mustaqila pats mudcrow on the back for his valiant effort to defend MB in the last.fm forums
2006-05-04 12424, 2006
lauri
me either, apparently my teenager does, since I came across it in the first place while noodling through her mp3's
2006-05-04 12433, 2006
lauri
I'll ask her
2006-05-04 12448, 2006
lauri
if I ever see her :)
2006-05-04 12414, 2006
mudcrow
blah. muz. talk about jumping down my throat just because I gave an answer they didnt like
2006-05-04 12430, 2006
mustaqila
Nah, some people are plain retarded and stubborn
2006-05-04 12433, 2006
mustaqila
I come across it far too often
2006-05-04 12418, 2006
mudcrow
it just bugs me seeing people sit on their arses and bitch about last.fm and/or MB and not do a thing to help improve either
2006-05-04 12428, 2006
ojnkpjg
that's what people do
2006-05-04 12413, 2006
mustaqila
"rawr I don't like it. I'm right because it fits only me in my context. I don't care for anyone else or the greater good. I have a rusty rod up my arse"
2006-05-04 12415, 2006
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ojnkpjg
i try not to complain about things sucking unless i plan to either fix it or write something better
2006-05-04 12440, 2006
ojnkpjg
or at least try
2006-05-04 12432, 2006
mudcrow
i'll complain if i'm not happy, but I will try to suggest ways to improve things, or find out how I can help improve things.
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lauri
not everyone has the energy
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mustaqila
More so people just can't be arsed
2006-05-04 12432, 2006
ojnkpjg
most people doing the complaining lack the either the ability to fix what they're compaining about, or the inclination to do so, or both
2006-05-04 12447, 2006
mudcrow
pisses me off that most of the people complaining that MB is crap cos it doesnt tag their files *their* correct way are usually the same people complaining that last.fm charts are crap cos they are filled with bogus entries.
2006-05-04 12457, 2006
lauri
I just try to point out to them what they gain by conforming, rather than what they lose by doing so
2006-05-04 12458, 2006
ojnkpjg
hehe
2006-05-04 12429, 2006
mustaqila
mudcrow, and that's specifically why I'm not replying in that thread
2006-05-04 12432, 2006
ojnkpjg
what are they complaining about, specifically?
2006-05-04 12435, 2006
lauri
he has a point, there is an id3 tag for disc numbers, it's one of the things that this infamous taggerscript could probably fix
2006-05-04 12453, 2006
ojnkpjg
jesus, you could write a 30 line perl script to fix that kind of stuff
2006-05-04 12453, 2006
mustaqila
I'd rather spend my time answering/actually solving user's problems or cleaning up the wikis rather than debating with someone who's stubborn
2006-05-04 12409, 2006
lauri
but telling people how much more useful last.fm becomes to them if their data conforms, and how much more useful their data is to everyone else, works better, in my experience
2006-05-04 12413, 2006
Nyght
timo-: are you present?
2006-05-04 12410, 2006
lauri
if all their last.fm recommendations are only coming from the small subset of people who mistag their tracks identically, those recommendations are going to be very skewed, and the more the rest of us are playing along, the more skewed they get
2006-05-04 12452, 2006
lauri
they are posting about it on the last.fm forum after all, they must be interested in these things
2006-05-04 12445, 2006
lauri
(on jenna g: daughter says "I dunno, someone on IRC sent it to me, it's crap"... so that's all I know now too :)
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ojnkpjg
last.fm collects mb track ids, doesn't it?
2006-05-04 12447, 2006
mudcrow
not sure about that, it seems most of the people in "Get your damn tags right" group dont actually want to use the correct tags either, most seem to think that *their* way of tagging is correct and everyone else is wrong
2006-05-04 12423, 2006
mudcrow
yes ojnkpjp. if you use a player that submits mbids
Okay, I think I've spotted yet another strange bug.. can I get some votes on this, just to see if it goes to the artist that's been created for it, or if it fails dependency like I'm almost positive is going to happen? http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4723592
2006-05-04 12415, 2006
mustaqila
The funniest one was someone going "RAWR AMG IS RITE11ejefjw"
2006-05-04 12421, 2006
mustaqila can't find it now though :(
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Nyght
hello yalaforge and dmppanda
2006-05-04 12420, 2006
yalaforge
hey
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dmppanda
hi people:)
2006-05-04 12444, 2006
dmppanda
Nyght: need help. I think I made a bad mistake. I asked for merge here
2006-05-04 12459, 2006
Nyght
dmppanda: I'll help if I can. ;)
2006-05-04 12402, 2006
lauri
mudcrow: and I consistently make the same arguments in there too
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Nyght
but I need the link to the mod to check it out. ;)