heh, yeah, seeing that track listing, i have to wonder if half eddie meduza's songs arent covers of kevin wilson ones
2006-05-07 12709, 2006
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Shepard`
Shepard` is now known as Shepard
2006-05-07 12733, 2006
teleGUISE
from the sounds of it then i'm not even sure musik should be in there as from looking at the other titles they use the attribute (sketch) and being on an audio media of course it would be music sketch, no? - http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=203…
2006-05-07 12738, 2006
Nyght
btw... I hit a real nasty snag last night as I was doing Disney.. can anyone take a quick glance at this and tell me if I chose the "right" thing to do?
nechto13 chuckles cause he expects Nyght to go into her usual composer/lyricist rant :P
2006-05-07 12707, 2006
Nyght
nope, that's one of the things that "bothered' me.. because it's not obvious how much Xavier wrote, if it was just lyrics, or if it was both.
2006-05-07 12708, 2006
nikki_
I don't really care, it's just that I was told to just use the composer
2006-05-07 12709, 2006
teleGUISE notices lauri isn't subscribed to Artist RowId: 124746 and see it is a mess and could use some clean up :)
2006-05-07 12725, 2006
nikki_
and if nyght's doing the opposite, we're going to end up with a big mess.
2006-05-07 12730, 2006
Nyght
nechto13: Just becuase I feel a lyracist should be credited, doesn't mean I will "break" style to do it.
2006-05-07 12717, 2006
nikki_ is adding everything in relationships anyway ;)
2006-05-07 12720, 2006
Shepard
they can be credited by AR
2006-05-07 12746, 2006
teleGUISE
Artist RowId: 124746 is aka Kevin Bloody Wilson if you haven't figured that out or even cared too ;)
2006-05-07 12752, 2006
Nyght
Yes, but Disney is messy, half the time they credit both, half the time they credit music/yada lyrics/yada
2006-05-07 12753, 2006
nikki_
then if someone wants to credit it to "some weird guy" they can do
2006-05-07 12753, 2006
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Nyght
and the credits for that album.. are horrid!
2006-05-07 12729, 2006
nechto13 was teasing
2006-05-07 12733, 2006
nikki_
I guess I prefer just the composer to avoid zillions of collaboration artists, buttt, like I said, I don't care!
2006-05-07 12705, 2006
nechto13
i think the album should be under composer, but i don't know how dialog is handled in MB
2006-05-07 12723, 2006
Nyght
nechto13: i will rant, but that doesn't mean I wont do what's expected. I would have hoped my proposal had come to more interest.
2006-05-07 12754, 2006
lauri notes lauri isnt my mb username :)
2006-05-07 12706, 2006
Nyght
that's sorta the fight.. by composer it could theoretically (with dialog) be Walt Disney and Bruns, with a potential of Xavier
2006-05-07 12748, 2006
Nyght
But, by technical merit, it's considered brun was the composer?
2006-05-07 12755, 2006
Nyght
and xavier was lyrics?
2006-05-07 12707, 2006
lauri
teleGUISE: and since i am now older than 14, i dont find kevin very funny anymore :)
2006-05-07 12739, 2006
nechto13
Nyght: i don't know if you realize but the proposal creates as much problems(if not more) as it solves, unless you are proposing having special guidelines for Disney soundtracks and then you entering shaky ground
2006-05-07 12739, 2006
Nyght
This is why I am asking.. I want it where it should go, and I don't want to look at it again, honestly!
2006-05-07 12751, 2006
teleGUISE
lauri: actually i didn't look for you, i just looked under subscribers to Kevin and saw there were 0 making it obvious :) Also was purely a joke.. though feel free to correct the data of course ;)
2006-05-07 12757, 2006
lauri
lol
2006-05-07 12715, 2006
Nyght
no actually, I was trying to figure out what would work for the whole of the mess of soundtracks. (Someone else said it was similar to classical.)
2006-05-07 12728, 2006
lauri
i would, but i really dont know that much about him, other than the boys used to think it was hilarious to bring tapes of his shows on dates when i was a teenager
2006-05-07 12739, 2006
lauri
probably why i am now on the other side of the world
2006-05-07 12756, 2006
teleGUISE
I guess not being Aussie i don't know where to look either.. Ive always found that even the Aussie released versions of popular VA Comps are harder to find information on then your more mainstream US & UK version .. Sometimes even DE versions seem easier to locate
2006-05-07 12704, 2006
Nyght
because it's borked (to use tele's word) in the effect of as soon as you veer into the "rock" world.. you will get major complaints, but, it "was" used on a soundtrack.. where does it break from soundtrack to poetic cover?
2006-05-07 12716, 2006
lauri
his stuff has never been released on any big label either
2006-05-07 12736, 2006
lauri
and most of it was on cassettes, that i ever saw
2006-05-07 12702, 2006
lauri
heck, he wasnt even allowed on mainstream radio
2006-05-07 12746, 2006
teleGUISE
ah.. taking a quick peak.. AMZ UK appears to have 17 (possible entries) of some sort
2006-05-07 12758, 2006
nechto13
Nyght: well unless you are planning to change existing tracks credited to composers to composers and lyricists i wouldn't think the change to soundtrack guideline would be a good solution. and it's entirely possible that it was i who said that currently soundtracks and classical are handled similarly. i.e. artist is the composer not the performer
2006-05-07 12728, 2006
nechto13
and just the composer, without lyricist
2006-05-07 12735, 2006
lauri dreams of the day we have a composer field and a lyricist field and a performers field and all this is a no-brainer
2006-05-07 12738, 2006
teleGUISE
so maybe it wouldn't be that bad to fix a few... though not sure I could determine the release date for sure being as it's listed as an Aussie import
2006-05-07 12753, 2006
lauri
or at least, some way to get that all into the title and let the tagger sort it out :)
2006-05-07 12744, 2006
Nyght
nechto13: my proposal didn't even touch lyricists as I recall. (unless it was as a potential add) More, it had to deal with "performer" and VA, under composer
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teleGUISE
letting the tagger sort what everyone "feels" should be in the title would cause the poor tagger to explode ;)
2006-05-07 12727, 2006
Nyght
No, that was said in the mailing list.
2006-05-07 12706, 2006
Nyght
in fact, I got in a "fight" with g0llum about one of the Sherman brothers not being included on It's a Small World because the sheet music didn't mention him.
2006-05-07 12722, 2006
lauri
for a start teleGUISE, i suspect nearly all of those are live (i am not sure i ever heard anything he did that wasnt recorded at a live show)
2006-05-07 12746, 2006
lauri
Nyght: pfft, they are picky around here, teleGUISE is always telling me off for not adding asins :)
2006-05-07 12747, 2006
teleGUISE
lauri: thanks, that's good to know if I dive in
2006-05-07 12700, 2006
Nyght
For instance, there's a lot of Elton John and Tim Rice. In the credits I read last night, those are all wrong. It's just Elton John. (I put it as Elton John.)
2006-05-07 12733, 2006
teleGUISE
what? who is the person behind aka lauri she hides her ip behind a personal domain name
2006-05-07 12736, 2006
lauri
lol
2006-05-07 12758, 2006
Nyght
lauri, it's Disney's bad credits in some instance.. and my belief that sheet music was better at getting that information...
2006-05-07 12717, 2006
Nyght
I don't know.. there's just not enough facts to go off of. At the moment I'm going by liner notes rule all around as best as I can.
nechto13 wonders if it will be necessary at some point to search for every disney track on compilations and make them all uniform in some manner, as long as they aren't covers
2006-05-07 12713, 2006
teleGUISE wonders what mean emails he has received lately ... though none ever like what sheppy gets :P
2006-05-07 12726, 2006
nechto13
i meant uniform artists on each track
2006-05-07 12727, 2006
Nyght
nechto13: That's sort of my point... this extends further than soundtrack/classical
2006-05-07 12734, 2006
lauri
Nyght: i recall looking at some of those elton john and tim rice ones, and wondering where that came from
2006-05-07 12746, 2006
lauri
they pair doesnt make that much sense really
2006-05-07 12750, 2006
Nyght
Wolfsong said the problem is it has to be consistent through the database. It's anything but at the moment.
2006-05-07 12706, 2006
Nyght
tim rice-lyrics
2006-05-07 12724, 2006
g0llum
damn you are good :)
2006-05-07 12726, 2006
Shepard
teleGUISE: especially those from me, eh?
2006-05-07 12749, 2006
g0llum wonders why his brain can still remember that crap, but not other things he rather should.
2006-05-07 12756, 2006
Nyght
g0llum: Who was Pirates credited to composer wise?
Shepard: yours to me? or yours that you respond to from the psychotics that mod note them to you?
2006-05-07 12749, 2006
Nyght
the "buy from" link has the liner notes, in entirety, save for that brun performed the harpsichord (or one instrument where they are listed)
2006-05-07 12713, 2006
lauri
i can tell you the auctioneer is the same voice as tony the tiger :)
2006-05-07 12722, 2006
nechto13
it would be so nice if martin's script could seek out all the tracks with the same title and add ars to all of them, hopefully with some sort of quality control by the person running it
2006-05-07 12722, 2006
Shepard
mine to you
2006-05-07 12723, 2006
lauri
(gosh, that was helpful wasnt it :)
2006-05-07 12741, 2006
g0llum
lauri: lol
2006-05-07 12743, 2006
Nyght
LOL the auctioneer shares a lot of other voice ins. All around disney, he's one of the cards, he's the same as the haunted mansion.
2006-05-07 12754, 2006
Nyght
I can give you a lot of disturbing things about the voices.. all performer level. :(
2006-05-07 12757, 2006
lauri
heh
2006-05-07 12704, 2006
g0llum
there's no buy link ^^
2006-05-07 12721, 2006
teleGUISE
Shepard: Oh yours are never mean to me, at least i don't translate it that way. Though now you have me wondering if I need to rethink that :>
2006-05-07 12722, 2006
g0llum
ah... the AR. i see
2006-05-07 12732, 2006
nikki_
sigh. I'm making so many mistakes tonight :(
2006-05-07 12736, 2006
lauri just ordered a copy of the atlantis soundtrack, my daughter loves it
2006-05-07 12737, 2006
Nyght
xavier's voice was the initial voice for the skull over the ride, later to be done by "leer" (I believe) and bnow it's been replaced once again since they digitized.
2006-05-07 12749, 2006
Nyght
yes g0llum
2006-05-07 12749, 2006
lauri
and my first thought was "and i can tell all the right composers to nyght"
2006-05-07 12703, 2006
lauri
except it's james newton howard, and that's hardly a revolutionary secret
2006-05-07 12716, 2006
Nyght
lol you're so generous to me in this nightmare!
2006-05-07 12721, 2006
Nyght thinks she fell down the rabbit hole
2006-05-07 12742, 2006
teleGUISE
lauri: tele finally clicks the link and now see's he's dealing with a real "fruit" :P
2006-05-07 12718, 2006
teleGUISE
a founding fruit at that
2006-05-07 12741, 2006
teleGUISE
Nyght: on a totally different topic did you see that I wasn't crazy about the "abstain" counter being broken
Nyght whistles and looks away from teleGUISE's question.. and then sighs and nods
2006-05-07 12717, 2006
Nyght
yes, I wont do that to Joan. :D
2006-05-07 12721, 2006
lauri
a founding fruit?
2006-05-07 12738, 2006
teleGUISE
isn't that like founding father
2006-05-07 12757, 2006
lauri
i'm not sure :)
2006-05-07 12706, 2006
lauri
you're telling the tale
2006-05-07 12743, 2006
teleGUISE
i'm picking excerpts from the story you wrote ;)
2006-05-07 12707, 2006
nechto13
now the volume part looks like it's part of the album titles
2006-05-07 12740, 2006
lauri
ohhh, i get it now :)
2006-05-07 12708, 2006
teleGUISE
me , nechto or nyght... who you get?
2006-05-07 12736, 2006
teleGUISE
nechto13: alls i see is swiggly ziggly letters ;) .. not sure what you think is wrong...
2006-05-07 12711, 2006
nechto13
teleGUISE: set ff to autodetect language on universal
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Nyght starts to get concerned, cause she could see what nechto13 was complaining about
2006-05-07 12743, 2006
teleGUISE
i believe it's detecting it correct... that still doesn't mean I can read Russian :)
2006-05-07 12748, 2006
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nechto13
teleGUISE: russian would look foreign, but shouldn't look swiggly, although it depends on how much one drinks before looking at it ;)
2006-05-07 12719, 2006
nechto13
anyway, i have a bunch of things to do today. including going to fry's
2006-05-07 12726, 2006
nechto13 will be back much much later
2006-05-07 12735, 2006
Nyght
Eh, I think I'm going to move it to Bruns.. that seems the least questionable of the lot.
2006-05-07 12716, 2006
nechto13
Nyght: it's like you were reading my mind without me having to say anything :)
2006-05-07 12728, 2006
teleGUISE
nechto13: well maybe not the best description for the letter style but it's definitely a 'foreign' one to me ;) ... Yes get your but to fry's you only have 2 more hours!
2006-05-07 12705, 2006
Nyght
it was a stumbling block.. that's why I asked here..
2006-05-07 12729, 2006
lauri
so, in lieu of helping with disney stuff, since i have proven quite hopeless there
2006-05-07 12745, 2006
lauri
i looked up astrid lindgrens stuff, which i intermittently point to her
2006-05-07 12753, 2006
Nyght
Lauri, support and making me laugh does help. ;)
2006-05-07 12756, 2006
teleGUISE
she decides to work on Kevin Wilson
2006-05-07 12704, 2006
teleGUISE
ooops... nope ;)
2006-05-07 12740, 2006
Nyght
enjoy nechto13, don't get too lost amid the technology offerings
2006-05-07 12742, 2006
lauri
and find the pippi longstockings theme credited to ... 43 people, including the infamous black ingvars (A band most famous for doing copious amounts of black metal covers of kids songs :)
2006-05-07 12700, 2006
lauri
(they are pretty hilarious actually, i love their cover of the smurf song)
2006-05-07 12702, 2006
Nyght
LOL eeks!
2006-05-07 12722, 2006
teleGUISE
this weeks Fry's ad was so-so nothing super great or super cheap
2006-05-07 12746, 2006
lauri
maybe i should fix the black ingvars discography, they have a great website
2006-05-07 12757, 2006
teleGUISE
they have a Raptor 150 for $269 but at $1.79 a gig that's no deal :)
2006-05-07 12718, 2006
Nyght misses Fry's
2006-05-07 12709, 2006
teleGUISE
so call up the brothers and tell them you want to run the Colo franchise
