with abstains is they are a delayed 'yes' unless somebody votes 'no'
2006-03-05 06415, 2006
teleGUISE_
exactly... so in a week later they are dumped in the db
2006-03-05 06407, 2006
teleGUISE_
not sure how else we could do it though.. wasnt it awhile that those would stay open indefinitely?
2006-03-05 06420, 2006
teleGUISE_
+awhile back
2006-03-05 06454, 2006
teleGUISE_
inhouseuk: out of curiousity do you know why we stopped the asin populate script? was it just prone to errors or figure the manual version was good enough
2006-03-05 06403, 2006
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teleGUISE_
fuchs: during the add edit process hitting return after entering a release date assumes you want to enter another date causing you to have to scroll up to [select a country] to advance. Has this been changed?
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ruaok
teleGUISE_: the script matching was very good, amazon changed it service and the script kept taking longer and longer to complete.
2006-03-05 06443, 2006
ruaok
so, it was deemed that people will just hand maintain the asins...
2006-03-05 06453, 2006
teleGUISE_
huh...that kind of stinks... though I guess if it kept taking your time away from doing other things then its best
2006-03-05 06400, 2006
ruaok
I'm not very sad about it. people generally favored the manual approach.
2006-03-05 06429, 2006
teleGUISE_
i find myself populating many that should be straight forward (ie.. artist name/album title are identical) and have been in the db for years but no asin ..
2006-03-05 06441, 2006
SenRepus
i dont like things happening autoatically unless they are for sure correct
2006-03-05 06422, 2006
teleGUISE_
but like you said if they made matching harder and harder to keep up with then its not worth it.. I dont mind doing the entering for accuracy but on some artists -none- of the albums have any asins and they should
2006-03-05 06414, 2006
teleGUISE_
however ... of course they do now :)-
2006-03-05 06406, 2006
teleGUISE_
ru so did you find out what happened to ll, last night or whatever night it was? Did she go out for drinks?
2006-03-05 06430, 2006
ruaok
hard lock up. that's all I know.
2006-03-05 06436, 2006
ruaok
I suspect a RAID card issue
2006-03-05 06413, 2006
ruaok
lets just say I am not very happy about it.
2006-03-05 06447, 2006
teleGUISE_
hmmm.. so presently you have no way to remotely do a reset?
2006-03-05 06453, 2006
ruaok
not when it hard locks.
2006-03-05 06407, 2006
ruaok
unless you want to buy us a console server. :)
2006-03-05 06415, 2006
Russss
what raid card are you using?
2006-03-05 06426, 2006
ruaok
Adaptec 2010S
2006-03-05 06450, 2006
Russss
IIRC there are two adaptec cards which don't suck. I can't remember which ones.
2006-03-05 06450, 2006
ruaok
kevin said that at Friendster they stopped using that card because of intermittend lock ups
2006-03-05 06410, 2006
ruaok
the other 2010S we have has been flawless for over a year.
2006-03-05 06446, 2006
Russss
we are 100% MegaRAID for SCSI and 3Ware (or software) for SATA. Although MegaRAID has its problems, I've never had to attribute a crash to it
2006-03-05 06429, 2006
ruaok
yeah, three of ours servers have megaraid and I've got a 3ware 9500 for zim when we upgrade it.
2006-03-05 06458, 2006
Russss
actually that's a lie. One of our machines once crashed when we swapped a new drive in.
2006-03-05 06436, 2006
Russss
and on the older versions of the megaraid drivers which had a /proc interface, reading from the interface too frequently caused crashes + data corruption...
2006-03-05 06451, 2006
Russss
that one sucked bigtime
2006-03-05 06402, 2006
ruaok
ick
2006-03-05 06426, 2006
Russss
I wrote a nagios plugin for it, worked fine in testing, put it live on 8 or 10 servers within an hour, 3 of them crashed.
2006-03-05 06455, 2006
ruaok
wow. that sucks
2006-03-05 06421, 2006
Russss
one of those servers was lacking a slave (and we had no current backups), so it caused dataloss...
2006-03-05 06429, 2006
Russss
having said that, we have some 3Ware 9550SX-12 cards which we suspect may be causing intermittent disk issues.
2006-03-05 06440, 2006
Russss
they are painfully new cards though.
2006-03-05 06402, 2006
ruaok
any issues with the 9500S-4LP ?
2006-03-05 06416, 2006
Russss
nope, not that we know of. We've got 2 or 3 of those
2006-03-05 06422, 2006
ruaok
phew.
2006-03-05 06428, 2006
Russss
the problem with the 9550 is that it's running our streaming server
2006-03-05 06440, 2006
Russss
and sometimes everything just blocks for a minute
2006-03-05 06456, 2006
ruaok
not good for 'streaming'
2006-03-05 06409, 2006
Russss
which causes the stream to pause for everyone, 50% of whom subsequently disconnect thinking it's died
2006-03-05 06421, 2006
Russss
but it's amazingly difficult to diagnose
2006-03-05 06451, 2006
Russss
we bought a different NIC for one of the two boxes which is doing this, and that one seems to have problems less frequently...
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Russss
minefield.
2006-03-05 06429, 2006
teleGUISE_
...um console servers can be almost as much $ as the server and I can't say I have one of those lying around.
2006-03-05 06451, 2006
teleGUISE_
doesnt this colo offer apc reboots?
2006-03-05 06457, 2006
teleGUISE_
or is that more $$
2006-03-05 06457, 2006
Russss
in terms of remote admin, I'd recommend a remote power switch firstly
2006-03-05 06414, 2006
Russss
then either a console server or IP KVM
2006-03-05 06418, 2006
ruaok
no such service was mentioned to me
2006-03-05 06436, 2006
teleGUISE_
huh... guess then that means this colo probably doesnt have that then :)-
2006-03-05 06452, 2006
Russss
most colos don't have remote power switching
2006-03-05 06439, 2006
Russss
you tend to only get it if you're renting small amounts of space off an ISP
i know some of the bigger hostes sites have it.. not sure how pricing compares between colo's with and w/o as some offer it as a extra charge or include it depending on the plan
2006-03-05 06448, 2006
Russss
one thing for sure, those APC switches are expensive
2006-03-05 06450, 2006
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Russss
though they're a fairly small part of our overall rack setup costs
2006-03-05 06436, 2006
ruaok
wait... they do have very similar power strips in there.
2006-03-05 06447, 2006
Russss
APC do "dumb" versions too
2006-03-05 06448, 2006
ruaok
with amp readouts and everything. I wonder...
2006-03-05 06453, 2006
ruaok
ah.
2006-03-05 06401, 2006
Russss
and they do versions with metering but not switching
2006-03-05 06403, 2006
teleGUISE_
yea same look not remote
2006-03-05 06417, 2006
teleGUISE_
of course easier for manufacturing
2006-03-05 06438, 2006
Russss
but it's worth asking I suppose.
2006-03-05 06456, 2006
teleGUISE_
true you never know it might be just a small fee
2006-03-05 06415, 2006
teleGUISE_
not as flexible as what a console server would do ... but heck of a lot cheaper
2006-03-05 06437, 2006
Russss
sometimes you can't reboot with a console server though
2006-03-05 06445, 2006
ruaok
Hmmm. the power strips do have ethernet plugs.
2006-03-05 06448, 2006
Russss
if it's locked up hard, then you still need a power switch.
2006-03-05 06453, 2006
ruaok
but I assumed that was for power monitoring.
2006-03-05 06406, 2006
Russss
ruaok: then they might be then. But I think the metered-only versions look the same.
2006-03-05 06418, 2006
ruaok
I'll ask.
2006-03-05 06426, 2006
teleGUISE_
yea.. the ones i have seen have the same look...
2006-03-05 06401, 2006
Russss
hmm, the metered versions only come in zero U format
2006-03-05 06401, 2006
teleGUISE_
actually almost all of them do.. and add metering/remote etc..
2006-03-05 06407, 2006
Russss
so if the power switch is 1U then it's definitely switched
2006-03-05 06429, 2006
ruaok
nope, its a strip along the wall
2006-03-05 06438, 2006
Russss
aha ok, anyone's guess then.
2006-03-05 06409, 2006
teleGUISE_
wonder if they would let you put your own little apc with ethernet port there... probably not
2006-03-05 06428, 2006
Russss
eh, if it fits in a rack they're not usually too fussy.
2006-03-05 06453, 2006
teleGUISE_
could be an option if they dont offer it anyways..
2006-03-05 06418, 2006
Russss
it's cool if they actually meter your usage properly though. When we go too far over our limit, the breaker trips out
2006-03-05 06443, 2006
teleGUISE_
1 of those I have.. but definitely not new enough and commercial enough for me to want to donate...
2006-03-05 06413, 2006
teleGUISE_
cuz if it blew something up i would be banned ;)
2006-03-05 06407, 2006
teleGUISE_
How 'bout using a X-10 Appliance module connected to a phone remote module :) $59 remote reboot
2006-03-05 06409, 2006
lilo
[Global Notice] Hi all. Another note on the DCC exploit....we now have two known ways to avoid the problem. First, as stated before, you can connect to freenode via port 8001 instead of 6667. Second, you can turn off SPI (Stateful Packet Inspection) in the router configuration. Thanks!
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teleGUISE_
didnt think SPI was on by default...
2006-03-05 06427, 2006
teleGUISE_
could see why AMZ ASIN matching would be a challenge.. even AMZ's own search doesn't result in consistent returns...
2006-03-05 06421, 2006
teleGUISE_
you click on the artist name and it pulls up a batch of releases... you search by the same artist including a release not found in that list and you get a whole different group!
2006-03-05 06418, 2006
teleGUISE_
well note entirely different... but you get other releases by the same artist not found in the other search
2006-03-05 06417, 2006
yllona
i think they rely on the CD index included by the label.
2006-03-05 06403, 2006
yllona
ex: all sun ra & his [name] arkestra releases, are under "sun ra"
2006-03-05 06443, 2006
yllona
and there are at least 20 different [name] arkestra's
2006-03-05 06414, 2006
yllona
search "Astro Intergalactic Infinity Arkestra" and it returns a CD for "sun ra" which is correct.
2006-03-05 06443, 2006
teleGUISE_
this case wasnt that complex it was a simple First Last name
2006-03-05 06425, 2006
yllona
again, it has to do with label/distibutor submisison. and they are alway scorrect.
2006-03-05 06435, 2006
yllona
*aren't always crrect
2006-03-05 06454, 2006
teleGUISE_
i believe it cookies your results.. cuz now it put the missing album at the second spot on a lookup by artist name
2006-03-05 06402, 2006
yllona
it's matching against your previous searches / recommendations / purchases if you're logged in.
2006-03-05 06419, 2006
yllona
log out, then see waht happens
2006-03-05 06411, 2006
mustaqil_
yllona, has #audioscrobbler broke on you?
2006-03-05 06419, 2006
yllona
i'm okay in AS
2006-03-05 06439, 2006
mustaqil_
Peculiar
2006-03-05 06452, 2006
mustaqil_
My connection isn't finding it's way to Phasenet at all
2006-03-05 06456, 2006
mustaqil_ does a tracert
2006-03-05 06428, 2006
mustaqil_
Aha, something is indeed broken on the way to Phasenet
