the AR link points to the MusicMoz entry, which doesn't contain any direct data and the links provided don't go to any valid pages
2006-03-29 08822, 2006
inhouseuk
should we keep musicmoz links where they aren't giving any data of value?
2006-03-29 08823, 2006
Shepard
it was the server ghost!
2006-03-29 08805, 2006
yllona
can you have both the ARs "was member of" and "did vocal support for"?
2006-03-29 08829, 2006
yllona
or do i need yo use "performs vocal" on each track?
2006-03-29 08835, 2006
ruaok
yllona: mo was asking for that the other day, but didn't get much in the way of support...
2006-03-29 08855, 2006
yllona
ah, i missed it.
2006-03-29 08812, 2006
yllona
wasn't here, or i would have responded
2006-03-29 08802, 2006
Shepard
you can link vocal performance to a whole album
2006-03-29 08808, 2006
Shepard
what's the problem?
2006-03-29 08805, 2006
Mudcrow_ joined the channel
2006-03-29 08805, 2006
yllona
no problem, just a question. can i have two relationships at teh album level for chaka khan: "member of" and "performs vocal support"
2006-03-29 08829, 2006
inhouseuk
member of would be at the artist level
2006-03-29 08834, 2006
Shepard
there is neither "member of" nor "support" at the album level
2006-03-29 08839, 2006
yllona
mo: what's bogus about the name "Echoes of an Era"
2006-03-29 08850, 2006
Shepard
yllona: the sortname was wrong
2006-03-29 08814, 2006
yllona
sheep: sorry, i meant group/band level
2006-03-29 08838, 2006
Shepard
I'm not listening to that nick :)
2006-03-29 08840, 2006
yllona
ah the sort name, got it.
2006-03-29 08811, 2006
Shepard
"support" is a person--person relationship
2006-03-29 08817, 2006
Shepard
but well, read the docs
2006-03-29 08822, 2006
yllona
shep: sorry again, need to switch to speech-to-text, having bad day with typing
2006-03-29 08822, 2006
yllona
shep: okay will do, this is my first time seeing the AR, bee away for a bit
2006-03-29 08834, 2006
Shepard
jup it's not so old
2006-03-29 08814, 2006
yllona
okay shep, one more question. according to the docs is should use collaboration for this relationship, because there's only one album released -- except they've performed together live, and on other albums released under other names
2006-03-29 08849, 2006
yllona
so is it still a collaboration? or" member of"
2006-03-29 08851, 2006
Shepard
can't tell, don't know the case
2006-03-29 08829, 2006
yllona
okay.
2006-03-29 08806, 2006
yllona
i'll use collab, until some "live" bootlegs show up on MB
2006-03-29 08805, 2006
Shepard
is it for the Echos of an Era?
2006-03-29 08810, 2006
yllona
yes.
2006-03-29 08819, 2006
Shepard
who collaborated there?
2006-03-29 08856, 2006
yllona
chaka kahn, stanley clarke, chick corea, freddie hubbard, joe henderson, lennie white
2006-03-29 08831, 2006
yllona
it's basically "return to forever" with chaka khan on vocals and joe henderson on sax.
2006-03-29 08845, 2006
Shepard
sounds ok
2006-03-29 08851, 2006
yllona
*lenny white
2006-03-29 08848, 2006
yllona
the relationship or the album? :) the album is *really* good
2006-03-29 08807, 2006
Mudcrow has quit
2006-03-29 08815, 2006
Shepard
the relationship
2006-03-29 08822, 2006
yllona
'k
2006-03-29 08827, 2006
yllona
but then there's a collab for Rufus & chaka khan and they recorded multiple albums... so what's the deal?
well if it's called like that then it's a collaboration
2006-03-29 08801, 2006
yllona
i'd say she was a member, was also "rufus featuring chaka kahn"
2006-03-29 08804, 2006
Shepard
our old definition was that it's only a collaboration if they worked together for a longer time, but that's what changed with SG5DR
2006-03-29 08818, 2006
saxpoet
I believe that they are already i the database as a group ... they recorded under the dual name for many years
2006-03-29 08818, 2006
yllona
but i'll go with collb, if that's the official deal.
2006-03-29 08849, 2006
yllona
saxpoet: yep, like 10-12 years (or more).
2006-03-29 08855, 2006
saxpoet
kinda like crosby stills nash & young
2006-03-29 08820, 2006
saxpoet
or hamilton, joe frank, and reynolds
2006-03-29 08835, 2006
yllona
yes, then rufus had 5 or six albums without chaka too.
2006-03-29 08816, 2006
yllona
i think the "official" breakup was '83, only to record together again :)
2006-03-29 08852, 2006
saxpoet
those memphis folks never *really* break up :)
2006-03-29 08837, 2006
langseth has left the channel
2006-03-29 08816, 2006
saxpoet
I have some more server weirdness to report today ... using both MSIE and Netscape
2006-03-29 08801, 2006
saxpoet
I accomplished a freedb import earlier today ... and now every time I start another, no matter what i enter into the field for caategory and number, the ld one pops up. so I continued and abandoned when given the opportunity, but it still happens
2006-03-29 08850, 2006
inhouseuk
that sounds like browser auto completion
2006-03-29 08840, 2006
saxpoet
two different browsers
2006-03-29 08846, 2006
saxpoet
same results
2006-03-29 08826, 2006
inhouseuk
do you mean that even if you enter a different cat/id, the same album comes up?
2006-03-29 08830, 2006
saxpoet
yes
2006-03-29 08841, 2006
saxpoet
so I closed netscape and went to MSIE to make sure that autocomplete of a hung cookie was not the problem... and got the same result
2006-03-29 08847, 2006
inhouseuk
Hmm, strange. Do you have a proxy set on the browsers?
2006-03-29 08809, 2006
saxpoet
yes ... think it is the problem?
2006-03-29 08829, 2006
saxpoet
I installed an accellerator proxy a week or so ago
2006-03-29 08851, 2006
inhouseuk
possibly, can you take out the proxy entry and try again
2006-03-29 08821, 2006
saxpoet
you guys are good! I stopped the proxy and the import started with no problem!!
2006-03-29 08829, 2006
inhouseuk
:)
2006-03-29 08859, 2006
saxpoet
that wazs probably the source of my login problem yesterday too
2006-03-29 08805, 2006
inhouseuk has spent too many years in IT support!
2006-03-29 08802, 2006
saxpoet
ty again ...
2006-03-29 08823, 2006
yllona
dies anyone know the german pop band VSOP? (not to be confused with the legendary jazz band V.S.O.P)
2006-03-29 08839, 2006
ruaok
FUCK!
2006-03-29 08857, 2006
ruaok
The $500 donation we got was probably fraudulent. Crap. Bummer. :-(
2006-03-29 08813, 2006
djce
:-(
2006-03-29 08823, 2006
Shepard
:O
2006-03-29 08841, 2006
ruaok
the bank balance was looking all nice and happy after that. oh well.
2006-03-29 08847, 2006
ruaok
wankers all around the planet.
2006-03-29 08829, 2006
inhouseuk
I could understand somebody using a paypal account fraudulently to purchase goods or services. But, donating to a non-profit?
2006-03-29 08854, 2006
LTjake has quit
2006-03-29 08817, 2006
inhouseuk
unless it was for revenge to empty the real holders account
2006-03-29 08833, 2006
djce
Maybe the "nag" *really* annoyed them :-)
2006-03-29 08844, 2006
ruaok
inhouseuk: agreed. its very silly.
2006-03-29 08815, 2006
ruaok
last time someone disputed a $5 donation, I spent a bunch of time stating my side of the case.
2006-03-29 08830, 2006
ruaok
then paypal told me fuck you and charged me a $10 resolution fee on top of that.
2006-03-29 08846, 2006
ruaok
if there was an alternative to paypal, I'd take it in a second.
