Unicode collation is an algorithm to honor sorting in any (any on the duce) variety of languages to be sorted according to "locale" rules
2006-06-28 17957, 2006
catgroove
so? I said it *wasn't*. pay attention!
2006-06-28 17958, 2006
catgroove
:p
2006-06-28 17959, 2006
dmp_panda
crap
2006-06-28 17903, 2006
catgroove
oooh that
2006-06-28 17907, 2006
catgroove
ok now i understand
2006-06-28 17908, 2006
dmp_panda
Freso is faster than me
2006-06-28 17916, 2006
dmp_panda
at givin an url
2006-06-28 17941, 2006
catgroove
well i didn't read it because whenever I ope na wikiurl I'm stuck the next 5 hours reading wikipedia
2006-06-28 17953, 2006
dmp_panda
mm
2006-06-28 17903, 2006
catgroove
as for the thignie, well that would require a locale setting that people could set
2006-06-28 17907, 2006
catgroove
and the coding
2006-06-28 17908, 2006
dmp_panda
so well, I bugged everybody already with that...
2006-06-28 17927, 2006
dmp_panda
of course it requires coding
2006-06-28 17928, 2006
Freso
catgroove: Exactly. If you were to have it earned points, it should've been "Buddy, isn't this Jeopardy?"
2006-06-28 17930, 2006
Freso
;)
2006-06-28 17936, 2006
dmp_panda
but it's not reallyhard
2006-06-28 17938, 2006
dmp_panda
and it rocks
2006-06-28 17941, 2006
dmp_panda
and it helps
2006-06-28 17947, 2006
catgroove
well actually nikki has brought it up ever so rarely, first time before you where here, (but aperantly maybr usign the musicbrainz site)
2006-06-28 17951, 2006
dmp_panda
even if you understand half of it
2006-06-28 17915, 2006
catgroove
I'd really like if æøå sorted the correct way
2006-06-28 17932, 2006
catgroove
and it woud l be groovey if jaoanese stuff sorted by their,, erh, sorty-thingy
2006-06-28 17941, 2006
Freso
dmp_panda: Anyway. I think I believe I know what it is and would be awesome if it could be implemented properly.
2006-06-28 17952, 2006
dmp_panda
geee. On my screen æøå looks like cat food :D
2006-06-28 17909, 2006
Freso is all for more fine grained assignments of language and script
2006-06-28 17918, 2006
dmp_panda
Freso: it's 200 lines long to implement - maximum - !!!!
2006-06-28 17922, 2006
catgroove
but the thing is, you're going to get people that want things to sort according to where the artist ias from, or even skandinavian, moiry, AND korean/chines/japanese signs the way they are sorted
2006-06-28 17928, 2006
Freso
dmp_panda: I know.
2006-06-28 17944, 2006
dmp_panda
catgroove: collation doesn't solves all
2006-06-28 17945, 2006
catgroove
pand? you know the answer to it
2006-06-28 17949, 2006
dmp_panda
just some bits
2006-06-28 17955, 2006
catgroove
'insert patch here'
2006-06-28 17957, 2006
catgroove
:]
2006-06-28 17900, 2006
dmp_panda
:P
2006-06-28 17913, 2006
Freso
dmp_panda: I was involved with LJ's i18n for quite some time, and, eh. Some of the stuff is really out there.
2006-06-28 17917, 2006
catgroove
there is a mailinglist for internationale and unidcode stuffs
2006-06-28 17924, 2006
catgroove
its got one of those letternumber codes
2006-06-28 17928, 2006
catgroove
like l8tn or something
2006-06-28 17928, 2006
Freso
i18n
2006-06-28 17932, 2006
catgroove
yes!
2006-06-28 17933, 2006
dmp_panda
Freso: Oh! :) Interesting
2006-06-28 17941, 2006
Freso
i-nternationali[sz]atio-n
2006-06-28 17948, 2006
catgroove
it's dead, but not dead dead
2006-06-28 17900, 2006
dmp_panda
I really thought you were only some kind of frigo
2006-06-28 17903, 2006
dmp_panda
;)
2006-06-28 17906, 2006
catgroove
ynterbalvbla why there is a 8 I have no idea
2006-06-28 17926, 2006
Freso
catgroove: nternationalsatio is 18 characters.
2006-06-28 17928, 2006
dmp_panda
the number of letters ;)
2006-06-28 17937, 2006
catgroove
so why is it not i18tn then?
2006-06-28 17944, 2006
catgroove
iatten? rofl
2006-06-28 17956, 2006
Freso
canidae: internationalisatiotn?
2006-06-28 17957, 2006
dmp_panda
coz these people has too much time on their hands?
2006-06-28 17911, 2006
catgroove
panda: obvisuly
2006-06-28 17927, 2006
catgroove
freso: you're going nt oping him one of these days and he's going n to be all 'wtf?'
2006-06-28 17929, 2006
Freso
dmp_panda: Anyway. What *is* a 'frigo'? :x
2006-06-28 17935, 2006
dmp_panda
lol
2006-06-28 17939, 2006
catgroove
a freso spelling
2006-06-28 17941, 2006
dmp_panda
mmm...
2006-06-28 17948, 2006
Freso
catgroove: ?
2006-06-28 17901, 2006
dmp_panda
a "fridge" is the closest description :D
2006-06-28 17907, 2006
catgroove
you said 'canidae' not catgroove' again
2006-06-28 17910, 2006
Freso
Very well.
2006-06-28 17914, 2006
catgroove
mr freeze
2006-06-28 17922, 2006
Freso
catgroove: Ack! *grumbles*
2006-06-28 17926, 2006
Freso
(Sorry.)
2006-06-28 17931, 2006
catgroove
:)
2006-06-28 17910, 2006
dmp_panda
so now, really, nikki unplugged router again right?
2006-06-28 17924, 2006
catgroove
she's at school. oxeford no less, leave her alone :p
2006-06-28 17934, 2006
catgroove
I meant to type oxford as oxeford too
2006-06-28 17942, 2006
catgroove
erh.. cause oxen
2006-06-28 17952, 2006
dmp_panda
ho crap. Once I had the occasion to meet a real unicode expert....
2006-06-28 17958, 2006
catgroove waves and babbles like the village idiot that he is
2006-06-28 17959, 2006
Freso
Isn't there, like, a UCA library for PHP which can be used? Do we have to write it ourself.
2006-06-28 17920, 2006
Freso
s/$\./\?/
2006-06-28 17922, 2006
dmp_panda
Freso: what kind of php do you plan to write/use?
2006-06-28 17944, 2006
dmp_panda
if you want crappy newbie stuff, it's easy to find :D
2006-06-28 17918, 2006
Freso
dmp_panda: At the moment? Well, perhaps improving a bit on Drupal's code base and some of the Drupal modules. Perhaps write a module or two of my own.
2006-06-28 17941, 2006
dmp_panda
so you don't need to *find* code, do you? :p
2006-06-28 17944, 2006
Freso
dmp_panda: No. Like, an offical Unicode Consortium sanctioned UCA library.
2006-06-28 17908, 2006
Freso
I'm not saying it's there, I'm asking if it is.
2006-06-28 17911, 2006
dmp_panda
I doubt they do condescend to implement stuff
2006-06-28 17915, 2006
flamingcow
what are you looking for the library to do?
2006-06-28 17939, 2006
dmp_panda
expecially in... potato hypertrophic pyjamas!
2006-06-28 17921, 2006
dmp_panda
sorry flamingcow :P you were about to say something interesting
2006-06-28 17921, 2006
flamingcow
mbstring handles string operations on encoded multi-strings
2006-06-28 17926, 2006
flamingcow
and is built in for most people
2006-06-28 17901, 2006
dmp_panda
although it sucks (just a panda opinion that don't need answers)
2006-06-28 17952, 2006
flamingcow
if you want non-suck, i suggest you find a language other than php :-P
2006-06-28 17900, 2006
flamingcow
by php standards, it's actually rather nice
2006-06-28 17926, 2006
Freso
Yes! Let's switch to Python! :D
2006-06-28 17938, 2006
dmp_panda now pats flamingcow, while on the other hand he write some php socket code to nuke falmingcow box
2006-06-28 17901, 2006
dmp_panda
ho well..
2006-06-28 17912, 2006
dmp_panda
even that I mistook to spell write... :/
2006-06-28 17939, 2006
dmp_panda runs out now!!! phone call!!! see ya people :)