#musicbrainz

freso: i just went through some of your easy ones and had you below 300 how did you sneak back up there

teleGUISE: Lots and lots and lots of ARs. :)

only beg for votes if a) someone is voting no without reason or b) its a crucial error that should be stamped out (rare) or c) to quickly get merges out a the way so one can coontinue to work on artists/albums

ugh... those are not the easy one :()

me?

not me :( because I haz the OLD computær

all three of them?

:( raam

:(

catgroove: your computers is so old it can't take pc133?

well if your in a shipping mood.. you can send me your extra DDR's ;) ... oh were talking pc133's

I dunno, aslk tele

teleGUISE: Exactly. Most of them just sit there until they're expired. But, I'm not really in a rush with the ARs. I don't have any application that can use those for anything (yet), so, yeah. I know they're correct, and as long as people don't begin voting no, I'm content.

hmmm.

ruaok: its pc100 compat so of course 133 will work... he only has 2 slots but his mobo has issues with over 512mb so 1 stick is all he needs/can use

tele: can my computer use pz133 RAM?

*contend(?)

No.

Content

yay

soo. does that mean i can get a ram stick or not?

bedcause I only have 125 ram now :(

i didnt see a bios update to fix that memory limit issue... but then again we're probably better off not trying to get catgroove to flash his bios!

and it is litterally used a99%-100%

128mb? eeeek

catgroove: nope.

yes

:(

HI_Bob, just like cddb and/or freedb is supported in many programs now, MB will be supported more and more as well and ideally replace the other 'alternatives', it just takes time.

ruaok: I'm fine with any amount

127,0 ram it says

By chance, does the MB database support the notion of separate fields for the "proper title/name" vs. the "search/sort name"?

which is really 128 and usually 127 is used

that'll be a 128mb one then

yeah

i n the artistname

nikki_: can you actually use all of them?

yes, but just the artist name

accoridign to that everwhatever prog that tele had me install

hmmm

don't know if there are plans or even a need for track titles

I'm not sure what mobo is in the frankenbox

we are gonna get multipble tracklists per album .. but not tomorrow :)

lol frankenbox

yeah! it's built completely of other people's old parts :)

:o

actually if you have a seperate video card that would help wake up mo's box as well since his is onboard

catgroove: unless you added a seperate one?

I use it for testing, but it only had 64mb or 128mb of ram and was too slow for much playing

noo

I never did nofin!

:

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catgroove, also for sorting/search purposes? I though just for 'displayed on the cover as'

wow with more than 128 ram this machine would be *fast*

pro: I asume that if that was, they'd be searchable as well+

?

true but I was talking about additional track titles purely for search purposes, like with the artist name now

oh crap no agp on mo's board :(

hmm the light is so dark because day has supprisingly ended

That has proven to be a real pain for the DJs at the local radio station. Once the music library is loaded up, and you (hopefully) got all your Hawaiian diacritical marks correct, then the DJs have to know whether it is `Ukulele or Ukulele. One is at the beginning of the alphabet, and the other is at the end. That's what I mean by ALL the applications out there have to be able to cope...

...with the UTF-8 characters by somehow ignoring them.

no agp on mine either :P

pci, that seems familiar

anyway

damn i dont think i have any worthy pci vid cards around anymore... I have tried and true I keep in my test tool box with 2mb on it

HI_Bob, thats an application issue/bug, not MB

imo

now if a excuse me, I hav to turn o n the light and make food, because its getting so dark I cant see my keyboard, and mom hasn't eaten and its my misson to make her do so. bb

yeah, some programs will sort without things like the 'okina, others won't

512mb ram and like a 16mb vid card , mo would think he was turboized

haha

I would

Yes, but it determines whether it is a good thing or a bad thing to hook you library manager to MB when you do your load up and tagging. If you do, and MB gives you good stuff, but then the application that uses the library fumbles it, you're dead.

becauise this machine can be sluggish and down right slow, but it's generally fine

lolnikki

bob: the answer is to add two versions.. for now

HI_Bob: well, it goes the other way, what if someone comes looking for *correct* titles and only finds stuff without any accents because people wanted their applications to have fewer problems?

catgroove is now known as foodgroove

it's much easier to remove accents/replace the 'okina with something else than it is to add accents ;)

Searching needs to be punctuation / special vowel insensitive.

Okay, I need votes for this: http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=5082347 - the system can't find Baltic Crossing before it's been accepted. Hmf.

*our* search already is punctuation insensitive, and should be accent insensitive too when ruaok fixes that bug

Does that mean that if I put a kahako or an umlaut in my search request or not, it will find things in the database which have the same letters with/without the marks?

yes

should do

Perfect.

So are you mounting a campaign to sell this to the world?

yes, we are. :-)

And (BTW) you do this on the fly during a search?

what do you mean?

Please. I don't want to enter 7 different "Baltic Crossing"'s into the system (if I haven't already...).

(on the fly)

I had essentially the same resultant functionality on my old web site by having duplicate artist, album title, and song title fields.

the accent removal, when working right is on the fly.

When user asks to search, I strip all the funny things, and search against the vanilla fields, and then display the proper fields.

freso: the way to workaround the issue you encountered is to first add the artist then do the track change, that's why you cant find it

teleGUISE: Yes. I realised that a little too late. :)

i'd approve it.. but have no clue about the edit.. do you have a quick link just so i can say i verified it?

teleGUISE: Unfortunately, I don't think I do.

well then how do you know it needs to be changed :)

teleGUISE: http://www.folkclubfyn.dk/bandguide/band.html?b...

teleGUISE: I have the disc and is sitting with the cover in front of me?

I guess it depends on how heavy the volume of searching is whether there is a performance issue with comparing any sort of 'a' umlaut, kahako, circonflex, ... against any other sort of 'a' and making the match. (That's what I meant by "on the fly")

teleGUISE: Notice that there's both a disc id and PUIDs for all tracks?

freso: yes i kinda guessed that being i saw you added the release & disc id hence the smiley

you know what we need!

teleGUISE: Anyway, from the above link: "Baltic Crossing er bandet som spiller på Kristian Bugges debutplade, [...]" is loosely translated to "Baltic Crossing is the band that performs on Kristian Bugge's debut album, [...]".

we need a place that one can easily upload a image to MBrainz when discussing an edit and then for copyright purposes gets removed after a set time frame

teleGUISE: Of course, it's not a verification that they're performing on exactly that track - you'll have to take my word for that. :)

teleGUISE: Yeah... and to donate scanners to contributors as well... >_>

i know i believe you.. but .. just so 10 years down the line when im interrogated I can say i verified it

is that something we could do? ru.. aok

tab key? ... i didnt want to actually type it so he was pinged because it wasnt worthy enough to bother him for

oh. I figured you were trying to spell it right this time ;)

hee hee

teleGUISE: Well, I'm afraid I can't let you verify anymore specific than pointing you to a reference that they did perform on Bugge's album. (Also, note that Bugge is a part of the Crossing.)

freso: yea i tried searching via the ean and only found a reference to kelkoo.com but no track listing as of yet found

teleGUISE: Also, feel free to verify my translation with any of the Norwegians about. :p

freso: thats where youll have to ask mo to support your edits cuz thats wayyyyy out of my arena for even trying to guess

be sure to add the label/catalog #/release date & country too

and saying that they performed on the debut album could also mean they were a (feat. artist) not the sole artist

teleGUISE: "Kristian Bugge is/was a member of Baltic Crossing"

teleGUISE: http://folkclubfyn.dk/bandguide/band.html?bid=168 : "Baltic Crossing består af [consists of, ed.]: [...] Kristian Bugge (DK) - violin [...]"

i understand you said that.. that was a late response to your translation comment on why without it showing so

They used to have a bodhránai too, though.

had you entered it correctly from the beginning :) you wouldnt have to worry about a vote on the artist change :P

teleGUISE: How would I have entered it correctly? It's a single artist release, which happens to have "another" artist perform some of the tracks. The alternative would have been to file it under "Various Artists" and then moved it to single artist. Which I'm, admittedly, kind of weary of doing, since it's better to have Kristian Bugge (correctly) listed as the disc artist, than it is to have the disc (incorrectly) listed as a "V

arious Artists" release.

Oh well then.

"The alternative would have been to file it under "Various Artists" and then moved it to single artist." Ding ding ding.

I've done a few like that.

exactly cuz it is a VA but just credited to a SA