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      • VxJasonxV
        I don't suppose anybody in here is a synthpop/a different drum label fan, are they?

        • 2006-03-09 06820, 2006

      • SenRepus
        i like freezepop

        • 2006-03-09 06829, 2006

      • rowaasr13
        Well, I do listen to synthpop sometimes.

        • 2006-03-09 06856, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        I'm trying to find an artist, because I'm hesitant to add them

        • 2006-03-09 06827, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        On the 'The Fixx / An Electronic Tribute' album. There's an artist (who RULES by the way) named 'Kiss the Star' and so far as I can figure out, they're exlusive to the tribute CD

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      • VxJasonxV
        i.e. a tribute band for a tribute CD

        • 2006-03-09 06853, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        Kiss the Star has no amazon matches, no discogs matches, no matches on A.D.D.'s website other than their track on this album

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      • chocomo
        no problem that

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      • Mudcrow
        Kiss The Star was born in April 2002 by combining the vocal talents of Megan Erben (formerly of Faith Assembly) and Craig Smidt's (Cats Last Dance) song writing craftsmanship. The band was created from the New Wave/Synthpop genre and is influenced by both the Goth and Electronic/Industrial genres. In January of 2004 Jeff Harper (Intervox) joined Kiss the Star on keyboards and programming.....

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      • Mudcrow
        ...With Megan's edgy vocals and Jeff's dark aura backed by an updated sound, Kiss The Star has put the "pop" back into the scene.

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      • Mudcrow
        :p

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      • chocomo
        that's alot of info mud

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      • chocomo
        :p

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      • VxJasonxV
        Where'd you find that Mudcrow ?

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      • Mudcrow
        http://www.fixxtribute.com/artists.html

        • 2006-03-09 06809, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        ...

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      • VxJasonxV
        bahahahaha

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      • VxJasonxV
        why oh why didn't I do that in the first place

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      • VxJasonxV
        well, regardless, they still have no releases

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      • chocomo
        so?

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      • VxJasonxV
        'cept this song (Secret Separation)

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      • VxJasonxV
        so I guess I'm adding them

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      • chocomo
        do you *know* how many artists we have that only have a VA album to theit name=

        • 2006-03-09 06854, 2006

      • chocomo
        +

        • 2006-03-09 06801, 2006

      • chocomo
        atleast you're trying to research

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      • GURT
        http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.musicbrain…

        • 2006-03-09 06821, 2006

      • GURT
        it's the mailing list with gravatars!

        • 2006-03-09 06822, 2006

      • Mudcrow
        we have artists with no releases, but are just used for artist relationships

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      • Shepard just added some background vocal singers

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      • VxJasonxV
        gravatars suck. favatars forever

        • 2006-03-09 06824, 2006

      • Mudcrow
        aviators fly

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      • VxJasonxV
        heh

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      • GURT
        haha

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      • GURT
        you have to have a website for favatars though

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      • GURT
        don't you?

        • 2006-03-09 06831, 2006

      • Shepard
        luks?

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      • ojnkpjg
        i think freezepop is from around here (boston)

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      • ojnkpjg
        i don't like them much

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      • ojnkpjg
        but i have a few friends who do

        • 2006-03-09 06842, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        GURT, yeah, you do. it goes to your favicon.ico

        • 2006-03-09 06815, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        though, you don't HAVE to have a website. like a subdomain with little freespace, or even livejournal can give you the ability to have a favicon

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      • Jetpack
        favicons are cool

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      • VxJasonxV
        uhhhhh

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      • VxJasonxV
        is the time (track length) attribute locked or something?

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      • VxJasonxV
        indeed it is

        • 2006-03-09 06838, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        readonly is set

        • 2006-03-09 06851, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        how am I supposed to submit a new track length mod?

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      • ojnkpjg
        it's locked on albums with a discid

        • 2006-03-09 06812, 2006

      • WolfsongOpera
        has anyone seen ruaok lately?

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      • WolfsongOpera
        .

        • 2006-03-09 06838, 2006

      • WolfsongOpera
        anyone polish?

        • 2006-03-09 06817, 2006

      • chocomo rollt sich faul ins bett

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      • Shepard has quit

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      • Shepard`
        Shepard` is now known as Shepard

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      • fuchs
        n8 mo

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      • ue\sleep\ has quit

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      • VxJasonxV
        Is there any way to get picard to auto group incoming files into the folders they would already be in?

        • 2006-03-09 06822, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        That would make things SOOOOOO much easier

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      • WolfsongOpera
        nope

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      • WolfsongOpera
        might want to request it as an enhancement

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      • VxJasonxV
        Will do

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      • mudcrow_
        mudcrow_ is now known as Mudcrow

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      • VxJasonxV
        hmmm

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      • VxJasonxV
        is the old musicbrainz tagger 'secretly' compatible with flac files?

        • 2006-03-09 06857, 2006

      • WolfsongOpera
        don't think so

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      • WolfsongOpera
        but picard is

        • 2006-03-09 06820, 2006

      • ojnkpjg
        i had been using the old tagger to tag flac for a long time

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      • ojnkpjg
        as long as i can remember, really

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      • VxJasonxV
        yeah

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      • VxJasonxV
        I've started with my FLAC collection

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      • VxJasonxV
        it works, though I keep getting ntdll.dll errors

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      • ojnkpjg
        weird

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      • ojnkpjg
        i don't remember having problems

        • 2006-03-09 06815, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        but yeah, the original tagger works on flac

        • 2006-03-09 06819, 2006

      • ojnkpjg
        i've been using picard since 0.5, though

        • 2006-03-09 06822, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        and OGG Vorbis normal IIRC

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      • VxJasonxV
        no APE though (good riddance)

        • 2006-03-09 06837, 2006

      • ojnkpjg
        i've never had any reason to use ape

        • 2006-03-09 06856, 2006

      • VxJasonxV
        I don't know why I don't just transcode my album or two from ape to flac

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      • Shepard fixes AR grammar

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      • fuchs
        since when do you know grammar?

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      • tga
        howdy folks

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      • fuchs
        hi tga

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      • tga
        I'd like to identify given clips in an audio stream

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      • tga
        given variations in volume and all I can't just look for identical data

        • 2006-03-09 06828, 2006

      • tga
        would libmusicbrainz be of any help?

        • 2006-03-09 06805, 2006

      • fuchs
        not really

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      • tga
        what would then?

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      • fuchs
        no idea

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      • fuchs
        musicbrainz current fingerprinting system only works with complete files

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      • fuchs
        and i don't know any system that would allow the identification of arbitrary sound snippets

        • 2006-03-09 06839, 2006

      • yllona
        there's some research stuff at USC that is designed to identify music clips

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      • yllona
        i think it's windows only, and is available for download, source code too (i think). let me llok

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      • yllona
        tga: here's one http://imsc.usc.edu/research/project/crirmusic/in…

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      • yllona
        tga: although i'd poke around on the entire imsc.usc.edu site....

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      • tga
        interesting, thanks for the tip

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      • yllona
        welcome

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      • yllona
        some of these projects are multi-year heavily funded research projects. I've found the staff to be really helpful with questions/queries though.

        • 2006-03-09 06844, 2006

      • fuchs
        Fraunhofer has such a system running, but it's not available for end users (meaning they probably just couldn't afford to buy a license) ;)

        • 2006-03-09 06805, 2006

      • yllona
        fraunhofer has good stuff too, but it is expensive. the IMSC is mostly National Science Foundation (NSF), and other gov't agencies. so as long it's not targeted towards a specific defense/military application, access is reasonable

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      • yllona
        reasonable == often free

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      • yllona
        there's other, similar projects at Univ. of Colorado. let me see if i can find them

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      • Jetpack
        there are a couple of servies out there that identify music snippets

        • 2006-03-09 06829, 2006

      • tga
        I'd like to do something slightly different - find specific short clips in a live stream

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      • tga
        it looks like it's somewhat more complicated than I first assumed

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      • yllona
        tga: that's a huge area of research here, gov't research mostly (for obvious reasons)

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      • yllona
        tga: many of the sites have been pulled off the web (after 9/11). here's some work you may interesting at stanford: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/

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      • yllona
        here's the software: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/

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      • yllona
        have fun! later folks

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      • futurist
        do we have a way to recording the folowing data: Composer's Op. number or BWV number etc., which edition of the work this is, date of publication, date of premiere, date (range) of composition ??

        • 2006-03-09 06819, 2006

      • futurist
        not to mention, how do we distinuish the orginal release date of an album from the date of the CD release, etc?

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      • ojnkpjg
        Op and BWV are part of the title for classical works

        • 2006-03-09 06829, 2006

      • ojnkpjg
        other info has to go in an annotation

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      • futurist
        but i need to be able to *sort* by all these figures :(

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      • futurist
        (that's their chief usefulness)

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      • ojnkpjg
        i guess you're out of luck unless you feel like writing some kind of parser

        • 2006-03-09 06813, 2006

      • futurist
        not really, i can enter the info manually for the tracks that matter to me personally if only the fields are available

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      • futurist
        we'll have to handle this data eventually

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      • futurist
        ojnkpjg what's better is if we have a system to enter lists of works for composers

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      • futurist
        complete with publication dates etc.

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      • futurist
        and then have players able to lookup and sort this info based on the title/catalogue number

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      • ojnkpjg
        that'd require a totally different database structure

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      • futurist
        well no, a 2nd separate database i suppose

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      • futurist
        i don't really know much about databases

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      • futurist knows more about classical music, that is :-)

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      • ojnkpjg
        well, there is a classical style guide wiki page

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      • ojnkpjg
        maybe you could post your ideas somewhere there

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      • futurist
        yeah ok, i'm just asking because i don't realy understand this AR stuff