so I've got a quick question about the musicbrainz web services.
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johnnyb
I'm wondering if there is a way for me to make a query to the web services so that I can browse by artists...instead of specifying an artist name.
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johnnyb
like all artists that start with a
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johnnyb
or something like that
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MartinRudat
I imagine only if you're on broadband and patient... from what I've read, anyway...
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johnnyb
I've got a massive connection
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johnnyb
and this would only be for an initial hibernate load for the application I'm building
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MartinRudat should go re-read the spec... it's been updated since I looked at it last.
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johnnyb
but I can't configure the new REST web service to pull back a collection of artists, without specific parameters...
2006-05-21 14114, 2006
johnnyb
the service is very cool though as it is
2006-05-21 14135, 2006
johnnyb
I'm just working on re-indexing with lucene to support fuzzy matching on the artists for those that can't speel so good :-)
2006-05-21 14152, 2006
johnnyb
ironic no? speel -> spell
2006-05-21 14106, 2006
inhouseuk
johnnyb: depending on what you are doing, it might be better to pull the database backups from the ftp server and import them into postgresql
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johnnyb
yeah thats what I was thinking as well
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nikki_
it only takes my slowish computer a couple of hours to do :P
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johnnyb
I just want to be able to keep up to date automatically, without manually having to download the latest backup
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nikki_
replication! :D
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johnnyb
before I found musicbrainz, I was working with freedb, and had it converted to a postgres db, normalized and what not, but some of the data was just garbage.
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nikki_
only some? :)
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johnnyb
well theres a lot of good data, but you've got green day in there spelled like 4+ different way
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johnnyb
uppercase, lowercase, etc
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nikki_
both inhouseuk and I have working replicated servers set up, if you need any help with that
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inhouseuk
just follow the instructions and you can't really go wrong
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johnnyb
I was looking into that, but the problem is, I don't need the whole server
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johnnyb
just the data
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johnnyb
I guess I could just restore the postgres data
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johnnyb
but then I don't get all of the built in indexing and web services, and what not.
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johnnyb
so if the server is replicated, could it autoupdate out of the master server?
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inhouseuk
you don't need to run the http service if you don't want to
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inhouseuk
yes, replication is built into the code
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inhouseuk
it'll pull hourly update packets from the main server and apply them to the local db
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johnnyb
ahh gotcha, well maybe I'll run that on a standalone server, and interface the server data directly via postgres on the replicated server for the new lucene indexes.
johnnyb: yes, that is quite easy. install the server code, but only run the replication stuff. The documentation is reasonable, but if you get stuck give nikki or myself a prod
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johnnyb
okay very cool, I appreciate the help, and I'm sure I'll be back.
2006-05-21 14127, 2006
johnnyb
do you know if anyone has had any experience using lucene with the musicbrainz dataset? outside of the already created python indexes in the server code?
MartinRudat ponders learning how to use the shift key more consistantly...
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Nyght
That is a cover, I can see them not realize the proper name
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nikki_
but then their greatest hits wrote it the other way
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yllona
nyght: ascap or bmi is your friend :)
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Nyght
LOL I should look it up, but I know a decent amount about that one already. ;)
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Nyght
Music by Johnny Mandel Lyrics By Mike Altman
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Joan_W joined the channel
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Joan_W
and it annoys me very much that I never did get to see the very last episode of M.A.S.H.
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yllona
i'd also check composer/arranger credits in imdb for both the movie and TV series, because IIRC the movie amd TV series had slightly diffrent music
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Nyght
And, by "that is a cover" I wasn't meaning, that's a picture of the cover nikki, I was meaning that's a cover of the initial song. I could see where they wouldn't be positive of the name.
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MartinRudat
Joan: even with the number of times the series has be re-aired?
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Joan_W
even then - I always seem to miss the last episode
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Nyght
suicide is painless was a popular song before M.A.S.H. became popular, they chose it because the words seemed to be apropos. (I'll see if I can dig the information up again. I did a pretty little bit of research on it already>)(
long silence while everybody reads the wikipedia page
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yllona
johnny mandel is a rather famous jazz composer, in addition to hi sfilb/YV work ")
2006-05-21 14131, 2006
Joan_W
It does fit the film and tv series very well though
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yllona
*his film /TV work. he also wrote "The shadow of your smile" among others
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Nyght
I could be wrong about it being picked for the show.. but, that was a tidbit from mash heads.. I mean, these people even had the vodka IV drip and were religious like Joan sounds like she was.
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Joan_W
I was - but I have still missed the last episode too many times now - I am fated not to see it
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Joan_W
Yllona - I didn't know he wrote The Shadow of Your Smile - I love Frank Sinatra singing that
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Nyght
I would have to research the musical creator and see when he did it, but the story went that it was more of a carry over from "the day" and they adapted it for the show because of that. (the true mashhead would know best., it was covered on a bonus dvd like thing in the collectors VHS as I recall.)
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Nyght
this was of course, before DVD
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yllona
johnny mandel had reached legendary status long before MASH. he did composing/arranging for Ella & sinatra, worked with Basie, etc
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Joan_W
Having said that, I liked most of everything Sinatra did
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Nyght
Right, and once more, it would more be "when" he did it that would cement if it was created for the show, or if it was carry over
one of the more successful film themes then - everybody recognises it
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yllona
administered under warner bros. which makes sense
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Nyght
yllona, same as IMDB (it was him that had gone into the military, had his music degree from the military etc.. went on to Balliard. I just twisted it about a bit. :D )
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Nyght
Military academy
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Nyght
I was young back then.. say military, it's military to me. :)
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Nyght
After graduating from New York Military Academy, where he had received a band scholarship, he immediately went on the road working in the Catskill Mountains at various resort hotels. He then joined the orchestra of the truly legendary violinist Joe Venuti. As a member of the Henry Jerome Orchestra at Child's Paramount Restaurant in Times Square during 1945, his bandmates included two saxophonists, Leonard Garment and Alan Greenspan, who
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Joan_W
lost you mid sentence beth
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Nyght
anyhooo.. now the original question has long been left. ;) and I've figured out where I got led awry
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Nyght
Eh, it was just the first that was important Joan, it was from the ascap link I had put up there, about Mandel having gone into a military academy and graduating.
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Joan_W
he seems to have worked with just about everybody important in the music industry
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Joan_W
at one time or another
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Nyght
I never was in to M.A.S.H. but my best friends parents were, they were old military and I was something like 13 when I was hanging around them.. so, when we watched the videos about it, and I heard the military academy line.... I just immediately tossed it into "real time" especially with their son having
2006-05-21 14103, 2006
Nyght
just gotten back from his own military duty and such... young, impressional and very off due to that on my part/ ;)
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johnnyb has quit
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rpedro has quit
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Nyght
so I was digging to find out where my misinterpretation had come in.. because what I was seeing said in fact it was my mistake. :D
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nikki_
bwaha! I found a bar of chocolate on the floor.
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nikki_
being messy has its advantages! :)
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Nyght
LOL nikki~!
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Joan_W
I just had a jam (jelly) doughnut and a cup of tea nikki
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Nyght
As long as your floor saw the light of day within the last month. :D
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Joan_W
as long as the chocolate was still wrapped
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nikki_
I keep that corner over there nice and tidy!
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nikki_
it was :)
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Joan_W
the doughnut was so full of jam I had to hold a napkin under it to make sure it did not "splodge"
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Nyght
Sploodge! She uses that term?
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Nyght rolls
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Nyght laughs hysterically
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nikki_
I'm not very familiar with doughnuts, I had one once and was promptly sick :/
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Joan_W
splodge - in yorkshire means to ooze out and drop on your sweater or something like that
2006-05-21 14111, 2006
Joan_W
okay beth - what does splodge mean in the USA
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Nyght
it's too close to our spooge
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Joan_W
?
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yllona loves doughnuts. though not necessarily jello donuts.
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Nyght
and it's like having a school marm suddenly burp or something. Very heart warming. :D
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Joan_W
I like all sorts of doughnuts, but particularly ones filled with raspberry jam
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Joan_W
or apple puree
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Nyght
raspberry jam donuts are the bomb, but I prefer what hostess has done with theirs. They aren't as messy in the slightest.. and still very tasty
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yllona
i prefer custard filled to jelly filled. i can eat my weight in eclairs, for example
