I imagine it would depend on how long it will take to get enough PUIDs into the DB to supplant TRMs, which would depend on how easy it's made to add PUIDs to the DB, ...
Nyght
MartinRudat: I would have to be able to take the alternately attached puid (that music iP attaches to the song) and be able to put those in without having to reanalyze
g0llum
quick question:
Nyght
I could have a good 20,000 puid's up in a very short time. ;)
g0llum thinks the link color on mb.org is too similar to the regular text
MartinRudat blinks, and wonders why the link Added_some is in http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/JapaneseArtists ... nothing else wants Added_some as a page (as far as WantedPages is concerned)...
g0llum
what do you think?
MartinRudat
I'd un-link it, but for some reason my browser toasts japanese text...
yalaforge
g0llum: on my laptop screen they are *very* similar
Nyght
which link color g0llum?
MartinRudat
hmm... well, yes, and well, no...
yes, it's similar to the main text colour, but no, it would probably be distracting if it's too di-similar to the main text colour...
yalaforge
other colours on MB are almost impossible to differentiate on cheap TFTs, too. like the 'pending moderation' colour, which is pretty much invisible
g0llum
Nyght: of all the links
MartinRudat
s/i-/is-/
g0llum
i'm trying to put some more documentation links into the page texts
but it won't help if you don't even notice that these are links :-)
MartinRudat
...theme/skin? =)
g0llum
the easiest way would be to underline them
but that goes not well with the design
yalaforge
at least it would be the traditional way for displaying links
Nyght
WEll it looks like there was a decent amount of thought for not too high contrasting colors the pages aren't hard on the eyes, but the only place I have difficulty is on the left column. The grey and "purplish" are sometimes difficult to differentiate, but you wouldn't want to make it too extreme because garish and glare would make it
yalaforge doesn't care, but people will complain if you change it ;-)
MartinRudat
for the main text, I think that you could make the link colour darker, or more saturated, but that might end up causing trouble for people who are colourblind...
Nyght
difficult to continue to work for as long as some people do look at these colors. :D
MartinRudat
huh. the links in the sidebar _are_ different colours, I've never noticed...
Nyght
Yes they are Martin :)
MartinRudat goes to crank up the font-size... the font I'm using seems to be eating underscores...
yalaforge likes the new menu a lot better than the old sidebar
yalaforge
but the new sidebar, hmm, well ... ;-)
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MartinRudat
hmm... do you have stats for which links people use the most often? I find myself using the quicksearch boxes a lot, and my profile page to get to my list of moderations (to find that release that started all this nonsense)...
yalaforge
nope, although it would be interesting
yalaforge once suggested to analyze the server logs to find out which artists are the most popular ones etc., but nobody seemed to be interested in that
MartinRudat
really? it doesn't seem (on the surface of things) to be too hard a thing to do... I know that lookup counts are computed for some record types already...
Nyght
I use the profile a lot, wiki intermittently and ...
old search
yalaforge
MartinRudat: I even volunteered to write the script, but still
g0llum
yalaforge: any ideas for better sidebar features? :-)
yalaforge
yeah, actually
:-)
MartinRudat
I'd love a link to the releases I've added recently, I seem to go profile -> moderations -> page, page, page -> disc a lot...
yalaforge
g0llum: move the login link to the top banner (right upper corner)
then I can get rid of the sidebar :-)
Nyght
Yeah same here Martin, but others have the searching down to a science, so I think that's just lack of knowledge with advance search. ;)
g0llum
yalaforge: yeah ;)
but the sponsors have to go somewhere it seems
because the userpref is ignored :P
yalaforge
well, I have no problem as long as I can click the 'hide' link
g0llum
the reasons i have the sidebar shown: resolution big enough / the search box :)
yalaforge
yeah.
MartinRudat
Nyght: it's not so much searching, but getting back to the release I just added... I suppose I should just keep a tab open with the release in it... and every track and artist I'm tring to add relationships between too...
g0llum
but since ppl complained about 800x600 resolution...
Nyght
That's what I do Martin. ;) It's so much easier than back back back. ;)
yalaforge
seriously, I think the login link should be somewhere else
yalaforge didn't find it at first :-)
MartinRudat
Nyght: but I don't have a 5000-pixel wide monitor! =)
Nyght
tabs and 1280 by 1024, it does work. ;)
yalaforge
it used to be on the landmarks bar, but it doesn't belong there either. after all it doesn't lead to a part of the site
yalaforge is trying to find a site that does it well
Nyght
course then you miss little things like colons and teleGUISE jumps on you for double colons ;)
yalaforge should probably stop complaining as he doesn't want to implement it
Or maybe he just likes pickin on me. :D
MartinRudat
Nyght: I'm talking about the tabs scrolling about three screen for the number of tabs I'd need to have open... =)
Nyght
LOL! Better use of your release and back works too!
I know when I was doing the AR's for .... Reinhold's tribute album I was doing to back's to shift the AR, it worked really well!
MartinRudat
I'd much rather have ARs as batch operations, but that's work...
Nyght
two back pages too.
MartinRudat
if I had more ARs to do, I'd start considering writing a script to do all the clicking for me...
Nyght
after I applied the mod, I would click back to where you could choose the AR and go on;.. err.. no, that was Jack of All Trades. Sorry, where I had a computer, producer etc all for the same track
yalaforge: that's usually where login is in a lot of places
g0llum
yup
yalaforge likes it and people seem to find the link, unlike the current solution
but show it to nikki_ and she'll complain about the font size
yalaforge
I'll take care of that :-)
g0llum
it only looks good if you use small fonts for these kinds of thingies :)
ojnkpjg
i like the way it renders in firefox a lot
i think it looks much better than it did a few months ago
g0llum
ojnkpjg: which site are you talking about?
eclipse is not a site i visit too often
MartinRudat grumps about sites that use flyspeck 3... then again, I've set my font-size to 10pt or so...
ojnkpjg
mb
i wasn't paying attention to conversation earlier, if you were talking about something else
yalaforge
heh, in fact I know now who could implement it ;-)
MartinRudat
personally, I think wikipedia's sidebar looks nice, though I think the second section should be moved to the top of the sidebar...
ojnkpjg
anyone played with plone much?
MartinRudat
plone? no, it rings a bell, though...
yalaforge
some content management system. never used it
there are so many these days, difficult to keep track
g0llum
ojnkpjg: thanks, i appreciate it :)
MartinRudat was in charge of the website for a school project, I just stuck a password-protected wiki up... I don't know why I did, no-one seemed to edit it but me... =)
ojnkpjg
plone is a CMS on top of zope
it makes my head hurt
luks
that happens with all open-source CMSes :)
Nyght hides during the way over technical stuff
Nyght
;)
MartinRudat shakes a unix manual at Nyght, ooga booga! =)
mustaqila cringes as MartinRudat just reminded him of Hasselhoff's Hooked on a Feeling...
MartinRudat
David Hasselhoff of Knight Rider and Babe^H^Hywatch fame?
mustaqila: what, sorta like Barry Mannilow, only with less ability to sing?
mustaqila
Hahah
MartinRudat
I was under the impression that a complete unix manual would be hard to misplace... kinda like misplaceing your dead-tree version of the Encyclopedia Britannica...
Nyght
and talk about a cheesy video!
of course, I'm not cringing from his voice.. so..
yalaforge
yay! 7th edition, vol. 1. from january 1979 :-)
MartinRudat
that's older than I am.
yalaforge
same here. but not much :-(
MartinRudat
...though not more than a couple of months.
ojnkpjg
i noticed a second edition of advanced programming in the unix environment was released
Knio1 has quit
i was really hoping for that for a long time
Nyght makes no comment oin age
then stevens drowned
i figured that was the end of that
yalaforge has the old apue. great book
yes
i think i have all of stevens' books except tcpip illustrated vol 3
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and my copy of 1 has been on load now for a couple of years
er, loan
yalaforge read TCP/IP illustrated 1 a few years ago